OkCupid women rate 80% of men below average..

[SW15]

With OLD the only edge you have is your looks and she can't gauge you of anything else, so hence a lot of women are going to judge more harshly online than in person. Most guys statistically are not going to cut it just of looks as most men are average looking.

This is true. Swipe apps are mostly looks though sometimes if a man flaunts a lifestyle that shows off some money, that can work on the swipe apps to some level.

Looks > Money on swipe apps

I bring this up because a lot of guys on this site struggle with women cause their only doing OLD, yes in person dating/approaching has got tougher but you have a edge compared to 70%-90% of guys by doing so. Going out every weekend, having a social life online improves your options dramatically

It is a brutal path for most men to approach strangers in real life. It's true in 2024 but it was also true in 2004 and 1994.

Approaching strangers randomly is inefficient for finding dates and finding relationships. Most men are less inclined to do it now. It might be more efficient for the majority to meet women in real life than swiping. However, most men like the idea of sitting at home looking unpresentable and swiping instead of showering and getting dressed to go do real life approaches.

flexing half naked at the gym.

That can work well on the swipe apps for a small subset of men and be hyper efficient even compared to in person methods.

 

[Solomon]

It is a brutal path for most men to approach strangers in real life. It's true in 2024 but it was also true in 2004 and 1994.

Approaching strangers randomly is inefficient for finding dates and finding relationships. Most men are less inclined to do it now. It might be more efficient for the majority to meet women in real life than swiping. However, most men like the idea of sitting at home looking unpresentable and swiping instead of showering and getting dressed to go do real life approaches.

Approaching strangers may be inefficient now but it certainly worked back in 2008-2019 dating before covid was different. I pivoted to building a social circle or ingratiating myself in one cause I learned very early on the hottest girls were always in a social circle. The last decade and half since I've been on this forum I have ingratiated myself in social circles, built them from scratch, merged them etc. I'm talking about various types of social circles college(the hottest frat parties) to millionaire ones not saying it to brag but You're talking about something that took 16 years to do. When I was 24 I didn't have access to the social circle people I do now

What's my point? in life you gotta work for the things you truly want, if they came easy then everyone would have those things or wins. For most men online dating is not efficient because they are not getting matches and dates. IMO a guy would be better of working out at the gym, reading books on the art of seduction, improving his conversational skills, working on his grooming, and approaching women simultaneously and learn from his mistakes. Then sitting at home watching Squid games in his underwear, smoking weed from his momma basement and swiping hoping to get a nut from a cute chick that night

It's not easy I know I'm speaking from experience but it does work if you are willing to bust your ass. If it was easy this site wouldn't exist and every man would have a harem of 10 women. LMFAO

 

[SW15]

IMO a guy would be better of working out at the gym, reading books on the art of seduction, improving his conversational skills, working on his grooming, and approaching women simultaneously and learn from his mistakes. Then sitting at home watching Squid games in his underwear, smoking weed from his momma basement and swiping hoping to get a nut from a cute chick that night

That's the path I have chosen. I have tried the swipe app path at times too and was disappointed in the experience. I tried swipe apps long after I started reading about seduction.

I think a lot of men find it appealing to sit at home and do swiping/texting rather than bust their butts going out into the real world and talking to women.

 

[DJ Novice]

I’ve had success only through OLD. I’m 56 and couldn’t be bothered hitting the ****tail bar scene.

A few girls have shown me the OLD profiles of the guys who have hit them up. I would estimate 85% of them are just woeful in terms of looks, photo choice, bio, opening lines etc. As bad as you think you may appear most of your competition are much worse.

Get a professional photographer to take your photos, dress well, take time to write your profile, show a sense of humour, exude confidence/abundance mentality, don’t display thirst/be overly se*ual initially and you will be ahead of most guys.

The rejection rate will still be high but not as high as it could be.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

A few girls have shown me the OLD profiles of the guys who have hit them up.

Why?