TheMonkeyKing
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Much like for my 1000th post, I draw a few summaries and conclusions for 2000(+1), with view to taking time out from the forum again, maybe for a few months, maybe longer this time.
SoSuave, at least the main forum, has become a mainstay of women-hating betas, clearly woefully inexperienced in the field, bent on outsourcing responsibility for their own situations, usually to the 'evil women'; the hallmark or the perennial loser / low-medium value male.
As such, being a member, especially a young or inexperienced member, is a poisoned chalice, likely to render the victim, literally a victim of 'the state of the marketplace' or the 'declining quality of women'. Quite honestly, it's pathetic, coming from people calling themselves 'men'.
Hating on the entire species of women is the ultimate emotional reaction. The exact opposite of what women want in a man. A supplicating white knight has more social nous than the woman-loathing emotard. At least he's trying to play the game.
And this is the ultimate failing of MGTOWs, MRAs the world over - their 'hatred' and discontent is still emotion, and still gives women power. They don't understand that there are factors well within their own control that got them in to and perpetuate their own situations.
I will round of by summarising a few messages that I have been hammering home recently, maybe they'll finally permeate some of the thicker skulls. Maybe not. Whatever.
Emotionality
A man's emotionality, his experience and expression of emotion, should result from something he has striven for. As I joked with BigNeil yesterday, Tom Brady winning the SuperBowl is an example of something he has striven for. Marrying Gisele Bunchen is simply a by-product of that success, and therefore not something he strives for. The SuperBowl happens once a year; he probably can meet supermodels every week of his life if he so chooses.
The emos among us will decry this assumption; "This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. He won the SuperBowl, of course he's got a supermodel wife". But that's the exact point. He didn't win the SuperBowl because he was married to a supermodel. He strove to win the SuperBowl (i.e. his real passion), therefore he married a supermodel.
So, my question being why pay so much emotion in to women - i.e. something you shouldn't be striving for. It's not a question of not caring. It's a question of caring in the right way, to an appropriate level. And that, friends, is no one else's responsibility but your own.
[As a brief aside, emotards really need to get a grip on how the gender war, like most other war, is enabled by the media]
The value of (most) women
The next question I have for the emotards is, why do you care about 'the marketplace' and the 'general value' of women? Why do you care if you get flaked on by a 7, or a 9.5? Why do you care if you GF of 6 months leaves you for another dude? They've done you a favour, by proving their own lack of value. You think if Gisele ditches Tom, he's not going to just go and find himself a newer, shinier model the very next day? This is the emotional level you men need to be at when it come to women.
Of course this is going to be the norm, because most women are not worth it, long term. That has never changed, and never will. What emotards call a decline in female quality, I personally view as an incline of male standards. Trouble is, emotard men especially love black and white rules, and their emotions disable their rational observation of the most important; the rule of exception.
You think Tom Brady gives a flying fck about the 'value of women or state of the marketplace in general'? No, of course not. He married to Gisele. Why would he. The point being, within his own frame of reference (albeit apex alpha), he has his apex female who has stayed by his side (as far as we know) for 8 years and given him two offspring.
Now of course, the emotards will denounce this again; "Of course Gisele (no woman) won't leave the apex alpha that is Tom Brady.... Channing Tatum, Brad Pitt, something something something......".
Dudes who draw metaphors and comparison to these A-listers do make me laugh. Dudes, get real. You're not Tom Brady nor Channing Tatum. And you're not going to be hooking up with the likes of Gisele any time soon. Optimise your own worth, but be real. Until you're a multi millionaire with the body of a professional athlete, best remain realistic about your own market value.
Which leads me nicely on to.....
Top Trump Scoring
(Average) Men's honesty about their own value is lacking. In a huge human population of billions, men and women are both more dispensable, especially in the middling ranks of the value market. If you're a 7, you're more commonplace than an 8 or a 9. Sorry to hurt your feelfeels yet again, but that's the way it is. The answer; proliferate your own value in some way, preferably many. That's not the fault of women, it's natural selection.
The only way to guarantee loyalty is if your own score card significantly outweighs her own in some respect. Otherwise, she's fair game for another cad, of equal or greater value. Like it or lump it, that's the law of the jungle.
Screening
I've written a thread recently and hate doing work more than once:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/do-you-even-screen.242194/
Lastly, just bang
In this day and age, monogamy is less a priority than Disney and Hollywood dictate. Emotard MGTOWs etc strike me as being jealous in part. And not necessarily jealous of other men; but actually women, who they view as having more sexual freedom.
Such visceral hatred is rarely borne from rejection, rather envy. Total psychological projection.
Why the fck am I seeing 25 year old guys herein getting wound up by some sltty girl who won't be in a LTR with them? Just bang. A lot of the time, that's all they want anyway. If you don't want the casual sex, throw that energy in to something else until such time as some bird passes screening. But please, whatever you do, do not get emotional about something you should not be striving for. As a young man, or even an older man in a lot of cases, if you're striving for monogamy, or companionship or acceptance, you either have your priorities screwed, or you have a hormonal imbalance.
Anyway lads. All the best. I'm out for a while. It all gets a bit tedious after a while, when the same old crybaby nonsense far outweighs the success stories. Tells a story itself really, about the general value of the forum members themselves.
Will drop by again before the year is out with some field reports, and see if the atmosphere is a bit more productive.
SoSuave, at least the main forum, has become a mainstay of women-hating betas, clearly woefully inexperienced in the field, bent on outsourcing responsibility for their own situations, usually to the 'evil women'; the hallmark or the perennial loser / low-medium value male.
As such, being a member, especially a young or inexperienced member, is a poisoned chalice, likely to render the victim, literally a victim of 'the state of the marketplace' or the 'declining quality of women'. Quite honestly, it's pathetic, coming from people calling themselves 'men'.
Hating on the entire species of women is the ultimate emotional reaction. The exact opposite of what women want in a man. A supplicating white knight has more social nous than the woman-loathing emotard. At least he's trying to play the game.
And this is the ultimate failing of MGTOWs, MRAs the world over - their 'hatred' and discontent is still emotion, and still gives women power. They don't understand that there are factors well within their own control that got them in to and perpetuate their own situations.
I will round of by summarising a few messages that I have been hammering home recently, maybe they'll finally permeate some of the thicker skulls. Maybe not. Whatever.
Emotionality
A man's emotionality, his experience and expression of emotion, should result from something he has striven for. As I joked with BigNeil yesterday, Tom Brady winning the SuperBowl is an example of something he has striven for. Marrying Gisele Bunchen is simply a by-product of that success, and therefore not something he strives for. The SuperBowl happens once a year; he probably can meet supermodels every week of his life if he so chooses.
The emos among us will decry this assumption; "This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. He won the SuperBowl, of course he's got a supermodel wife". But that's the exact point. He didn't win the SuperBowl because he was married to a supermodel. He strove to win the SuperBowl (i.e. his real passion), therefore he married a supermodel.
So, my question being why pay so much emotion in to women - i.e. something you shouldn't be striving for. It's not a question of not caring. It's a question of caring in the right way, to an appropriate level. And that, friends, is no one else's responsibility but your own.
[As a brief aside, emotards really need to get a grip on how the gender war, like most other war, is enabled by the media]
The value of (most) women
The next question I have for the emotards is, why do you care about 'the marketplace' and the 'general value' of women? Why do you care if you get flaked on by a 7, or a 9.5? Why do you care if you GF of 6 months leaves you for another dude? They've done you a favour, by proving their own lack of value. You think if Gisele ditches Tom, he's not going to just go and find himself a newer, shinier model the very next day? This is the emotional level you men need to be at when it come to women.
Of course this is going to be the norm, because most women are not worth it, long term. That has never changed, and never will. What emotards call a decline in female quality, I personally view as an incline of male standards. Trouble is, emotard men especially love black and white rules, and their emotions disable their rational observation of the most important; the rule of exception.
You think Tom Brady gives a flying fck about the 'value of women or state of the marketplace in general'? No, of course not. He married to Gisele. Why would he. The point being, within his own frame of reference (albeit apex alpha), he has his apex female who has stayed by his side (as far as we know) for 8 years and given him two offspring.
Now of course, the emotards will denounce this again; "Of course Gisele (no woman) won't leave the apex alpha that is Tom Brady.... Channing Tatum, Brad Pitt, something something something......".
Dudes who draw metaphors and comparison to these A-listers do make me laugh. Dudes, get real. You're not Tom Brady nor Channing Tatum. And you're not going to be hooking up with the likes of Gisele any time soon. Optimise your own worth, but be real. Until you're a multi millionaire with the body of a professional athlete, best remain realistic about your own market value.
Which leads me nicely on to.....
Top Trump Scoring
(Average) Men's honesty about their own value is lacking. In a huge human population of billions, men and women are both more dispensable, especially in the middling ranks of the value market. If you're a 7, you're more commonplace than an 8 or a 9. Sorry to hurt your feelfeels yet again, but that's the way it is. The answer; proliferate your own value in some way, preferably many. That's not the fault of women, it's natural selection.
The only way to guarantee loyalty is if your own score card significantly outweighs her own in some respect. Otherwise, she's fair game for another cad, of equal or greater value. Like it or lump it, that's the law of the jungle.
Screening
I've written a thread recently and hate doing work more than once:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/do-you-even-screen.242194/
Lastly, just bang
In this day and age, monogamy is less a priority than Disney and Hollywood dictate. Emotard MGTOWs etc strike me as being jealous in part. And not necessarily jealous of other men; but actually women, who they view as having more sexual freedom.
Such visceral hatred is rarely borne from rejection, rather envy. Total psychological projection.
Why the fck am I seeing 25 year old guys herein getting wound up by some sltty girl who won't be in a LTR with them? Just bang. A lot of the time, that's all they want anyway. If you don't want the casual sex, throw that energy in to something else until such time as some bird passes screening. But please, whatever you do, do not get emotional about something you should not be striving for. As a young man, or even an older man in a lot of cases, if you're striving for monogamy, or companionship or acceptance, you either have your priorities screwed, or you have a hormonal imbalance.
Anyway lads. All the best. I'm out for a while. It all gets a bit tedious after a while, when the same old crybaby nonsense far outweighs the success stories. Tells a story itself really, about the general value of the forum members themselves.
Will drop by again before the year is out with some field reports, and see if the atmosphere is a bit more productive.
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