Shoulders directly over the bar, im sure not if you can notice is in this video from the angle or quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEsVwXOw0Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEsVwXOw0Ak
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Top 10 Deadlifting Mistakes
Conflicting information.. He says at one point that for the Olympic lifts, keep the shoulders infront of the bar, but for the deadlift you keep them behind the bar.
Rippetoe contacted Dave Tate about that:
"The comments from Westside regarding "shoulders behind the bar" were intended to be cues for coaching, not a biomechanical analysis of the lift. Dave Tate explained this to me in our conversation. He agrees with me about scapula position off the floor, and anyone can look at videos of heavy deadlifts and make this observation themselves. I feel that a good understanding of the mechanics of the movement allows you to form your own cues, and is the most useful tool for developing correct technique.
Thanks to Tim T for the positive response. Thanks to all of you for reading it.
Rip"
From http://www.crossfit.com/journal/2006/11/a_new_rather_long_analysis_of.html
"The comments from Westside regarding "shoulders behind the bar" were intended to be cues for coaching, not a biomechanical analysis of the lift. Dave Tate explained this to me in our conversation. He agrees with me about scapula position off the floor, and anyone can look at videos of heavy deadlifts and make this observation themselves. I feel that a good understanding of the mechanics of the movement allows you to form your own cues, and is the most useful tool for developing correct technique.
Thanks to Tim T for the positive response. Thanks to all of you for reading it.
Rip"
From http://www.crossfit.com/journal/2006/11/a_new_rather_long_analysis_of.html
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Scapulae over the bar, shoulders infront.simon said:
Read it:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=147274
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
Most definitely agreeingsimon said:
Well I feel much better now. So I finally hit up the gym after about a week off cuz I was sick. Felt great.
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Workout for Today:
Squats - 3x5x135lbs +5lbs
Bench - 3x5x110lbs +0lbs
Deadlift - 2x5x95lbs +0lbs
Dips - 2x9
Well my bench and deadlift are the same. Bench is feeling more natural, I'll be adding 5 more pounds next week for sure. Squats I added 5 more pounds, feels good to be doing 2 plates.
My bench and squat are doing good, but my deadlift is still bad. I can't get the form down and I'm afraid if I increase the wieght then I might hurt myself.
But no worries, I'll get there soon. I'm suppose to be able to deadlift more than I squat right?
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Noodles, beef, shrimp, + Orange Juice
Meal 2: Sandwich (cheese bread, roast beef + veggies) + Protien shake
Meal 3: Noodles, beef, shrimp, squid, veggies + orange juice.
Meal 4: Noodles, beef, shrimp, veggies
Meal 5: Brown rice, veggies, beef, + fruits
Meal 6: ...
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Workout for Today:
Squats - 3x5x135lbs +5lbs
Bench - 3x5x110lbs +0lbs
Deadlift - 2x5x95lbs +0lbs
Dips - 2x9
Well my bench and deadlift are the same. Bench is feeling more natural, I'll be adding 5 more pounds next week for sure. Squats I added 5 more pounds, feels good to be doing 2 plates
. My bench and squat are doing good, but my deadlift is still bad. I can't get the form down and I'm afraid if I increase the wieght then I might hurt myself.
But no worries, I'll get there soon. I'm suppose to be able to deadlift more than I squat right?
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Noodles, beef, shrimp, + Orange Juice
Meal 2: Sandwich (cheese bread, roast beef + veggies) + Protien shake
Meal 3: Noodles, beef, shrimp, squid, veggies + orange juice.
Meal 4: Noodles, beef, shrimp, veggies
Meal 5: Brown rice, veggies, beef, + fruits
Meal 6: ...
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Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=147274
Watch the video god dammit! Take videos of yourself and post them up so that we can help if neccasary. The deadlift should be highest, yes.
Watch the video god dammit! Take videos of yourself and post them up so that we can help if neccasary. The deadlift should be highest, yes.
I watched the vid already. I'll try and get a camera next time.
As for right now, my diet:
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Brown rice, veggies, beef + OJ
Meal 2: Lobster, brown rice, veggies
Meal 3: Brown Rice, veggies, beef
Meal 4: Brown Rice, Veggies, fish
Meal 5: Brown Rice, Veggies, fish
Meal 6: Protien shake
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damn, lots of rice today from leftovers
Nothing seems to satisfy my hunger for long tho. About half an hour after each meal I get hungry. But I'm abit lazy to cook and stuff so I've been filling myself up with lots of fruits. (mostly watermelons, those fill you up real good)
As for right now, my diet:
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Brown rice, veggies, beef + OJ
Meal 2: Lobster, brown rice, veggies
Meal 3: Brown Rice, veggies, beef
Meal 4: Brown Rice, Veggies, fish
Meal 5: Brown Rice, Veggies, fish
Meal 6: Protien shake
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damn, lots of rice today from leftovers
Nothing seems to satisfy my hunger for long tho. About half an hour after each meal I get hungry. But I'm abit lazy to cook and stuff so I've been filling myself up with lots of fruits. (mostly watermelons, those fill you up real good)
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Workout for today:
Squats - 3x5x140lbs +5lbs
BB Rows - 3x5x100lbs +5lbs
Standing Press - 3x6x60lbs
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Banana, Roast beef sandwich, veggies, apple, oatmeal cookies.
Meal 2: Protien Shake, Banana, Vietnamese pancake (Ban Seo), has beans, beef, veggies, and some other stuff I don't know. it was gooood tho
Meal 3: Rice, beef, veggies
Meal 4: Rice, beed veggies
Meal 5: Rice, soup, veggies
Meal 6: Rice, soup, veggies.
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Squats - 3x5x140lbs +5lbs
BB Rows - 3x5x100lbs +5lbs
Standing Press - 3x6x60lbs
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Banana, Roast beef sandwich, veggies, apple, oatmeal cookies.
Meal 2: Protien Shake, Banana, Vietnamese pancake (Ban Seo), has beans, beef, veggies, and some other stuff I don't know.
it was gooood thoMeal 3: Rice, beef, veggies
Meal 4: Rice, beed veggies
Meal 5: Rice, soup, veggies
Meal 6: Rice, soup, veggies.
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Yay!
Good news!!!!
I finally did the deadlift today!
I'm so proud of myself. The thing I was doing wrong was positioning my feet at the wrong angle and the wrong width (too close).
Another guy caught that and told me to readjust and it helped!
Felt good, I can kind of feel it in my lower back right now.
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Well anyways, heres the workout for today:
Squats - 3x5x140lbs (I just noticed I'm not going down too far, I might have to lower the wieght to go ATG)
Bench - 3x5x110lbs (3rd week in a row Plataue?)
Deadlift - 2x5x95lbs (went light, but I still feel it in my back)
Dips 2x10 (should I start doing weighted dips?)
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Diet for today
Meal 1: Grilled cheese sandwich, fruits, milk
Meal 2: Whole wheat bread, duck, pork, salad
Meal 3:
Meal 4:
Meal 5:
meal 6:
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Good news!!!!
I finally did the deadlift today!
I'm so proud of myself. The thing I was doing wrong was positioning my feet at the wrong angle and the wrong width (too close).
Another guy caught that and told me to readjust and it helped!
Felt good, I can kind of feel it in my lower back right now.
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Well anyways, heres the workout for today:
Squats - 3x5x140lbs (I just noticed I'm not going down too far, I might have to lower the wieght to go ATG)
Bench - 3x5x110lbs (3rd week in a row
Plataue?)Deadlift - 2x5x95lbs (went light, but I still feel it in my back)
Dips 2x10 (should I start doing weighted dips?)
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Diet for today
Meal 1: Grilled cheese sandwich, fruits, milk
Meal 2: Whole wheat bread, duck, pork, salad
Meal 3:
Meal 4:
Meal 5:
meal 6:
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Umm, my back is starting to hurt abit? (lower back)
Its not like the soreness you feel from benching or squats, but its the uncomfortable feeling you get in your back like when you sit at the computer too long.
The deadlift felt right when I did it. Maybe my back is new to it and adjusting?
The guy said my form was good, and I read the article that Quag linked and everything seems to be right.
I'll try and tape it next time. I hope i didn't screw up anything
Umm, my back is starting to hurt abit? (lower back)
Its not like the soreness you feel from benching or squats, but its the uncomfortable feeling you get in your back like when you sit at the computer too long.
The deadlift felt right when I did it. Maybe my back is new to it and adjusting?
The guy said my form was good, and I read the article that Quag linked and everything seems to be right.
I'll try and tape it next time. I hope i didn't screw up anything
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You ain't gonna screw anything up with 95lbs dude, don't worry about it. It's just you're probably using muscles you've never used before.
well after about a week away from the gym ( i went camping) i went back today.
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Squat - 3x5x140 lbs (was fricken hard, my legs were so tired)
Bench - 3x5x110 lbs (will be increasing next week for sure. Finally! )
Deadlift - 2x5x115 lbs (I tried raising the wieght to around what I squat, but it was haaaard! So I'm just going to increase the deadlift slowly but surely instead.)
Was too tired to do dips, could barely support myself.
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Diet:
Meal 1: Egg omelet. (4 eggs, 11 slices of turkey, 1/4 of an onion)
Meal 2: Protien Shake + milk
Meal 3: 2 hot dogs on whole wheat buns and friend onions.
Meal 4: Rice, Fish, + milk
Meal 5: Rice, fish, + milk
Meal 6: Fruits, protien shake, + milk
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Squat - 3x5x140 lbs (was fricken hard, my legs were so tired)
Bench - 3x5x110 lbs (will be increasing next week for sure. Finally!
)Deadlift - 2x5x115 lbs (I tried raising the wieght to around what I squat, but it was haaaard! So I'm just going to increase the deadlift slowly but surely instead.)
Was too tired to do dips, could barely support myself.
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Diet:
Meal 1: Egg omelet. (4 eggs, 11 slices of turkey, 1/4 of an onion)
Meal 2: Protien Shake + milk
Meal 3: 2 hot dogs on whole wheat buns and friend onions.
Meal 4: Rice, Fish, + milk
Meal 5: Rice, fish, + milk
Meal 6: Fruits, protien shake, + milk
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Diet for today:
Meal 1: Hot dog, bun, fried onions + protien shake
Meal 2: Steak, salad, hard boiled eggs + milk
Meal 3: Spare Rib, Rice, veggies
Meal 4: Protien shake, fruits
Meal 5: Rice, steak, veggies
Meal 6: miss
Hows my diet been fellas? Any critism?
I'm trying to eat as much as I can, but I'm just never hungry anymore. I have to force feed about 3/6 of the meals.
Meal 1: Hot dog, bun, fried onions + protien shake
Meal 2: Steak, salad, hard boiled eggs + milk
Meal 3: Spare Rib, Rice, veggies
Meal 4: Protien shake, fruits
Meal 5: Rice, steak, veggies
Meal 6: miss
Hows my diet been fellas? Any critism?
I'm trying to eat as much as I can, but I'm just never hungry anymore. I have to force feed about 3/6 of the meals.
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