Observations on Dallas' Scene

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After the parade, you walk down greenville to the places where the bars and such are with everyone else, which takes me back to where my car is naturally.
When the parade first started in the late 1970s, there were actually bars in Upper Greenville along the parade route. All those bars disappeared by 2000 and got replaced by retail and a few sit down restaurants. The bars are further down Greenville now.

there is usually a small chance you can get someone if you are at one of the gatherings after the parade and before everyone goes home.
When people go home, some of them are childless urbanites going home to places within walking distance of Greenville Ave.

Judging by the traffic near the parade all day, there are plenty of people who don't live near the parade route who go home to somewhere else in the city or even one of the suburbs.
 

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I went to the parade on saturday. It had promise in the beginning, but the rain inevitably destroyed the entire event. The block party was packed in lower greenville. Lots of people out. You could easily tell the difference in quality of people: the ghetto/ family orientated people were more toward the center of the parade route. The upper greenville area was obviously the more suburban white crowd. Lower greenville was also mostly them, though I saw far more younger and hotter women from the block party and more south. For those who do not know, the block party goes on outside the parade route but along the typical bar areas of that area. Very active. Lots of tits out, too, and loose women.

If it was not for the rain, I could probably had a better time. I also was not aware that the block party happens early in the day. I think next year I'm just going to avoid the parade entirely and focus there. It felt more fun and lively. Everyone there were celebratory without all the ghettoness.

Aside from that, got sick the day later cause I drank little water and ate very little. But drank a lot of alcohol.
 

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The upper greenville area was obviously the more suburban white crowd.
What do you consider Upper Greenville as far as the parade route goes? Lovers through Park Ave? In general, Upper Greenville is considered north of Mockingbird.

Lower greenville was also mostly them, though I saw far more younger and hotter women from the block party and more south. For those who do not know, the block party goes on outside the parade route but along the typical bar areas of that area. Very active. Lots of tits out, too, and loose women.
I didn't know that tits come out for the St. Patrick's Day Parade. Tits come out in Lower Greenville near the bar cluster between Richmond and Ross? I guess that resembles New Orleans during Mardi Gras.

It had promise in the beginning, but the rain inevitably destroyed the entire event. .....If it was not for the rain, I could probably had a better time. I also was not aware that the block party happens early in the day.
Focusing on the block party and private residence parties are the best ways to play it for parade day in Dallas.
 

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Venue Review: White Rock Lake Trail

Alongside The Katy Trail, White Rock Lake Trail is the 2nd viable walking/jogging path in Dallas that is viable for approaching. White Rock has enough foot traffic to be viable.

When a man daygames both Katy and White Rock, he quickly notices that Katy Trail has far more attractive women on it than White Rock. This is because Katy is closer to Downtown and Uptown Dallas with plenty of 20s/30s unmarried women as residents. While White Rock Lake is still centrally located within Dallas, there are fewer unmarried, younger women out at White Rock because White Rok is further away from a lot of apartments with unmarried people. There are some apartments with unmarrieds near White Rock, but there are fewer apartment units closer to White Rock. Most housing near White Rock is single family housing which is usually owned by married couples.

White Rock Lake Trail is a circular 9.6 mile trail around a lake. There are some scenic views around White Rock Lake and the natural scenery is nicer than what you'd see at the Katy. However, there are more early 30s-early 50s women around White Rock Lake who are likely coupled/married.

At both White Rock and Katy, the majority of women will be wearing earbuds/headphones to discourage approaches.

It's more difficult to find some good spots for picking off women for natural looking approaches along the trail, but they exist.

It is possible to get some women from Southern Methodist University (SMU) in groups at White Rock. I've seen it before.

The primary reason to go to White Rock Lake to approach is to find a trail that is less saturated with other daygamers than Katy. The tradeoff for avoiding other daygamers is that there are fewer targets to approach.

There was recently a sewage spill in Plano. Sewage spilled into White Rock Creek, which leads into White Rock Lake.

It likely has reduced crowds for a bit, which affects pickup there to some degree. Katy Trail is the better pickup option anyway, so the overall effect is rather limited.
 

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Venue Review: Klyde Warren Park

Klyde Warren Park is an urban park built above a spur freeway that forms the border around Downtown Dallas. Klyde Warren is a fairly recent development in Dallas, as it opened in 2012.

Klyde Warren has an excellent location on the border between Uptown and Downtown Dallas. Many unmarried people live in apartment complexes that are near Klyde Warren. One would think that would make it a target rich environment. It unfortunately isn't in my experience.

I've been to Klyde Warren during the middle of the day on weekend days many times. Every time that I go to Klyde Warren, I end up disappointed in it. There are often way more children and parents of children at Klyde Warren than one would think. It's not children from the suburbs either. It's children from sketchy Dallas neighborhoods.

There are some interesting food trucks at Klyde Warren, one restaurant/bar in the center of it (local chain Mi Cocina (My Kitchen) ), and a restaurant on the northern edge of it.

There are few approach options in general at Klyde Warren. Perhaps I go at the wrong times. Whenever I go to the Katy Trail (post #274), I see far more approach options.
 

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Eclipse in Dallas

Today is the major solar eclipse & Dallas is in the path of totality.

Dallas hotel rooms all sold out for this event due to its rarity. This is the most packed that Dallas has been since it hosted the Super Bowl in February 2011 or the Final Four in April 2014.

There are a number of large eclipse parties throughout the city scheduled for today. Many of these large eclipse parties are at bars. Some open public spaces like Klyde Warren Park (Post #325) will have their own big eclipse viewing events.

It is doubtful that the eclipse will lead to many seduction opportunities. People will be too occupied with eclipse viewing, especially during the 4 minutes of totality. Females would be in large groups and most at big events will be around their boyfriends, husbands, or a large group of friends.

Traffic around the city will be terrible.
 

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Are you craving sex with a single mom in the Dallas area or maybe you think dating a single mom in Dallas would be a good idea?

There are places to go for that in Metro Dallas. In a metro area of nearly 8 million people, there are places to find single moms.

The Collin County suburbs (Plano, Frisco, McKinney, and Allen) are filled with women with children. Many more of them are married moms but there's a segment of single moms in that area. There are some bars in Plano that tend to feature somewhat more upscale White, divorced single moms in their 40s seeking new penis.

The bars in Plano that tend to feature single moms tend to be concentrated in a 1-2 mile area in the northern part of Plano. These mainly attract Plano and Frisco women. They are located in Shops of Legacy, Legacy West, and Granite Park. Sambuca 360 in the Shops of Legacy is the most notorious bar in Plano for divorced single moms in their 40s seeking new penis. Many of these moms want to feel young again and are seeking younger men. Some younger men have gone up to Sambuca specifically to find sex with these middle aged moms. More of the Sambuca scene is 35-54 divorced parents trying to have sex with each other.

Legacy West and Shops of Legacy have had more childless people move into them in recent years. While Shops of Legacy opened in the early 2000s, Legacy West didn't open until the mid-2010s or so. I'm not up there much but I have seen how it would be possible to do both non-bar and nightlife approaching around those areas.

Garland seems to be a magnet for less affluent single moms. Most of the single moms in Garland are non-White.
 

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Are you craving sex with a single mom in the Dallas area or maybe you think dating a single mom in Dallas would be a good idea?

There are places to go for that in Metro Dallas. In a metro area of nearly 8 million people, there are places to find single moms.

The Collin County suburbs (Plano, Frisco, McKinney, and Allen) are filled with women with children. Many more of them are married moms but there's a segment of single moms in that area. There are some bars in Plano that tend to feature somewhat more upscale White, divorced single moms in their 40s seeking new penis.

The bars in Plano that tend to feature single moms tend to be concentrated in a 1-2 mile area in the northern part of Plano. These mainly attract Plano and Frisco women. They are located in Shops of Legacy, Legacy West, and Granite Park. Sambuca 360 in the Shops of Legacy is the most notorious bar in Plano for divorced single moms in their 40s seeking new penis. Many of these moms want to feel young again and are seeking younger men. Some younger men have gone up to Sambuca specifically to find sex with these middle aged moms. More of the Sambuca scene is 35-54 divorced parents trying to have sex with each other.

Legacy West and Shops of Legacy have had more childless people move into them in recent years. While Shops of Legacy opened in the early 2000s, Legacy West didn't open until the mid-2010s or so. I'm not up there much but I have seen how it would be possible to do both non-bar and nightlife approaching around those areas.

Garland seems to be a magnet for less affluent single moms. Most of the single moms in Garland are non-White.
I'd hang with a single mom to get to their younger daughters.
 

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I'd hang with a single mom to get to their younger daughters.
I like this response a lot. It's a decent idea. I don't see it working out well in practice.

Let's consider a man in his late 30s/early 40s who wants to date an 18-26 year old. He'd have to befriend a single mom around 50-55 years old to make that happen. Is a woman even considered a single mom anymore once her kids are officially adults? The term 'single mom' is used more for women with children under 18 who live at home with them.

A lot of 18-26 year olds do live at home with a parent or parents at least part time. College students are well known for spending summer months at home with their parents. Those who don't attend college or new college graduates are often at living at home more permanently.

I don't think a lot of unmarried moms around age 50 would be psyched to have their late teen/early 20s daughter dating some 30+ man either.

If you wanted to find those moms with young adult daughters, the Collin County suburbs would be the place to look nearest to Dallas. Another option would be to befriend upscale moms in the Park Cities bubble (University and Highland Park) or the Preston Hollow neighborhood of Dallas. Park Cities and Preston Hollow moms are more likely to be married moms but there are some affluent divorced moms in those neighborhoods too. The Park Cities and Preston Hollow are more affluent than Collin County.
 

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Well the reason it works is because there's guys who date the mom then run off with the daughter. I've been in a situation like that before though I was dating the daughter not the single mom. And yet I could tell the mom was jealous of her daughter.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Well the reason it works is because there's guys who date the mom then run off with the daughter. I've been in a situation like that before though I was dating the daughter not the single mom. And yet I could tell the mom was jealous of her daughter.
When you describe that way, I can imagine it playing out like you describe.

I was thinking that being a friend or acquaintance of the mom would not work very well in dating the daughter.
 

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When you describe that way, I can imagine it playing out like you describe.

I was thinking that being a friend or acquaintance of the mom would not work very well in dating the daughter.
That would be quite the porn situation. Especially if they are both seemingly hot.
 

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That would be quite the porn situation. Especially if they are both seemingly hot.
There have been many porn scenes that have been mother-daughter role plays. There's a reason for that sexual fantasy.

Eclipse in Dallas

Today is the major solar eclipse & Dallas is in the path of totality.

There are a number of large eclipse parties throughout the city scheduled for today. Many of these large eclipse parties are at bars. Some open public spaces like Klyde Warren Park (Post #325) will have their own big eclipse viewing events.

It is doubtful that the eclipse will lead to many seduction opportunities. People will be too occupied with eclipse viewing, especially during the 4 minutes of totality. Females would be in large groups and most at big events will be around their boyfriends, husbands, or a large group of friends.
I didn't hear any stories about the April eclipse resulting in seduction opportunities. When I talked to various people around Dallas-Fort Worth about how they spent eclipse day, most were at smaller gatherings. I didn't speak to anyone who went to a bigger eclipse gathering of 100+ people.

I was part of a small gathering at the swimming pool area in my apartment complex. There was not a lot of socialization between apartment residents in the moments leading up to the time of totality.
 

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I live in a house, but if I was at a apartment pool and hunting for some p*ssy, probably the best time to get some quickie. Depending on the demographic. If it was an urban apartment, easy sex due to low class desperation. The higher class it becomes, the harder to pull. Not even a chad could grab a hottie unless it was in a Dallas surbanite setting or downtown. When I was hunting for places to stay at, I saw a lot of semi-hot female neighbors.
 

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apartment pool...The higher class it becomes, the harder to pull.
I have been to a few individual apartment complex pools over the years. These have generally been bougie complex pools near Uptown, Downtown, and other central neighborhoods south of Northwest Highway.

It isn't easy to pull at bougie complex pool parties, but it's probably easier to pull at a bougie complex than at a commercialized pool party.

Dallas has a few bigger commercial pool party locations that try to mimic Miami/Miami Beach and the Las Vegas Strip.

When I'm talking about commercial pool parties, I'm talking about larger pool parties, often with DJs connected to a business (bar/restaurant, hotel) with hundreds of semi-strangers attending. Sure, there may be 2-4 sets of people who know each other. It's like a nightclub type vibe during the day.

 

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Plano ISD is considering closing schools because people are having fewer children.

Plano ISD has lost 7,000 students mainly to graduations and some relocations in the last 10 years.

The Boomers who moved to Plano when it was originally growing in the 1980s-1990s and it was a newer, faster growing suburb all have grown children. In addition, the older Generation X'ers (1965-1974 births) have seen most of their kids graduate in the last 10 years. Empty Nesters in a slightly older suburb in an area that emphasizes newness is going to affect aging schools.

Since the 2000s, Frisco, McKinney, and Allen have been the hotter suburbs than Plano, but Plano was still considered to have good schools.

Celina and Prosper (north of Frisco) are now considered the hot new suburbs.

Couples who form in Central Dallas or move to DFW from out of state often head to these northern suburbs for the school districts.
 

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Frisco is the new Plano. And it makes sense that Plano is turning into a retirement area.
 

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Frisco is the new Plano. And it makes sense that Plano is turning into a retirement area.
Frisco has had ridiculous growth since the 2000s. It is mostly married people up there but there is an apartment complex right next to the minor league ballpark. There might be some unmarried people in that apartment complex.

if I was at a apartment pool and hunting for some p*ssy,
Depending on the apartment building, women are more approachable at these types of pool parties as compared to the bigger commercialized pool parties in the area. The music isn't blasting at a typical apartment party and the ratios are better. I'd recommend focusing on smaller apartment complex parties compared to the big pool parties in the area trying to mimic Miami or Las Vegas. If you have friends in apartments, that's your best way to get to the complex parties. A 250-500+ unit midrise or high rise complex often will have enough people at its pool on a summer afternoon. These are buildings in neighborhoods near Downtown Dallas.
 

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Frisco has had ridiculous growth since the 2000s. It is mostly married people up there but there is an apartment complex right next to the minor league ballpark. There might be some unmarried people in that apartment complex.



Depending on the apartment building, women are more approachable at these types of pool parties as compared to the bigger commercialized pool parties in the area. The music isn't blasting at a typical apartment party and the ratios are better. I'd recommend focusing on smaller apartment complex parties compared to the big pool parties in the area trying to mimic Miami or Las Vegas. If you have friends in apartments, that's your best way to get to the complex parties. A 250-500+ unit midrise or high rise complex often will have enough people at its pool on a summer afternoon. These are buildings in neighborhoods near Downtown Dallas.
How's the situation after that sudden storm we had this morning? Power just coming on finally for me. Lots of knocked down trees but glad that was the extent of the damage around the metroplex.
 

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How's the situation after that sudden storm we had this morning? Power just coming on finally for me. Lots of knocked down trees but glad that was the extent of the damage around the metroplex.
I was without power from early Tuesday morning when the storm happened until late Tuesday afternoon. I kept my refrigerator and freezer closed so I didn't have any food spoilage. I was pleased about that. In addition, having electricity meant that I had air conditioning. Even though it hasn't been very warm in Dallas the last 3-4 days, the temperatures have gotten into the mid 80s Fahrenheit, which is warm enough to have air conditioning help.

I was without home internet service for multiple days. Since I do not have cable television service and use streaming apps for video content, I also didn't have video content to watch on my TV set in addition to no internet on my laptop. I am fortunate to have a Blu-Ray player and some DVDs/Blu-Rays to substitute for my streaming video services for content on my TV set.

I had some internet due to my smartphone. I don't like to do as much on my smartphone. I also think there were cable television outages in addition to the internet outages I mentioned.

I think the service outages (electricity, broadband internet) likely affected the mating environment for the past few days. Everyone's situations were different depending upon which outages they had and the duration of those outages.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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