observation time.............................

[Robert28]

If it's such a small thing, whereas an allowance would be a "large thing", then it should be even easier to not do.

In the end my point is i would rather have my dignity if it so requires me to be celibate, than grasp at pvssy through throwing my dignity away, and that's the difference. We can leave it at that.

Lol you can be as rigid and strict as you want but you’re still going to meet women that will coerce you into borrowing money from. They’ll get it from you somehow, whether it be on a date or flat out asking you for it after grooming you over a period of time. There’s not a guy on here that’s never spent money on women in their life. Women are the ultimate manipulators.

 

[GreatHornedOwl]

A group of women gossiping around a table about men couldn't tell the truth if they were held at gunpoint. Anything I overheard would be totally disregarded.

 

[zekko]

They’ll give you some song and dance “waitresses make crap! 20% is the minimum!” but they won’t leave more than 10-15% when it’s their money

Maybe they're just not good at math?

 

[Robert28]

Maybe they're just not good at math?

Women aren’t good with finances period. I know a girl that makes $70k a year and she spends her money on the stupidest crap you could imagine. She’s forever broke.

 

[derby1]

A group of women gossiping around a table about men couldn't tell the truth if they were held at gunpoint. Anything I overheard would be totally disregarded.

not to me , it proves the good guy doesnt take up mental space

 

[GreatHornedOwl]

How do you know it's not a good guy they're portraying to be a jerk?

 

[derby1]

How do you know it's not a good guy they're portraying to be a jerk?

It doesnt matter, the point is they do not talk about good guys, I have 600 women on my social media and Ive seen one woman max, do an appreciation post for her good man.

They write paragraphs upon paragraphs of guys who mess them about

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The other night I went for a meal with my dad, we were the only guys in the restaurant and were vastly outnumbered by girl groups.

I overheard most womens conversations

1) All they talk about is men, they have very little passions or hobbies apart from drinking and men
2) Not one woman was talking about the good guy who took her to the beach, They were all talking about the guys who messed them around.

1000 red pills I re-swallowed that night, just to keep myself from getting rusty

Was out with a girl last night.

Plate through pandemic and then some. Behind her three rqchet girls obnoxiously loud. Boisterous and raging they can't find the ring. Also hating on ethnic men. The girl I was with could tell I was amused by their misfortune and disgusted by their behavior.

Never mind btc. Diversify portfolio should include cat food. The crash is coming fellas. I got my troll meme tee and popcorn. Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

It doesnt matter, the point is they do not talk about good guys, I have 600 women on my social media and Ive seen one woman max, do an appreciation post for her good man.

They write paragraphs upon paragraphs of guys who mess them about

+1

Modern women make up the smp dumpster fire. Ran through. got more slams than wwf. Offer no value. Useless.

I'm really going to enjoy the decline. I highly recommend fellas scoop Aaron Clareys book. Apply the following perspective in pickup and game.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Easy there chief. No one is talking about giving women money like an allowance. We are talking about paying for dinner. Good luck dating if you think you can get by with never paying for dinner.

I do coffee. Especially when pickup. Lowest price. Maybe Starbucks. Nothing extravagant. No fine dining or something elaborate with a random or prospect. Regular I am more interested and open with festivities once they earned it and went through the ringer. If she was around before and after lock down no weirdness or shenanigans, I have no problem doing a patio and getting out.

 

[Robert28]

I do coffee. Especially when pickup. Lowest price. Maybe Starbucks. Nothing extravagant. No fine dining or something elaborate with a random or prospect. Regular I am more interested and open with festivities once they earned it and went through the ringer. If she was around before and after lock down no weirdness or shenanigans, I have no problem doing a patio and getting out.

I have a go-to place I use if I do a dinner date, a local sports bar that has good food and is very reasonable. I don’t always do dinner first but if I have to, that’s where we are going. If they put up a front about a sports bar I have a backup Mexican place that’s cheap lol They ain’t even getting outback for months

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I have a go-to place I use if I do a dinner date, a local sports bar that has good food and is very reasonable. I don’t always do dinner first but if I have to, that’s where we are going. If they put up a front about a sports bar I have a backup Mexican place that’s cheap lol They ain’t even getting outback for months

Rob mate, I was idealistic as a kid. I didn't know about city girls or hypergamy. Modern women are retarded. They showed that game. It's borderline retarded for men to pay for dates or wait. I do coffee or drinks. That's my intro. No foodie dates for random or prospects. After I hit it, I am less a stickler about spending. I like fine dining and posh Vacas but I am not funding a skanks lifestyle.

One of my mates is that young blood HENRY (High earner not yet rich). On trajectory to be rich by 35 assuming he doesn't goof. He used to spend. Got screwed on foodie dates. Would show up in the Audi or Benz to impress from Go! Got no play. I told him to switch it up. Gets bare matches OLD doesn't approach. The presupposition is she's hot girl summer, city girls etc. Till proven otherwise. Burn rate was off the charts. Now if he pays, it's high end sugar babies. Drinks. No fine dining. Not my style. His outcomes improved drastically by not doing dinners or paying.

I got routine venues, bars, cafes, and fine dining spots. Off rip their social status or perceived preselection. It's a brilliant idea. Have spots but similar to a sales funnel I run girls through the process. Push I pull. She pulls I push. I don't make it easy. MM was wrong about 7hrs but genius with bouncing location. Assumed familiarity. creates a yes ladder. compliance is the game.