Objective: The Gladiator Scenario!

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Yo Troops!

Front and center! I got a potential situation here. I’d like to get the opinions of all you other Sosuave Army Officers about a huge AMOG (alpha male other guy) event that MAY be in my future.

Briefing Session:

Here’s the deal. I’m interested in this chick, we’ll call her “Chocolate Bunny” or “CB” for short. Why? Because she looks like a dark-skinned, voluptuous Playboy model to me. She’s a professional woman with 2 kids, and currently living with her mom temporarily due to a snag in her home buying plans. UPDATE: She recently just closed on her brand new house a couple of weeks ago, so she’s in the process of moving NOW.

She’s a shy chick (so she says) who has only been in 3 LTRs her whole life. Anyway, I met CB almost 2 months ago, she says she has been out of an LTR for about 3 months. Well, we had two dates: One where we met at a restaurant and the other one over over at my house, things were going good. Good conversation, she followed my lead, responded well to my sexual innuendos, and recriprocated any kino I started. But when I tried to Kiss-close her, she turned her head (I know…RED FLAG).

Well the next day, she called and reiterated how much she enjoyed the date.

END OF STORY.

Since then, I’ve been getting some calls and callbacks, some text messages, and a ton of emails. I’d try to setup dates and she’d be too busy. SHE’D try to set up dates and something would ALWAYS come up. Her reasons would usually sound plausible----sick child, stranded teenaged child, house hunting and buying woes, other obligations, etc..

Anyway, I’ve been E-macking her as best as I can. Recently, over the phone and over email she “admitted” to being excited when she was around me, AND being intrigued at how I can read her mind and call her on her excuses. But she says she’s scared of “getting close” to someone again, so she hides behind all of her busy-ness.

But all this is neither here nor there to me----just wanted to give you guys a snapshot of WHO this babe is.

Here’s what I understand:

The bottom line is----she has LOW INTEREST in me. I know this. My life has went on. And other girls have CLIMBED on. lol But honestly, they are not in the same league of attractiveness as THIS one. So obviously, my search continues. But, I’d also like to avoid officially NEXTing Chocolate Bunny altogether, if I can pull it off.

Current Status Report:

I’ve gone guerilla on her azz. For the past 2 weeks I have cut off all communications. No calls, no texts, no emails. She has a birthday on August 30th. Previously she told me she was having a big party. This chick MAY be shy, but I know she has A LOT of guys out to fukk her. I’ve SEEN guys trying to hit on her after I stepped away from the table when I was out with her.

And Horny Busters are just like roaches: If you’ve seen 2 or 3, then there’s definitely MORE where THEY came from!!! lol


The Gladiator Scenario:

Having said that, there is a strong possibility that this bytch might actually have the nerve to call out-of-the-blue and invite me to come to her party---not as her “date”, but as her “guest”.

If this happens, it will be like a Princess asking a Gladiator to step into the arena to fight for her. But the gladiator has NO IDEA who, what, or how many foes he’s up against. As you can see, in The Gladiator Scenario, the chick (Princess) holds ALL the cards. SHE is the PRIZE.

If the scenario plays out HER way, she’ll have all of us guys fighting against each other to be the last man standing. And the last man standing will PROBABLY be the one to get her.

The odds are against me on this one, troops. I’m a soldier who likes to fight wars of MY OWN choosing. To turn down her invitation, to me, would look weak. And I run the risk of HELPING create a vacuum for someone else to DEFINITELY seal the deal (IF it’s not already, unbeknownst to me).

But should this Gladiator Scenario arise. I DO have a plan, but I want to hear what you guys’ think. How would YOU play this?

What strategy would YOU use to fight in The Gladiator Scenario in order to win the Princess?




And please:

Save the old knee-jerk “Oneitis” and “NEXT her” comments this time. It doesn’t apply here. My intention is for this to be an AMOG strategy brainstorming session.



Peace...one day.
 
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She’s a professional woman with 2 kids, and currently living with her mom temporarily due to a snag in her home buying plans



This in itself is a dealbreaker to me. Why would you seem weak if you do not go to her birthday party? If she was into you she would have come across like a gangbuster. If she made it clear that she wanted you there with other possibilites, then I would most certainly go!!! If more HBs are going to be there, go and mack on them and see how Chocolate Bunny reacts. Center of attention no longer exists for her. This will suck for her and be reall good for you.
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
What strategy would YOU use to fight in The Gladiator Scenario in order to win the Princess?
This ALWAYS works: Up Up Up Up A B C Down Down X Y Z Start
 

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ER!C L!VE said:
This ALWAYS works: Up Up Up Up A B C Down Down X Y Z Start
:crackup: :crackup: :up: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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Here's an idea: show up with a hot woman. Who cares about the other guys, and who cares about her? Show up at the party to have fun. If she invites you, ask if you could "bring a friend". It would go along well with you not contacting her for a couple weeks. It would fire up her interest and it wouldn't matter how many guys are there... she'll be chasing you.

AMOG? Gladiator? Come on, now. You've got this chick on a pedestal. She should be fighting for you!
 

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Gladiator Scenario??? come on now...

First off you haven't even been invited to her B-day party so even thinking about this so called scenario is a little bit silly.

Secondly, imagining some event where all these desperate guys are jumping over one another to get at some beautiful girl is a little whacked too.

It's her birthday man. There will most likely be plenty of family and close friends there. In most AMOG situations the goal is to get the other guy to back off by out alpha-ing him. This usually involves humiliation, fear, or just isolating the girl. If you try any of these things you risk looking like the REAL chump especially at HER B-day party.

I'm sure there WILL be other "interested" guys there but those guys are out there EVERY SINGLE DAY of this beautiful girl's life!

Your "strategy" should be no different than how you live your life and interact with ALL women.

Show them that you are the most fun, interesting, and exciting guy around. Whether she or any other woman cares to notice this should make no difference to you. If it does matter to you, then you AREN'T the most fun, interesting, and exciting guy. You're desperate and she can smell it a mile away.
 

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Vulpine said:
Here's an idea: show up with a hot woman. Who cares about the other guys, and who cares about her? Show up at the party to have fun. If she invites you, ask if you could "bring a friend". It would go along well with you not contacting her for a couple weeks. It would fire up her interest and it wouldn't matter how many guys are there... she'll be chasing you.

AMOG? Gladiator? Come on, now. You've got this chick on a pedestal. She should be fighting for you!
THIS is the way to go. You're a guest? Bring a date. You're not going to make much headway at that birthday, anyhow. This is a long-term play.
 

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Save the old knee-jerk “Oneitis” and “NEXT her” comments this time. It doesn’t apply here.
Really?

I think Vulpine is on the right track given your stuck on this one. Maybe another option is go in and try nail one of her HB friends. Her friends will be partying, no family around and if you can get one of them to take off with you early your "PRINCESS" might be left wondering about you and her GF. Plus you'll actually get pvssy out of the deal.

If you aren't sure you can pull either of those, I wouldn't even bother going.

Oh yeah, not to rain on your parade but, has she even actually invited you? If not, I can't imagine she's gonna want you there after blowing her off for two weeks.

But she says she’s scared of “getting close” to someone again, so she hides behind all of her busy-ness.
I think the translation of this ********/Giberish has the answer your looking for.
 

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DING DING DING!!!!! We have a winner! Slickster shows why he is the man!!! With thousands of posts to back it up. I would go with what this cat has given. Great Job Slickster. BTW, VULPINE your advice is on point too!!!
 

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I know you want to believe otherwise (I would too), but your mind has put this chick on the pedestal any which way you paint it with your vocabulary. You're screwed. :up:
 

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LOL


Thanks for the input Troops!


But calm down. lol

Never leap to the conclusion that a discussion on strategy is anything MORE than that. I'm here to learn and better myself as a Sosuave Soldier, to be prepared to handle ANY situation. This is just one of MANY cases in point.

Yeah, calling it The Gladiator Scenario is just way of having a little fun by blowing it up to EPIC proportions. I DO that, by the way. That’s the writer in me. No apologies.

Overblown? Yes.

Entertaining? I hope. That’s always part of my intentions for posting.

Appropriate analogy? Yes----because it shines a light on the probable mentality of a chick who WOULD invite all her “spinning plates” to one party. Again, I posted this to invite a discussion on the topic. And I’m pleased that people are speaking on it.

And for the record, yeah, I HAVE cut off all contact with this chick for the past 2 weeks, simply because I already KNOW her interest level is LOW---her excuses or reasons not withstanding. We all know that the last thing you should do is be AVAILABLE for a babe whom you suspect may only want to milk you for your attention.

So, Chocolate Bunny HAS in effect, volunteered to be a potential practice dummy on a little maneuver I’m getting ready to run. LOL

This post really came about as a result of a discussion I had yesterday with a female player that I work with. She was telling me about a similar “game” that she ran recently.

She told me that last month; she threw herself a party and invited ALL the guys she knew who were interested in her. At the party, she was doing her little social butterfly thing---never spending too much time with ONE, but flirting with them all.

She told me that:

Some guys got upset and it showed. Others left early and she thought of them as wimps. Others stayed and tried to “obviously” AMOG each other, and she thought they were funny (“Dance for me, little monkey!!! lol). And a few others stayed the whole night and tried to follow her around and keep up with her----C0ckblocking each other.

When I asked her who she ended up with, she said “NOBODY”. But she said she did have FUN watching them jockeying for position though. She thought less of them ALL. Hah! The bored “princess” wins...and I say-----FUKKK THAT.

So then I realized that the possibility exists in the NEAR FUTURE, that I could be in the same “scenario”, hence, this Post. lol

So I’ve been thinking about it, and preparing myself for anything. Because whether it’s with THIS chick, or some other one, this exact same situation COULD arise for me. I AM NOT a natural DJ yet. I have advanced as far as I have through mental, physical, and emotional conditioning.

I’ll post my take on The Gladiator Scenario a little later. But I continue to invite further discussion, because I am really enjoying everybody's different responses and the rationales behind them. ;-)




March On!
 
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I'm just curious... does The Gladiator want to sleep with The Princess or have a relationship with The Princess? ;)
 

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Yo blueguy,


My mindset these days is to always try to sleep with them first (so they'll KNOW I'm not their Mutha Fukkin' FRIEND!), then if there's potential for something else to develop----time, compatibility, and the consistency of the babe's behavior will determine WHAT ELSE could be acheived.

No matter who the woman is, no matter what I might WANT her to be, I never forget that it's HOW she behaves towards ME that determines whether or not I should consider placing her in a "preferred" position.

Until then, they are all targets. Some FINER than others, but STILL targets.

Human targets.


I don't know about anybody else, but I tend to run my MACK MISSIONS this way:

1. Meet a girl, keep an open mind, and give her the benefit of the doubt.

2. Be the MAN/DJ to constantly boost her interest level and get to know her.

3. After an undetermined amount of exposures to the chick has ocurred, then decide if she is quality enough to merit DJing HER into an exclusive relationship.

But now, if during ANY step of this process I see signs that she is purposely playing games, using totally selfish tactics, or being insincere in her actions toward me----then the BATTLE begins, Troops.

Then I declare WAR.

Then I take NO prisoners.

Then I FIGHT to win.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether I get the girl INTO my life or I get the girl OUT of my life.

Either way, I win.

I am committed.

I will not stop.

I will not lose.

Either way, I have learned.

Either way, I have emerged victorious.

And as you all know by now...





...my victories, of course...are UNLIMITED.






Peace...one day.
 

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Alright Victory, I think I see where you're coming from. You don't need this chick, don't really care what happens, but would like to see if you can beat her at her own game, correct? You are in it purely for the sake of engaging in battle with fierce competition to test your own tactical abilities.

You already seem aware that this is an absolute waste of your time, and I agree the whole "invite her harem of beta males to a party" scenario is pure speculation at this point, but if presented with this challenging mission, and you insist on taking it up, these three objectives must be completed:

1. show NO interest
2. show you have options of similar or better quality
3. be visible on her radar, but don't participate in the AMOG games she wants

Several good tactics have been laid out, and they're all correct. To glue them all together, we can say that your primary objective is to become the center of attention yourself, from a frame of non-competition. In other words, you want to steal the spotlight from her, and it cannot be detected that you are doing this intentionally. The only way I can think of to do this is to bring your own party to the party. This mission is too tough to take on alone, you'll need a whole company behind you. Your party must include at least 2 attractive females, and also some guys who have no interest in participating in CB's party ("i'm just here for the bud light"). Bring your own lawn chairs, food, piñata, some "wet games" (water balloons, slip & slide, etc), music, and booze, and set up camp in the corner of her yard away from her party. If you can get more people to 'defect' to your party because it looks like it's more fun, you will achieve victory! CB will be forced to either shut down your good time and look like a party pooper in front of everyone, or she'll be forced to participate. If you really want to drop an A-hole bomb, bring a friend of yours who also has a birthday, so you can co-celebrate.

Again, I don't know what would possess you to take on this mission, but if you do, the bring your own party to the party maneuver would completely weaken your target's position.
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
she threw herself a party and invited ALL the guys she knew who were interested in her. At the party, she was doing her little social butterfly thing---never spending too much time with ONE, but flirting with them all.
Oh, wow. There is no speculation here for me... I've been to one of these parties. Wow - I had no idea it was intentional... damn women and their games.

Ok, let me tell you what happened and you tell me whether it was DJ or not.

When I got to the party, the HB host gave me the cordial "Hi. Welcome. Put your coat over there." type generic response. Very cold and very unlike her. Instantly I knew something was foul: either she is in 'host mode', or she has something cooking. As I got to "partying", I noticed that she was jumping from one guy to another and hadn't gotten around to visiting with me yet. "WTF?" is what I think.

She was working on the third guy and I was getting bored waiting for my turn, so I started chatting with the women at the party-"screw her". I started to chat with every woman there except her.

As the night went on, I totally forgot about the host because I was working on two new options. Towards the end of the night, I had my hooks in a HB that I just met and we were planning on leaving together. On our way out, the host stopped me...

HBhost: "HEY! You guys leaving?!"
V: "Yep."
HBhost: "You didn't talk to me all night!"
V: "You were busy entertaining your guests."
HBhost: "I'm sorry, I totally ignored you."
V: "Hey, no prob. I had a good time."
HBhost: "Ok. Good. Uh, I'll call you tomorrow, alright?"
V: "Sure. G'night." *ushers HB out, reaches in pocket and fiddles with phone number of 2nd option*

Back then, I had no idea what I was doing. Funny. Wow. Jeez, I just thought of 3 more parties that went very similarly... wow.

:shaking head in dismay:
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Gunwitch method.

If she really is going to be throwing one of those 'look at me, I have so many guys who want me' parties, the last thing she will expect is a guy who is just straightforward and confidently outright sexual. It's at her house, and she wants to get it on her birthday right? No mind games, no tricks, no crap that she can see straight through. Just go for the kill, a little rapport, then full on sexuality and confidence and lead her up to her bedroom when you sense she is really wanting it. She'll want it because if she is as hot as you say, she is probably used to guys putting on an act and will wonder what's so special about you and why you're so sexually confident. But she will resist obviously at certain points... so make the ho say no. She wants it.

Or if she's not dirty enough to do it in her house in the middle of a party, then I guess you'd have to do some of the other stuff up there.
 

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Dude...I won't say the "oneitis" nor "next her" stuff. I know you don't care about that. You just want to phuck her.

I think you have tried DJ stuff. And she is playing her game.

Well...she has her chance to have a DJ. She choose (as a single mother of two) to play her little game because of her looks.

Now...she might have to deal with the consequences and instead of dealing with a DJ...she would have to deal with a PLAYER.

Yep...that would be my approach.

And how would I behave in the party? Confident. I would be my COOL self too. The one that all the other men would be more than happy to talk with...do to my coolness. There are ways of doing that. And of course, from time to time...I would simply wink at her and smile. Then continue to do MY thing.

Here is the TRICKY part...it would have to look "masculine" and "cool" to the eyes of the other men...while at the same time "cucky" to HER eyes. ;)
 

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WOW...I just read this:

She told me that last month; she threw herself a party and invited ALL the guys she knew who were interested in her. At the party, she was doing her little social butterfly thing---never spending too much time with ONE, but flirting with them all. ..

...When I asked her who she ended up with, she said “NOBODY”. But she said she did have FUN watching them jockeying for position though. She thought less of them ALL. Hah! The bored “princess” wins...and I say-----FUKKK THAT.
I would still do my thing as described (get other men's respect)...and then if any of the HB in the party shows an interest...talk with that HB. In fact, I might end up with another HB.

I am NOT a guinea pig for any woman. And NOW that you know this little game of her...next time you two go in a date with her and she turns her face around...be straight to the point: "Hey...are we going to phuck or not?" I mean...not that direct...but you get the point.
 

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I didn't get far, first the nickname of "Chocolate Bunny" is funny, but reeks of pedestal placing.

Secondly, you're thinking, strategizing, asking for advice on how to get a single mom of TWO who lives at HOME?

F-ck that! YOU'RE the prize not her, even if these AFCs are clamouring over her at her stupid birthday party. Sh-t man, get a hold of yourself, date some women without kids and use her as a backup plan.

No way should you be strategizing in how to get a single mommy with two kids; she should be pursuing you and lucky you even looked in her direction.

Gladiator scenario? What the heck is that? All I know is prize mentality and it's you, not some single mommy living at home.

Forest for the trees ...
 
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