Omega 3 Fats

[Omen]

cold-water fish have the most omega-3 in the edible (non-organ) parts b/c they have a significant fat layer as insulation from the the cold. other fish store a significant part of their reserves in their liver (hence the popularity of cod liver oil). however, all fish have omega 3 fats in them, just in smaller quantities.

This was my question to all on the previous topic we were discussing. Charles Poliquin said to take what 30 or 40g of fish oil, and that's all he said.

I asked people what was wrong with his statement, and what was wrong with it, is that every fish is NOT the same in its content of Omega 3. This is why you cant suggest taking that much as a whole. That doesn't do anyone any good.

I'm not sure how many caught what I was trying to say, but that was it.

Kind of like saying take 30g of protein per day. Every protein is different, and the amino structure is different, and they all have their own place in what they do. Taking 30g of soy protein is not the same as taking 30g of whey.

Same with the fish.

And this is why I figured Charles would have been more careful, and stated the fish fact when he spoke of it on T-Nation. Telling someone to take that much doesn't help anyone. Its like someone eating rice all day long to get 100g of protein in. :nervous:

 

[Heart Break Kid]

All the fish I eat is tuna and sushi (every kind you could imagine). Hmm maybe I should look into mercury...

 

[Throttle]

well, omen, you're more expert than me on supps, but i think 1g of fish oil is typically standardized to 180mg EPA & 120mg DHA.

i'm suspicious of any number thrown out as a nominal amount for someone to take, or even a ratio (even and maybe especially protein/bodyweight ratios). for example, above spes quotes his class as saying "4:1" is a desirable omga 6:3 ratio. why that? truth is, nobody really knows what a proper ratio is for optimal health.

i'll give my advice, which is how i'm approaching it: cut your omega-6s to the bone, then add up how much you're still getting (they're an essential fat anyway) and then balance out w/ an equivalent amount of fish oil. and if anything, over-supplement w/ omega-3 sources for awhile--anybody with a 'western' diet has cell walls full of omega-6s and trans fats that will take a while to fix up.

 

[Throttle]

methyl mercury is a bigger concern as you up the food chain, and some fish are more problematic than others. the EPA puts out a list, and so do some environmental NGOs

there is a variety of tuna that sometimes ends up in cans of light (not white) tuna that is quite low in mercury for some reason, but as far as I can tell there's no way to buy just that type (except maybe in some obscure health food stores).

 

[stronglifts]

cut your omega-6s to the bone

You need cholesterol/saturated fat just as much as omega 3. You know it, just watch out with such sentences for the rest of the group.

Btw, chinese medecine believes in high amount of omega 3. Andrew Gaeddaert (check Amazon) also recommends 30g fish oil a day for skin/digestive problems.

 

[Throttle]

that's why i said cut omega-6s... polyunsaturated fats that aren't omega-3s. i'll grant you that not everyone will read that and realize i didn't mean cut saturated fats or cholesterol.

 

[mrRuckus]

there is a variety of tuna that sometimes ends up in cans of light (not white) tuna that is quite low in mercury for some reason, but as far as I can tell there's no way to buy just that type (except maybe in some obscure health food stores).

I think the reason is that type of tuna in chunk light is young tuna which hasn't had as much time as the other tuna to absorb the metal from the sea.

At least that's how i remember it when i was reading about mercury.

I think tuna is more of a family name of fish rather than one type of fish.



That omega3 skin stuff is true. I get next to no acne anymore since i started taking fish oil regularly.

 

[stronglifts]

That omega3 skin stuff is true. I get next to no acne anymore since i started taking fish oil regularly.

omega 3 is anti-inflammatory for everything. Skin, joints, ...

 

[Omen]

well, omen, you're more expert than me on supps, but i think 1g of fish oil is typically standardized to 180mg EPA & 120mg DHA.

i'm suspicious of any number thrown out as a nominal amount for someone to take, or even a ratio (even and maybe especially protein/bodyweight ratios). for example, above spes quotes his class as saying "4:1" is a desirable omga 6:3 ratio. why that? truth is, nobody really knows what a proper ratio is for optimal health.

i'll give my advice, which is how i'm approaching it: cut your omega-6s to the bone, then add up how much you're still getting (they're an essential fat anyway) and then balance out w/ an equivalent amount of fish oil. and if anything, over-supplement w/ omega-3 sources for awhile--anybody with a 'western' diet has cell walls full of omega-6s and trans fats that will take a while to fix up.

For the most part yes, that's what we usually see on labels, BUT there are many more out there, and in fact here are just a few ratios...

15% EPA 9% DHA
23% DHA
7% DHA
25% EPA 12.5% DHA

If a company creates a formula that resembles breast milks Omega content, they dont use a 18:12 ratio, but instead a 4:1 or 5:1 ratio. This again is to replicate what is in it.

As far as proper health, no, I dont think there is a set number, its only what is suggested, and that is to get so much DHA and EPA.

But if we talk about a desired amount for a pregnant woman like I spoke of, to replicate the Omega content, then an 18:12 is not the best. Again that applies to that part only, and not saying that for people in general, that there is any one best ratio.

 

[shop until I die!]

I bought the omega-3 ultra compound from GNC and I've felt a lot better since I bought it. I find that I have much more energy and overall feel a lot more optimistic.

 

[Bible_Belt]

http://www.sealoil.com/faq.html

 

[spesmilitis]

http://www.sealoil.com/faq.html

The only chemical advantage to seal oil is DPA. But I heard around 30% of EPA is already converted to DPA.

I did meet a guy in another forum who said that his elbow pain didn't stop till he took seal oil.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I ran out of fish oil a month ago and need to get more. I think I have tendon damage in my hand. I thought it was better, but I reaggravated it. Hopefully, some Omega 3 will help. I will ask at the store about the seal oil. The funny part is that other than the fish oil I take, I'm vegetarian. But fvck those seals, I want my hand to get better.