Not sure what I'm doing wrong

[dk1990S111]

Hey guys, been a while since I've been on here. I've been lurking the past few days and am hoping some of you more experienced DJs can help me figure out what I need to work on to up my attraction.

I do think that I just need to get out more but I honestly don't have time for much else in my life. I work 7:30 AM to 6 PM mon-fri at my families business, I see the same 20 people every day, we are an online business only. I make great money for my age, just bought a raptor to take out on weekends, I enjoy going shooting, I go to the gym mon-fri, I just moved out with a friend into a house (not common for our age here in Socal). Point is that I have all my own interests and hobbies, I don't try to rely on women for my happiness.

I would like to think that compared to most guys my age I am high value. Not trying to sound like I'm full of myself because honestly I am not. I just do my own thing, work hard, but I don't have any luck with attracting women. I know I'm no Brad Pitt but I am not ugly or anything lol

I know personality is almost everything with women but it's hard to even meet girls with my schedule. I had no problem attracting the 30 y/o married milf that worked with me. I went out with some of the other girls (both lesbians) from work and they invite the milf to come along too. She is all over me the whole time and basically kept asking where can we go to fvck. I had another married woman that kept taking me to lunch and I noticed her not wearing her ring a few of those times. It just seems like I can attract married/older women no problem but girls my age don't seem to go for the guys that have their shlt together.

Just not really sure what to do differently. Like I said, if you have advice to give I'm all ears. Shlt talking is pointless.

 

[BrainDamage92]

Now Im not a "DJ". I dont like the concept behind it, I dont like the fact that "DJs" sleep with taken women all the time, then brag about infidelity, when they could just do the right thing instead of getting laid. THat DJ thing aint a good thing man. Those same DJs will then try to settle and, karma is a *****... I mean I cheated on every GF I had on the other hand, but I checked reality after a 3 year nightmare with a Borderline HB10 creature from hell, the wolf in sheeps clothing, and now I like myself so much more. Young age isnt excuse for doing stupid immoral ****. It isnt really. BUT YOU NEED TO BE ASSERTIVE WITH WOMEN, AND NOT ONLY BASED ON LOOKS.

Now look, if you sit on your **** waiting for women to make advances on you you will only **** the scum of the Earth, or girls with deep psychological problems.

Are you tall? Are you handsome? Are you manly looking without being a chipmunk steroid mother****er? If not, work on it (apart from the height ), or just go for uglier girls. The 2 of you need to be in the same exterior level category. You see bald fat ugly guys with beautiful women - you guesseed right, they are hoes. Both of them.

Now go out. Have a walk. See a pretty girl. Look her in the eye. You gotta have the look man. The magic look which undresses her automatically. Imagine yourself undressing her while you look at her, and you will get the look I think. I always had it, but I know many people are like, too afraid to look a stranger in the eye.

Its not polite right?

!!!WRONG!!!

Look strangers in the eye, both male and female and SMILE at least with your eyes.

You will see that scumbag people cant give you this look back couse they cant even comprehend your attitute, they just look away scared ****less even if they are tough guy wannabies and walk and act like chipmunks. Evil people with little souls are SCARED ****LESS from this attitude.

So look at the girl. Imagine yourself stripping her clothes off. Smile. If she smiles back, she IS YOURS. Go up to her.

Say: "Hi, I like you. I'm XXXX, nice to meet you." and extend your arm for a handshake. Close it with digits or names.

Keep it short and HONEST, dont try to GAME women, BE HONEST, ALWAYS BE HONEST, they been gamed by ****tards since they were 14, so they dont buy into this crap. They may pretend to buy into it but they dont. Women are not retarded, and if she requires some guy to "game" her for her to like him, she is not worth it.

You need balls to do this kinda thing tho. Also, forget about online dating. Just foget about it, as Paccino said. Only scum-of-the-earth people there. Also know that quality women are not impressed with status and money. You know what impresses them - having values and opinions and sticking by them. Of course anyone changes his opinions, but changing them to make a hot woman happy? Nope. Dont. Smart women want this kinda guy couse smart women want to be kept in check, stupid women want this too, but are too stupid to realise it. Also the woman is always the first to come up with the "shared future" plan. You need to change that plan man. WOmen arent good at making plans, yet they do it all the time.

But for starters, be honest. Be real. Reach out and grab what you like.

Good luck.

 

[dk1990S111]

thanks a lot man, I appreciate that you took the time to type all that out. Just wanted to say first that I never actually fvcked the married women, just saying that I can attract them no problem for some reason. I dont think I act any differently around them, so I really dont know.

As for gaming and that sh1t I totally agree, I try to avoid that fake crap. I think honestly I need to put effort into going out to have more contact with women because right now I have very few opportunities to meet girls to talk to. But that just seems to go against what I read here about not relying on a girl to make you happy. Seems like going out just to look for girls to talk to would be "thirsty" behavior. I was going to bars for a while with a few friends, never any luck because the only decent girls were always taken or their girlfriends would c0ckblock.

 

[dk1990S111]

cutback on the gym to 3x per week and go out with friends, join clubs etc.

what kinda clubs are you talking about? lol

gym is one hour a night so I still have time for other stuff from like 7:30 and later. And I still have a lot of progress that I want/need to make. I have been going since July, I was 155 now I am 185-190 lbs.

My buddy is actually tired of fvcking new girls and I guarantee he gets that many new girls because his confidence from being very fit looking/he has no problem with the initial physical attraction

 

[pyros]

it has nothing to do with the gym.

You need to either build a social circle in which there are women your age, or go to cold approach if you want to meet girls.

It doesnt matter if you have value or not when you dont meet any girls.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Now Im not a "DJ". I dont like the concept behind it, I dont like the fact that "DJs" sleep with taken women all the time, then brag about infidelity, when they could just do the right thing instead of getting laid. THat DJ thing aint a good thing man. Those same DJs will then try to settle and, karma is a *****... I mean I cheated on every GF I had on the other hand, but I checked reality after a 3 year nightmare with a Borderline HB10 creature from hell, the wolf in sheeps clothing, and now I like myself so much more. Young age isnt excuse for doing stupid immoral ****. It isnt really. BUT YOU NEED TO BE ASSERTIVE WITH WOMEN, AND NOT ONLY BASED ON LOOKS.

Now look, if you sit on your **** waiting for women to make advances on you you will only **** the scum of the Earth, or girls with deep psychological problems.

Are you tall? Are you handsome? Are you manly looking without being a chipmunk steroid mother****er? If not, work on it (apart from the height ), or just go for uglier girls. The 2 of you need to be in the same exterior level category. You see bald fat ugly guys with beautiful women - you guesseed right, they are hoes. Both of them.

Now go out. Have a walk. See a pretty girl. Look her in the eye. You gotta have the look man. The magic look which undresses her automatically. Imagine yourself undressing her while you look at her, and you will get the look I think. I always had it, but I know many people are like, too afraid to look a stranger in the eye.

Its not polite right?

!!!WRONG!!!

Look strangers in the eye, both male and female and SMILE at least with your eyes.

You will see that scumbag people cant give you this look back couse they cant even comprehend your attitute, they just look away scared ****less even if they are tough guy wannabies and walk and act like chipmunks. Evil people with little souls are SCARED ****LESS from this attitude.

So look at the girl. Imagine yourself stripping her clothes off. Smile. If she smiles back, she IS YOURS. Go up to her.

Say: "Hi, I like you. I'm XXXX, nice to meet you." and extend your arm for a handshake. Close it with digits or names.

Keep it short and HONEST, dont try to GAME women, BE HONEST, ALWAYS BE HONEST, they been gamed by ****tards since they were 14, so they dont buy into this crap. They may pretend to buy into it but they dont. Women are not retarded, and if she requires some guy to "game" her for her to like him, she is not worth it.

You need balls to do this kinda thing tho. Also, forget about online dating. Just foget about it, as Paccino said. Only scum-of-the-earth people there. Also know that quality women are not impressed with status and money. You know what impresses them - having values and opinions and sticking by them. Of course anyone changes his opinions, but changing them to make a hot woman happy? Nope. Dont. Smart women want this kinda guy couse smart women want to be kept in check, stupid women want this too, but are too stupid to realise it. Also the woman is always the first to come up with the "shared future" plan. You need to change that plan man. WOmen arent good at making plans, yet they do it all the time.

But for starters, be honest. Be real. Reach out and grab what you like.

Good luck.

Clearly you don't know what the definition of a DJ is. You couldn't of been on this site very long based on your description, cause what you described is far from a DJ.

 

[PlayerSupremo]

Lets look at your pie correctly:

1. you work 7am to 6pm.

2. that leaves a huge chunk of the pie empty.

3. you workout okay that's an hour and still a huge chunk of life pie left.

4. Nightclubs are open after what 9pm in so-cal. I'm in North cal.

5. You could go spend some time clubbing even if you cannot DANCE because that is where 64% of the women go to meet men. 12% Go to be seen (read a study on this). I think it was 8% go to have fun or something like that.

6. So if 64% of the women in a nightclub go there to MEET MEN, my question is why aren't you there? Are you afraid of nightclubs? Too much competition? Can't dance? What is the excuse? Whatever it is you need to get over it and man up. Go to where the market is.

7. You work online. YOU provide a product or a service to people who find you online. That is your market. YOU business went to where the market was and created either goods or services to fill the need of the market.

8. YOU need to go to where the market is. Fill the need. They need men like you instead of the weak males and jack asses that show up there.

 

[stevo]

You have to understand where we are today.

There are people receiving little attention from women

There are people questioning why it's hard to cultivate any meaningful relationship

That's all because we are dealing with women ages 18 - 30 and women that age are a pain in the butt. They have everything going for them.

Men who have it easier are those in middle school and seniors over 50

Social circle with girls are your best bet.

Volunteering is another way to go. Online dating too.

You should build skills with the milf before something better comes along.

 

[dk1990S111]

Those are some crazy gains in less than 1 year. If you're good about it then thats prob fine, I tend to go for a few hours(incl cardio)....I had to cut back. It wasnt really necessary to go that often.

like clubs for hobbies, church, and also actual clubs but it sounds like that's not your thing.

Ya I'm not all cut, just ate a lot more to put on weight now I'm trying to drop body fat % and get cleaner gains. But at 6'3" I was pretty damn skinny when I was 155 so getting to 165-170 was no problem at all as long as I ate enough.

As for nightclubs, I'm down to go but the problem is that most of my buddies haven't had luck at clubs as far as getting girls to come home with them so they don't go anymore. It's mostly just the location, we live close to hermosa beach so that's where we would usually go. But the girls there are snobby as can be and think they are all models. We go to long beach (Belmont shores) and it's a totally different kind of atmosphere. One friend of mine that got basically ignored all the time in hermosa actually fvcked a girl outside the bar in Belmont. The only problem with going to Belmont is that it's a lot further so harder to get the girls from there to our place.

For the other kinda clubs I will see what's on meetup, one of the lesbian girls at work suggested I check it out since her cousin found his gf through a meetup club.

I guess I have some options and just need to focus on increasing the number of women I come in contact with every day.