NPD and his BPDexgf

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As the title says I am a dNPD trying to break free from my BPDex. The problem is the dance is so damn addicting. Most nons dont get that this kinda hard wired in my brain. And due to my parental structure growing up its all i have to go off of.:crazy:

Little background on me and my BPDexgf. We dated for a 1 1/2 years. I knew from the beginning that something wasnt right with her. Call it my inner Nstincts.(get it! I come with jokes!):crackup: Anyways your usual list of red flags to name a few with in the first month:

-Never went out on a proper first date and i literally ended up moving in with her after our first meet up. (Yeah colossal red flag i know i was homeless though!)
-Came on way to strong and let me know her whole life story within a week. (Including being raped by her alcoholic coke head bikergang member father.)
-Told me she loved me in 5 days.
-Had an episode where she sat in the closet and cried to her on the phone sister for hours.
-Then another where she tried was assaulting me but i ended up pinning her against the wall by her throat to which she smiled a sinister smile.(Told me later she liked this and wanted me to do it during sex.)
-Nursed me back to health after being sick and demanded i do the same.
-Had a bunch of letters from an "ex"(on and off 5 years) in prison i discovered under her bed. Along with many other drawings and pictures she showed me of him.(He had her name tattooed on him twice along with her pic ala' day of the dead style)
-Quotations around ex because she lied and broke up with him on the phone to which she laughed and was totally heartless about.
-Worked at hot topic the whole suicide girl look(piercings only a small tattoo)
-Showed me scars all over her legs from cutting.
-Talked badly about all her exs except one.
-Depressed,anxious,and sad then happy,bubbly,and cheerful.
-Ex heroin addict who still uses many other drugs.
The List goes on.. but you get the gist.

So back to my story. We lived together at my parents house after she got evicted from her apartment due to her neglectful pathologically lying boyfriend crazy mother didnt help pay the rent and moved in with bf.(Knew him from hs suspect it was a recycle.) Cheated on me 3 times(that i know of) physically. Many more times emotionally. She was my first (I waited till i was 19 "thought she was the one".) and we had sex within the first 3 months. Wouldve been sooner due to her history. But she mirrored my needing to wait and painted herself not very sexual only having 5 partners(Lie) and not having had sex for a year and a half(Yea right). Instead projected this all unto her sister as the ***** she looked down upon. Her sister receptively is a hoe(suspected HPD/BPD hybrid) cheated on her husband god knows how many times stole his life savings screwing all manner of men while blowing all his money on drugs.(The AFC chump took her back after this i might add.) It was just the way she took disdain in it like "how dare she"...right. Did the same thing with her sister and abortions so it makes me wonder since she was all gung-hoe!(more jokes) about it when we had a few scares.

She got kicked out of our house in March of this year after my own BPD mother and her got into an epic blood battle. Basically mom was sick of BPD not helping out around the house along with our many insesent late night fights and her need to get drunk and act a fool. Set in BPDex abndonment fears as she saw us as her "surrogate family"'. We still dated and were even in the process of moving in. The day i signed the lease that she promised to help pay she needs a "break".(BPD speak for i wanna sleep around and not feel guilty). Tells me this in the car i have a mental lapse we spun out in the highway and i dont hear from BPD for a few days after she freaks out and have what i suspect was a flashback. Kept saying "I feel too much, I feel too much".

Fast forward to devalution she push pulls me for another month during this "break". Catch her in the car with the new guy and my friend witnesses this. We drive out 45 min to her moms see her car park go home then comeback an hour later shes gone. I call her she answers lies lies lies. More cheating and then eventually a talk of "just being friends" to which i tell her its all or nothing. She agrees to keep dating. A week later ive had enough with her flightiness and all the evidence built up with her guy so i dumped her. Yet she convinces me to be friends.(Dumb dumb dumb*ss decision)

She strings me along for another few weeks and i finally have had enough with her blowing me off so she says she needs space. We cut off all communication. This works for about two months then the current bf triggers abandonment fears with going on vacation. She leaves a note at my door/unblocks me from fb and sends me the same message as the note. I bite and text her. This initiates her somehow coming over to my apartment she cuddles and kisses me. She basically doesnt leave my side for the next week after this. Calls off work even wants to quit(lack of impulse control) and have me take care of her. I tell her no and that we need to see how things go first. Wonderful moments and horrible moments. My taking her back was arrogance thinking since i knew the disorder i could tame it. At the end of the week i end up at my rents dropped off shes all cold and distant after increasing fighting and likely using me until she had the replacement in her grasp. She still claims were dating for a 2 more weeks and barely texts me needing "space". I confront her at her house as she wont see me in person. The most bullsh*t talk ever and we break up for the second time.

I get an STD from sleeping with her unprotected after her "claiming she hadnt slept with anyone but me(dumb dumb dumbass decision #2)*que facepalm*. I text her reluctantly to inform her of the STD. She gives me a bunch of sketchy explanations. Catch her in lies and i get my proof she gave it to me. Somehow we text again a few weeks later. Then another random one about her gpa who she didnt give a sh*t about dieing.(just wanted attention and validation) I give her my condolences. No more no less. She keeps finding all these excuses to randomly contact. It leads to more and more texting. And enter a few months later of attempted mindf*ckery and you have where im at now. Notice how i say attempted because id push pull her back throughout but it felt to never get me anywhere as i wanted to f*ck her again.
(Note: she was extremely nice this whole time/flirty and would initiate contact and even hang outs but ultimately flake.)

I went NC a little over two weeks ago after she crossed the line in sending pics of us as a couple casually as if it was funny or some sh*t. So the sadistic barbie doll has attempted 3 times in the past week to get a hold of me all of which i ignored. The last being "Okay im deleting your phone number. bye."

What im hoping to achieve from this thread:

1.I feel like the last text was "bait". I dont feel like i got off that easy?
2.Any ideas on the interpretation of the last text minus it just being bait?
3.Should i expect her showing up at my house/possible stalking since i just disappeared?
4.Does it seem like i was in her "fan club" and how does one get out? Eventually after detaching more id like to give things another shot as i had control in the relationship but ultimately lost it after her moving out to which my narcissistic tactics didnt work as well with her not being in close proximity.
5.Do you think she avoided hangouts due to the above control^ i exerted over her?
6.Anymore information on the fan club and the general layout of bpd orbiters(exs ONS "friends") and formation in a BPDs world would be appreciated.
7.Any tips/tricks on how to ensnare her with NC and general manipulation tactics to gain the upperhand/establish dominance again on her?(alotted time of NC,etc.)
8.I do not want to hear run away. I get her condition and im privy to the destruction it causes but i think with detachment I can better use my NPD laiden skills to reassess the situation to my advantage. Ive learned from my mistakes and atm i abandoned her and ignored her so im winning. Every time i play her game i get better im just stuck with the getting her to meet me part. So i came here for player class education.

Thanks DJs and sorry for the long*ss thread. :rockon:
 

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-Worked at hot topic the whole suicide girl look

ha, my bpd girl actually sent pics in to that web site at one point. They wanted her to be a suicide girl, but she was too lazy to pursue it.

Do you mind sharing what STD she gave you? That seems kinda important to me.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply BB. Ive read alot of your guidance on here and im interested to hear your take.

Haha nice man! My other ex BPD did as well and shes app one atm. Although i strongly suspect she was too lazy as well!

Well i took a heroic dose of anitbiotics during testing so it came back inconclusive but from the symptoms the doc suspected chlamydia or gonorrhea.(Note:I also contracted a yeast infection from her as well pre break up twds the end)
 

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Good, anything that antibiotics will clear up is very minor. I'm glad to hear that.

If you want to be with her, you need to be the guy she's cheating with, and not the guy she's cheating on. Let her have a relationship with whoever she wants. She has a need to push away the men she loves, and keep them on the border. But if you're too far out, then she'll need to pull you back in, often with sex. The best you're ever going to do with a bpd girl is to keep her as a mistress. She only wants you when she can't fully have you.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Good, anything that antibiotics will clear up is very minor. I'm glad to hear that.

If you want to be with her, you need to be the guy she's cheating with, and not the guy she's cheating on. Let her have a relationship with whoever she wants. She has a need to push away the men she loves, and keep them on the border. But if you're too far out, then she'll need to pull you back in, often with sex. The best you're ever going to do with a bpd girl is to keep her as a mistress. She only wants you when she can't fully have you.
For sure. Anything else and you can guarantee that id have dropped her for good.

That makes alot of sense. So i need to be more sexual when texting her i supposse. I guess i kinda screwed up there but im learning. Do you think it was a good move going NC after she was trying to pull since she wasnt giving me what i wanted or did i go to far?

Also any advice on her saying what she said last and do you think she means it? And if so should i renintiate by replying since its been 3 days or let her and play the waiting game? (since i pulled away and set in her abandonment fears.)

And do bpds respond better to being nice or bieng an *sshole. Or a mix of both? And jealousy does that work?
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Noticed that. Every time I'd go NC with my BPD ex she'd attempt to reel be back. It was sort of "I don't want to be with you...but don't leave me". So bizarre.
 

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GS750 said:
Noticed that. Every time I'd go NC with my BPD ex she'd attempt to reel be back. It was sort of "I don't want to be with you...but don't leave me". So bizarre.
Right?! Its seemingly frustrating because im stuck at the point of not getting sex or facetime(which i need to game her) and relegated to bs interactions. So i went NC.

Did your ex ever say anything like what mine stated during NC where she announced something along the lines of leaving yet still contacted you later on?
 

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Also any advice on her saying what she said last and do you think she means it? And if so should i renintiate by replying since its been 3 days or let her and play the waiting game?

I would text her and say your phone was messing up, you just saw those texts. Then spend an evening texting with her. The next day just go ghost for a day or two, wait for her to blow up your phone, and repeat the process. She'll think you have a girl with you when you're not responding. You want to alternate intense closeness with acting like you don't know she exists.

However, once you have established yourself as the guy she cheats on her men with, at that point you do the opposite. Don't contact her unless she contacts you. But be available when she does.
 

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Solid advice thanks BB. :up:

Just to clarify are you saying send it now or wait till i know shes free?

Also i was going to go with a subtle variation of i was on vacation and left my phone on the charger due to the timespan as its been a few tries on her end since 2 weeks of NC. Or do you think thatd be less effective?
 

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Wounded_Warrior said:
Right?! Its seemingly frustrating because im stuck at the point of not getting sex or facetime(which i need to game her) and relegated to bs interactions. So i went NC.

Did your ex ever say anything like what mine stated during NC where she announced something along the lines of leaving yet still contacted you later on?
Yes. We'd split up, and I basically told her no more contact, I dont do the friends with exes thing. She'd agree to it, but sure enough 2 weeks later she'd start texting again. I went ghost though, blocked her number because I got tired of the push/pull crap. Maybe you have the patience to deal with a girl like that, but I got fed up. BPD's are so draining. Maybe your tolerance for BS is higher than mine, but they don't seem to want to let you walk out of their life completely. :rolleyes: So yeah, no matter what she says, she'll reach out sooner or later when she's bored/lonely/depressed/mad at her current bf/whateverthefvck.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Its not so much patience its just as an NPD i find the game fun. I can get very impatient and feel like punishing her if i perceive a slight on her end. Which at times has had mixed results. Im planning on reengaging because im bored again after two weeks. Plus i see her as a challenge and tbh once i get her i tire of her quickly.:yawn: Its been a little over 3 months since weve had sex so im kinda determined to get laid by her birthday in January.
 

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You guys are f*cked up.
 

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Run away dipsh!t. The highs are not worth the lows.

PS - The key to these mental cases is to remain detached emotionally, never giving her the "love" she repeatedly begs for. She will try to manipulate you in every way to fall for her but the second you do and she knows it - She gone!

They LOVE the chase and will forever as long as you hold the carrot just beyond reach and push her away 3/4 of the time. They love to be treated like sh!t. However, it will be a huge internal battle for someone who wants a relationship built upon trust, respect, accountability, etc. Not just a fun, suck and fvck, empty, moron who worships you for treating them like dirt.

They are far better off as mistresses no matter how hot they are. Make no mistake. RUN.
 

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If this is a game to you... on the grounds of STDs why do you want to sleep with her? Why dont you just lead her on for as long as possible (validation) while having sex with other women? I typically do this with HB3s that wont leave me alone.

You can tell her you love her, shes the one and want to marry her etc but absolutely refuse to have sex with her because you dont want her nasty yeast.

Nasty bunny you got there BB. Wrap up.
 
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