Objective: Define The Worth Of A Woman

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops!



A few things have been on my mind as I lay here motionless in the tall grass of Memphis, TN. I'm here in full camofluage gear, peering at the enemy thru the infra-red laser scope of my high-powered rifle.

But unlike Elmer Fudd, I'm not hunting "WABBIT". No, I'm hunting "WOMEN".
A quality woman, that is...

All is quiet on the Mid-South Front, as I move closer and closer to my target who is a hundred miles away. I crawl forward one inch at a time----every HOUR.

So since it looks like I'll be here for awhile, I thought I'd fire off this communique to you guys back @ headquarters in the Sosuave Army of Soldiers.

Much has been said recently about what makes a woman A WOMAN OF VALUE. I have heard the term "Market Value" used in reference to women lately. And although I've heard it before in other briefing sessions, THIS TIME it stuck in my brain---and words kept repeating over and over again in my mind in the form of questions.

Is a woman more valuable for different things in different cultures? Is what makes a woman valuable different for different races? Is what makes a woman valuable dependent on the stage or station of the man who is "hunting" her?

What makes a woman valuable to a man? Is a woman with a job valuable? Is a woman with a higher paying job more, or LESS valuable to a man? Is a smarter woman more valuable to a man of lesser education, or is she a threat?

Is a woman with NO children more valuable to a man who WANTS children? Is a woman WITH children of more value to a man than one who is childless but has a Biiitchy attitude? Is a physically "perfect" woman with a high interest level but NO intelligence valuable to an intellectual man? Is a an "average" looking woman whose WILDLY sexual of more valuable to a man than a Hot Babe Level 10 whose only MILDLY sexual?

Whew! The questions could go on and on, but you get the point. But as I prepare to crawl thru this grass one more inch closer to my target, I can boil all those questions down into one that I'll ask TWICE. lol:


When it comes to adding value to YOUR life, what determines a Woman's Worth?

How do you PERSONALLY define a Woman's Market Value?





Peace...one day.

 

[drmeathead]

1. her interest
2. looks
3. non-smoker
4. no cats
4.5 trust
5. financial situation
6. intelligence
7. good genes
8. class

oh man i forgot trust...THE reason i dumped my ex. i guess i will never learn.

after 3 are things i consider for LTR

 

[Nighthawk]

1.Hot (otherwise forget it)
2.Fun (Somone who can make me laugh as well as the other way around.)
3.Intelligent (Can't date a tard)
4.Trustworthy (essential for LTRs)
5. Worships me like a God
6. F*cks like a wh*re

 

[joekerr31]

a woman of value is the same as a man of value.

a woman of value is a woman who knows herself, knows her strengths and weaknesses, and has matured to the point where she realizes that life is about giving yet at the same time not taking any sh*t.

oh, and if shes hot all the better.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Besides all of the subjective attraction qualities, I won't consider a woman for a LTR unless she has integrity, is giving and is flexible. Without those things she's just another short term playtoy.

 

[Vulpine]

Determining worth of a woman:

Let all your buddies bang your gf and then ask them, "So, guys, how much do you think you'd pay for that?"

(sorry, couldn't resisit)

Ok, VU, since I pushed a button, I'll give my breakdown. There are two values, one is "greater market value". Greater market value, as I see it, is the average desirability of a woman by men in general.

Then, of course, there would be "niche market value". This would be the desireability to a specific cross-section of men.

A divorced 29 y.o. woman with 3 kids would have less "greater market value" to men - on average. However take a cross-section of the men, single 38 y.o. men with 3 kids of their own, and the "niche market value" is greatly higher.

Now, to be fair, I'll answer how I, in my own niche market, establish a woman's worth:

1. Is she in a similar position in her life?
a. no kids
b. healthy
c. stable (emotionally mature)
d. realistic; attainable goals

2. If I woke up next to her, would I freak out?
3. When she speaks, do I start checking corners for a mouse caught in a trap? (is she irritating to talk to)
4. Who IS she?. (character: outlook, attitudes, morals, values, etc.)

Four areas, for me.

Money, similar interests, similar tastes... these things don't concern me. What people do and like are subject to change, as are financial situations. Even people's personalities change in accordance with their surroundings. People come and go, jobs come and go, and personalities continuously change, like the weather. Hell, even a person's sense of humor changes. Character, on the other hand, is fairly static.

It's tough to judge character, though. Most dating situations don't last long enough to get a good average to make a fair judgement. No, women flake out or do something ridiculous that disqualifies them long before their character can be assessed. Though not very practical, I would say that you would have to be with someone a year (through all the seasons) to truely know who they are.

Sounds bleak? Hey, call me eccentric. We all develop "an eye" our own "high value niche market woman" through repeated exposure. Through constant assessment of the market, we learn the indicators. Like a hunter learning the behavior of their prey, like a soldier learning the habits of the enemy, and like a butcher knowing quality meat from bad meat, we learn our own markets.

Yikes! Let me close the door... it's mighty windy in here.

 

[jonwon]

Clean Shaven

 

[Phyzzle]

Ideally, she should she should look like a model, but be unaware of it.

She should never drink or party, but she shouldn't mind if I do.

She should be a tiger in the sack who knows how to please, but also a virgin.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops...



Some good replies on this one so far. But it's interesting that a lot of people here at Sosuave speak from BOTH sides of their mouth. We SAY we want certain things in a woman, but when we get it, it's suddenly NOT what we wanted after all. lol

I have realized that I have traces of this kind of bullshyt programming still inside me as well. I've tracked my own growth over the last year and am pleased with the progress I've made SO FAR. My mission is to recognize this internal enemy, this self-sabotage(?), and explode it from my inner constitution.

This is a dangerous mission. Not for the timid, and not for those obsessed with overdosing on their own testosterone. But I fear the VAST majority of guys here who haven't weighed in on this post or any posts LIKE this are unwilling to TAKE IT THERE.

We all know who we/they are.

One example is when guys post threads asking for advice on how to "get" a chick because she's hands down, the absolute GREATEST chick ever! And when we all chip in with SIX PAGES of posts to help him out, he either NEVER responds, or we find out later on that it was all for nothing.

Why?

Because that SAME guy has already started a whole OTHER post about how he's NOW over this chick and is NOW totally into another one. What the fukk changed? Why did she lose her "value" all of a sudden? Could it be because when some of us list the values we want in a woman, we're really just speaking our own version of WOMAN-ESE?

Come on Sosuave Army, drop the act and keep it REAL. Is some of the shyt we claim we value in a woman just polite, politically correct bullshyt, OR do we really believe it?

Another example of the kind of guys who remain silent on posts like these are the guys who talk alot of shyt about how a woman has to have ONE particular quality (for instance, she has to be Sexually Adventurous), yet they'll turn right around and then disqualify the chick for having the exact SAME quality that they were attracted to her for in the first place:

"I'm gonna NEXT her guys, cuz I can't trust her cause she's TOO damn Sexually Freaky." lol

What the hell is this? WOMAN-ESE IN PANTS? Not actually KNOWING what you want? Why does the word "NEUROTIC" come to mind whenever I read those posts?

And yet another example of guys who don't usually post on threads like these are the kinds of guys who are the strangest of all. Y'all know who they are. They're the guys who are quick as hell to tell other posters to NEXT chicks for the most ridiculous of reasons.

Did the chick commit a "love crime" like cheating on a guy, disrespecting him, or selfishly withholding important behaviors towards the guy that she KNOWS would make him happy? NO. Some of us here are KNOWN for NEXTING chicks because they ONLY have 9 good qualities out of 10.

That's right Troops. Some of here can stare at a woman who is damn near ideal, but still somehow find the ONE thing about her that is NOT perfect. And when that happens, her SUDDENLY lame ass is immediately NEXTED.lol

And the killing joke is that alot of guys who subscribe to the philosophy of the QUICK DRAW NEXT are in LDRs, LTRs, or even MARRIED.

Which to me begs the question: If this is YOUR philosophy, and if you believe a woman's Market Value does a shockingly fast nosedive for the smallest of reasons, why do some of you guys want a woman in the first place? To have kids? To generate more income to share expenses? Were you trapped into it? WTF??? What was the value that made you choose or keep her? Let's hear some REAL TALK about this GODDAM it...

I fear that a lot of us are LYING to ourselves. Maybe we do it consciously or maybe we do it subconsciously. But many of us still do it. I believe you can sometimes really tell what a guy's REAL opinion about something is by what he advises OTHERS to do in similar situations.
I'm at a point in MY life where I'm still trying to decide whether having an EXCLUSIVE woman in my life is of great enough value to ME.

Right now, I'm caught somewhere between having an interest in sexual fufillment and deciding if that's satisfying enough to balance out some other things that I desire----and if I've realisicly found something valuable enough to merit choosing constant companionship.

So come on all you other guys. Especially you guys who've already taken the Long Term Relationship or Marriage plunge.

Some of us here are still on the road to one day arriving at where you already ARE. So help us out.

What is the worth of your woman to you? What made you choose HER?



Peace...one day.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Alright, time to cut the crap. After 10 years of marriage I'll tell you what the priority list should realistically be.

1. Her looks (and her self-committment to maintaining them)
2. Her sexual compatibility
3. Her self-image
4. Her family and their history
5. Her integrity
6. Her attitude towards children
7. Where she actually is at her stage of life
8. Her degree of cleanliness

Anyone not putting Looks and Sexual Compatibility at the top of their prerequisites is selling you something. I'm sure that'll seem "shallow" or superficial to guys who're trying to identify with women, but it's these things that will have the single greatest impact on your personal satisfaction with your LTR or marriage.

 

[Vulpine]

My bad, I left those off as the top two because I assumed that was kind of a "given". (looks was #2 on my list... but really does belong at the top, along with "good in the sack")

You want the "shallow" version? Check it:

Who I'd like to meet:
A woman: 5'4", past-the-shoulder length black hair, green eyes, weighs less than me, swears more than me, can wear my shoes (or owns her own hiking boots), left-handed, can cook better than me, can beat me at Scrabble, drinks ****tails AND beer, doesn't complain about squatting in the woods, no kids, never married, no diseases, postive, pices (maybe a virgo), works during the day, non-vegetarian, puts the seat and lid down on the toilet, with impeccable hygeine and a good, laid-back attitude... awww... don't feel bad! There is always hair dye and colored contacts if you aren't measuring up.

...if I managed to find a chick that fit the above description, eventually she'd look pretty hot in the mind's eye. Plus, I could teach her to rock in the sack. Oh, the shoes comment... I wear a 6 1/2W shoe, so it's not far fetched. Both my FBs wear my shoes.