On Fox News: 'Have male bashing ads gone too far?'

[squirrels]

In fact I'm kind of surprised it's taken marketers this long to at least overtly acknowledge that the majority of male-specific products are purchased by women for men. They've known this for decades now, but only recently has it been acceptable to press it as a marketing tool. Now that the social veneer is off, advertisers are comfortable in overtly ridiculing men, safe in the knowledge that it's women who are the primary consumers even of men's products. So long as the message panders to the sense of female superiority, who cares what men think?

Rollo nails it yet again.

When was the last time that you, as a man, went out and bought a particular brand of beer or cereal or underarm deodorant because you saw some clever advertising campaign?

Who buys all the groceries in the typical American family? Who buys the clothes? Most guys I know who are in "serious relationships" just go out and work and come home and "magically" the fridge and the dresser-drawer are stocked.

Advertising is for women.

 

[backbreaker]

Rollo nails it yet again.

When was the last time that you, as a man, went out and bought a particular brand of beer or cereal or underarm deodorant because you saw some clever advertising campaign?

Who buys all the groceries in the typical American family? Who buys the clothes? Most guys I know who are in "serious relationships" just go out and work and come home and "magically" the fridge and the dresser-drawer are stocked.

Advertising is for women.

food and even alcohol yes

clothes, **** no. i'd sleep with ru paul before i let a woman dress me.

 

[jonwon]

Rollo nails it yet again.

When was the last time that you, as a man, went out and bought a particular brand of beer or cereal or underarm deodorant because you saw some clever advertising campaign?

Who buys all the groceries in the typical American family? Who buys the clothes? Most guys I know who are in "serious relationships" just go out and work and come home and "magically" the fridge and the dresser-drawer are stocked.

Advertising is for women.

As a knock on effect, TV is for women too.

 

[squirrels]

food and even alcohol yes

clothes, **** no. i'd sleep with ru paul before i let a woman dress me.

You're not the typical guy, though.

If you, as a male, actively take an interest in your own appearance, you're a step ahead of most.

 

[backbreaker]

lol we need to do that ****. like be in a car and the guy looks down at his **** and looks at her, then looks back down at his **** and she gives him this whatever look then cut to him tossing her ass out the car

 

[JustLurk]

lol we need to do that ****. like be in a car and the guy looks down at his **** and looks at her, then looks back down at his **** and she gives him this whatever look then cut to him tossing her ass out the car

I can guarantee you, if any station has the balls to broadcast that the lot of you will be buried in litigation and public bashing by feminists, "offended men", human rights, and a whole bunch of celebrities. It will be "yet another example" of how "anti-feminist" the US is...

All this even though the ad is exactly the same, only with roles reversed.

 

[backbreaker]

the offended man always gets me.

it's funny because you realize that of the two of you, he's the one worse off because both of you want the exact amet hing. you make no bones about what you want he tries to sweet talk his way and deny his desires to get in her pants

 

[jafyk]

Absolutely!

Most ads are appealing to women...they make the buying decisions.

But, let's not forget that some of these beer companies are appealing to men as well. It goes both ways.

I see your point to a certain degree. Just because a woman saw a commercial of a bud light that she likes and chooses to buy it (let's ssay it were my woman) I wouldn't drink the bud light because one I don't care for beer and what if that's not the brand I like. So then I have to drink it because my girl was home watching tv and decided she likes it therefore I must like it too? I think commercials can work effectively without having to ridicule men. Still if they insist on ridiculing men, while not ridicule women too since we live in "equality" today. I like the coors commercial, that includes both genders in a fun upbeat way. At the end of the day man is the real enemy of man.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I'm not sure why you guys are getting so worked up about this. Advertising is for people who are easily swayed to buy whatever product. One way to persuade somebody is to tell them they're really smart and clever. The easiest way to make a woman feel smart and clever is to put down a man. Just like the bully at school feels good by beating up the weakest kid, by showing a woman next to an extra large AFC makes her feel empowered, and intelligent, and enlightened, so she goes out and buys the product.

From a marketing standpoint, it's always good to try and expand your market. Marketer aren't trying to affect some grand feminist takeover, they're only trying to expand their market share, by whatever means necessary. If the ads didn't work, they wouldn't run them.

You might even say that all these ads that have your collective panties in a bunch work because they make the women feel good, and the the men feel "whatever, I'm still buying brand X."

If you hand over your paycheck to your woman and let her make the buying decisions, don't blame the advertising industry. Blame your vanished spine and balls.

The best way to help out the vast majority of AFC d-bags is to not be one of them, and worry about sh*t that really matters, like expanding your wealth and influence, instead of silly beer commercials.

The hallmark of an AFC-puzzy is whining about the world, and how it shouldn't behave the way it's behaving, and secret feminine conspiracies that threaten to undermine his masculinity, which he thinks SHOULD be respected by others as some imagined birthright.

You create and assert your masculinity to the world, you don't sit back passively and expect it to be acknowledged by beer commercials.

 

[Nutz]

Need confirmation of this? Look no further than the very clever new Old Spice commercials. Very clever, very humorous, but now imagine a sexy, bikini model woman in place of the guy in this commercial saying, "look at your woman, now look at me, does she look like me? sadly no, but could she smell like me? yes,.." Imagine a guy sitting next to his fat GF or wife when something like that came on TV. Imagine the feminine uproar for such an insensitive, sexist ad. There'd be riots in front of the ad agency's offices.

Bingo! That double standard is EXACTLY what Rudov is talking about.

 

[Nutz]

I wonder how people would react if I produced a commercial showing a man throwing a woman out of a speeding car? That would be fvucking hilarious!

I really should produce such a commerical.

I've been saying it for months now we should make a Youtube channel that spoofs the anti-male media by flipping the genders around to point out their bigotry.

 

[Trader]

I'm not sure why you guys are getting so worked up about this. Advertising is for people who are easily swayed to buy whatever product. One way to persuade somebody is to tell them they're really smart and clever. The easiest way to make a woman feel smart and clever is to put down a man. Just like the bully at school feels good by beating up the weakest kid, by showing a woman next to an extra large AFC makes her feel empowered, and intelligent, and enlightened, so she goes out and buys the product.

I just got back from Taiwan, I saw NO commercials where they try to make women feel smart by degrading men.

So why do they have these commercials here but not in Taiwan? You think these commercials would fly in Korea where guys are socially allowed to hit girls to keep her in-line? Yes, I have a friend from Korea who confirmed this.

 

[Zarky]

I think you guys are over-reacting to this and playing "Poor Me / Ain't it Awful." All these ads that make women feel good about themselves in comparison to men are trying to sell women a product. These ads are not "influencing lawmakers" or any such thing.

If you want to see an ad that's clearly made for men, look at the Dos Equis (beer) ads with the "World's Most Interesting Man." These are for men.

Or, try these ads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=235nsrbx558

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH7bjIajc0A

But here's the thing, it's evident that you guys clearly want to play the "Poor Me / Ain't it Awful" game. So any arguments by me or anyone else that society and women aren't out to get you will be quickly forgotten by you.

You get some sort of psychological validation from feeling downtrodden. This is not a masculine way to feel, or a masculine game to play. If you find yourself playing "Ain't it Awful" frequently and you are not getting laid, you need to see a psychiatrist ASAP. I'm serious. Constantly complaining about how society "done ya wrong" is pathological and a sign of a deep-seated illness.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I just got back from Taiwan, I saw NO commercials where they try to make women feel smart by degrading men.

So why do they have these commercials here but not in Taiwan? You think these commercials would fly in Korea where guys are socially allowed to hit girls to keep her in-line? Yes, I have a friend from Korea who confirmed this.

Exactly the point, Korean men don't put up with this crap, nor do women.

There was a commercial aired in Korea a few years ago for the "I'm loving it" campaign for McDonald. The particular commercial was for something to do with "3," I'm not sure what (maybe 300 won for a cheeseburger or something).

they showed a commercial where two girls picked up a guy in order to get pass a toll both that allowed cars with three or more passengers to go through for free. As soon as the two girls passed through, they kicked out the guy, as they didn't need him anymore.

Within a week, due to massive complaints from both men AND women, the commercial was pulled and the commercial re-shot, so they didn't kick the guy out of the car.

The point is that they did in fact try a male bashing commercial, and it didn't fly.

Marketers try whatever works. It is a reflection of society, (a lagging indicator to use a stock term) not the other way around. They try everything under the sun, and keep what works, and get rid of what doesn't.

They aren't some Orwellian mind control conspiracy bent on deflating your imagined ego through some secret feminine conspiracy. They are run by people that make a lot of money from people that have trouble forming their own opinion (which is pretty much everybody).

Instead of wringing your hands over the big bad marketers, who you think are covertly slipping in feminization under every stone, you should be wondering why American men lost their collective balls, or more importantly, if you have lost yours.

these commercials are a reflection of society, not the other way around.

If they upset you, don't get angry at the commercials, look in the mirror.

 

[jonwon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMfFzF4SS8

Look at the comments from KarlSmith00 - total and complete shaming language, no concurent arguments just alot of hot air, flaming and shaming to all posters that don't agree with her (Yes it must be a her or a very pathetic male).

Personnally I hate ****s like this - If you click on her profile it's awash with feminist swill - A True pig trying to shout down anyone who exposes these things - with nothing but shaming tactics - Hence why I believe a large part of this is down to shaming tactics from women, when men don't comply to the bashing the recieved via the TV - Which has morphed into simply a vehicle for women - TV is shi*e especcially in the UK - it is awash with drama's - 4 in one evening totalling 2 hours, almost every day - after that you have fashion shows on how to make fat women feel attractive (how to look good naked) - and other such mindless tat, truley mind numbingly brain destroying mindless shi*e on a constant bases.

No wonder adverts are so anti male, I suspect the main audiance are females anyway.

This is a typical line up one evening TV in the UK:

Hollyoaks
Emmerdale
Eastenders
Emmerdale - Again
Eastenders - Again

How to look good naked

Peter Aundry - some shi* about this pop star women seem to love

Kate Price - Another shi* programme about a serial wedder - Another role model for young women, a fake boobed bimbo with a BF called Read, I suspect because he doesn't know how to.

That's pritty much 4 hours, per day of mindless tat.

Ontop of that, if you actually take a day off mid week - what your greeted with is:

Loose women - on for 1 hour.
Shows like Trisha

And other female oriantated cra*


TV IS FOR WOMEN.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

TV IS FOR WOMEN.

So turn it the fukk off and quit your bellyaching. Plenty of other options for those that care to exert themselves beyond hitting the "on" button with your thumb.

 

[jonwon]

So turn it the fukk off and quit your bellyaching. Plenty of other options for those that care to exert themselves beyond hitting the "on" button with your thumb.

I dont watch TV - I'm simply stating a point.

Why would you think i'd watch the pap from my post?

As you stated far better things to occupy my time with.

Edit - The reason I know that TV is for women, because when you get a GF, it becomes pritty clear.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

You get some sort of psychological validation from feeling downtrodden. This is not a masculine way to feel, or a masculine game to play.

Yawwwwn,...:yawn: male double-standard parrot. You're a whining pussie if you speak up, but you're not a "real Man" if you don't stand up to adversity. Spare us.

 

[Nutz]

I think you guys are over-reacting to this and playing "Poor Me / Ain't it Awful." All these ads that make women feel good about themselves in comparison to men are trying to sell women a product. These ads are not "influencing lawmakers" or any such thing.

If you want to see an ad that's clearly made for men, look at the Dos Equis (beer) ads with the "World's Most Interesting Man." These are for men.

Or, try these ads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=235nsrbx558

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH7bjIajc0A

But here's the thing, it's evident that you guys clearly want to play the "Poor Me / Ain't it Awful" game. So any arguments by me or anyone else that society and women aren't out to get you will be quickly forgotten by you.

You get some sort of psychological validation from feeling downtrodden. This is not a masculine way to feel, or a masculine game to play. If you find yourself playing "Ain't it Awful" frequently and you are not getting laid, you need to see a psychiatrist ASAP. I'm serious. Constantly complaining about how society "done ya wrong" is pathological and a sign of a deep-seated illness.

Blah blah blah "Be a man" blah blah blah "Suck it up". That's what this post amounted to. I refer you to this enlightenment:

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

Pay close attention to Code Blue & Lavender

 

[jonwon]

Blah blah blah "Be a man" blah blah blah "Suck it up". That's what this post amounted to. I refer you to this enlightenment:

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

Pay close attention to Code Blue & Lavender

Charge of Defeatism (Code Maroon)

Discussion: This shaming tactic is akin to the Charge of Irascibility and the Charge of Cowardice in that the accuser attacks the target’s negative or guarded attitude about a situation. However, the focus is not so much on the target’s anger or fear, but on the target’s supposed attitude of resignation. Examples:

“Stop being so negative.”
“You are so cynical.”
“If you refuse to have relationships with women, then you are admitting defeat.”
“C’mon! Men are doers, not quitters.”

Response: The charge of defeatism can be diffused by explaining that one is merely being realistic about a situation. Also, one can point out that asking men to just accept their mistreatment at the hands of women and society is the real attitude that is defeatist. Many men have not lost their resolve; many have lost their patience.

I like this one.

Personnally I don't see what the big deal is if we discuss this stuff, not sure why people get bent out of shape when we choose to discuss it, what's the big deal.