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Danger said:
It all depends on the "type" of robots we are talking about.

Almost certainly there will be yet more engineering jobs created, just for the ever increasing manufacturing requirements.

Think for a moment all of the different jobs that robots could be doing, and each of those will require different programming, wiring, engineering, etc,... to make sure they work properly.

We have a very long way to go before we actually have robots around us doing all of humanity's tasks. And each step along the way will create more jobs of these natures.

They will also create more opportunities for more automation and yet still more jobs.

Robots doing simple chores like screwing lug-nuts are just the first part (which of course create all of the jobs I mention above). The next stage of robots require all sorts of different things, including maintenance requirements, and thus will require different kinds of jobs.
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I don't see the trend now. People choosing social engineering studies over actual engineering. Seems to me the prosperity creates "phony" jobs....sorta welfare. I'm not sure it's gonna change. Even IT courses are more about Excell use than actual IT like bits. People taking the easy way.
 
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Danger said:
What people choose to study, and what jobs are available are two vastly different things. The market has a supply and demand for labor of differing technical skills. No amount of people attending college for one particular degree will increase demand for that particular skillset.

As a second note, be very careful about appyling what is going on today out into infinity.

For those that may not remember,



All of the above are mistaken forecasts based on people extrapolating today out into infinity. My point here is that the bad economy today does not negate th general trend of increasing technical skill requirements from people for an increasingly technical world. This is called "creative destruction". The latest best example being the internet. It is destroying old media as we know it, yet creating new media that we browse everyday on web.

Huge numbers of jobs have been simultaneously destroyed and created by the internet. And we are all the richer because of it.

On the that youtube video posted, that woman jumped to conclusions pretty quickly I believe. Not a very professional person at all.
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Man, if technical skills are way to go majority of women are screwed. They suck even as normal users. :rolleyes:

There's gonna be time, when people won't have to work at all and not becoming a bum. Robots repairing robots, AI doing most of innovation....Oh f@ck, Skynet :)

I share your optimism, Danger, I just wanted to share my frustration that many people are paid very well even-though I (maybe arrogantly ) find their benefit minimal. And they demand even more....remembering proteste, from WS, being gender studies graduate, demanding work for feminist non-profit:rolleyes:
 
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ArcBound said:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2390277,00.asp#fbid=kPW7fzW78XR

This robot is not a perfectionist machine in fact it was a robot made to learn by error and to perform new actions and tasks the robot was never made to do.

And it showed that robots can learn and adapt to new tasks and environments without human guidance.

Right now we are at the point where robots can't surpass our creativity but in the future it is very possible that yes they can.

Also neurons in our body form an intricate circuit that basically controls everything about us. Scientists are also trying to model that same circuit (or parts of it right now) onto robots.
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Robots do not have emotions nor a brain the two things that will always differentiate us from a machine.

Emotions are what the human race draws its creativity for and that is why it can never be mimicked.

Our brain allows us to think freely without any restriction and strike up new and instantaneous thoughts. Now they might be able to create a brain for a robot but they never be able to create emotions.

If we humans can't even understand emotions how do you expect us to design them in robots or how do you even expect a machine to understand that? This isn't to say that our creativity will be enough to stop an eventual matrix happening though. Robots are pretty damn efficient.
 
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Robots do not have emotions nor a brain the two things that will always differentiate us from a machine.

Emotions are what the human race draws its creativity for and that is why it can never be mimicked.

Our brain allows us to think freely without any restriction and strike up new and instantaneous thoughts. Now they might be able to create a brain for a robot but they never be able to create emotions.

If we humans can't even understand emotions how do you expect us to design them in robots or how do you even expect a machine to understand that? This isn't to say that our creativity will be enough to stop an eventual matrix happening though. Robots are pretty damn efficient.
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Hypothetically speaking, artificial neuron networks can be developed. But frankly what would be the point in making a brain, when you have plenty of them.
Specific task oriented artificial "brains" are more likely than general purpose thinking one.
Besides human brain evolves....we can become much smarter by the time we find out how to make brain.

However I guess you could have emotions in artificial brain. You just give it extra feedback, stimulating the right parts....in theory.
 
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