On a side note: I don't feel remorse or guilt; should I?

Secondtimeround

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First off, this is not a spinning plates, sex etc thread but something I'd like some insight into if possible. Cheers guys.

Female best friend of which we have shared and been through a lot together. Yet last couple years all the effort has been on my part (and even back in the early days now that I think about it) to initiate or put any effort in. Heck, every catch up etc I have planned has been turned down for one reason or another: good or bad. I know lately her study load has been hard and she has a family member in hospital on his last breath. Those two reasons for bailing have been used throughout the last year or more. Yet there is no hint of strain or sadness in any replies. Obviously, she sounds fine besides winging a lot. Heck it makes the fact I've never gotten a message or email to say hi, hows things all that more disappointing.

So last night was it, I had it after you can gues what. I told her, I understood she has things and I am not upset but I wasn't going to try anymore so have a good one and good bye.

Then came the barrage of missed calls and messages. More initiated and sent in that last 12 hours than the whole 4 years I've known her. Obviously I have not replied and this is not some PUA thing but rather, I've got simply nothing to say. This was compounded by her significant other then messaging me and in a sense berating me on all this because again with the reasoning; she was going through a tough time. Well, if I'd had that twang of pity and thought about replying, that then sealed the deal. Good bye to this friendship. As you can see, I don't have much of a view of people who rely on others to fight their battles let alone mopers whom with their world falling apart, won't pick up their own pieces. I have tried helping her in the past (but that is another story).

Honestly I'm a pretty simple person, you put an effort; even if it is 1 message every now and then and I'm the mate who'll jump in front of a car for you. Yet if you don't even try (emphasis TRY), then why should I? Even under extreme circumstances when obviously I am not even worth the effort of taking the phone out and typing a message or finding 15min in a week for a chat or coffee.

It's wierd. I'll admit, throughout my life I have been a doormat of some sorts but I'm starting to see a change in me. The old me would have felt guilty and remorse, yet I feel nothing. Honestly, I just don't care.

So I would like some insights here as am I right? Should I be showing even a twinge of compassion here? I ask here because I know all will provide brutally honest replies compared to others whom are engrossed in all tv shows these days that promote an unrealistic portayal of how people, life, friendships, romance etc should be. I need it as to know why I feel conflicted at the moment; almost like a pull between the chump me struggling against the new me who isn't all talk; showing through his actions what he wants, he will do to get and all in all, a man.
 

pinkfl

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Her boyfriend should not have gotten involved. You do not need any sort of random authority figure regulating the friendship.

With that in mind...some people have a hard time keeping in touch. They get busy. They have other people that are priorities. Sometimes...when she is free, she is going to be messaging her boyfriend. Not you. Even her female friends will take a back burner compared to the significant other. I don't think you handled the situation properly. It would have been better to confront her and say "hey...you know that friendships go both ways. You never say hi, you never see how I am doing. And I know you are going through a tough time but I really want to feel like I am important as a friend and not a bother."

Abandoning her without being clear about what was bothering you (or giving her a chance to fix it) is a little unfair. I don't think you should feel guilty, but maybe you should have communicated what was bugging you instead of just dropping her like that without giving her a chance first.

That being said, friendships do work both ways. I had "friends" that never really initiated anything with me. And when I had a rough time...they abandoned me when I would have done anything for them. So I just forgot about them (after giving them a chance to come round...only two out of the six I am talking about did) and cultivated friendships that are much more equal.
 

FortunateSon

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Friendship like any other relationship should be a two-way street, if you feel it's all one way then you have every right to walk away from it and I think most self-respecting will do so.

I don't think you have anything to feel guilty about. You've done the right thing here bro!
 

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Thanks guys. PFL -this is a culmination of years being that guy that got blown off from a friends point of view. I think my message outlined enough and a smart person would be able to put the pieces together. Honestly, I've just got nothing to say to her. Every time I start to write something; nothing.

Now to add on, can I just stay silent? I honestly don't want her in my life no more nor do I care. At the same time, I don't want to say anything because of how woman can turn it against you or how she may twist things. At the same time, this is a troubled girl bringing up her troubled past and stuff now to get me to reply. I am feeling pity but honestly, I don't want to. Can I stay silent? Or will I have to answer in due time?
 

Alvafe

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nope I don't even see why you should care , she sure don't, and why the hell her BF are talking with you? are you his friend too or no? simple put he never cared friendship become astray, maybe if you do a party or something you can invite her to come, but if she don't bother I don't see why you should care.

and using pinkfl point of view nope she should know by now why you won't talk with her again, what is the point? I do ahve a girl like that she like to say i'm her friend, talked tried to talk with her several times and sometimes not even cared to answers now when I did go ghost and stoped trying anything, behold, now she start to talk with me and invite to do something, funny doesn't?
 

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Over the years, you'll find yourself collecting these "friends" that you NEVER interact with, but by Gawd, it's like they never left when you finally do catch up.
 
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