Non American girl is really throwing me off...please help!

spiegel549

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VladPatton said:
I'd go with backbreaker's advice. Phuck it all and phuckin no regrets. The last thing you wanna be is the nice guy who ain't bangin her just like all the other chump-diggities orbiting her. At least you'll know she isn't interested and you can cut your losses. Don't put her up on that pedastal. Remember, she can phuck your world up nicely if you get too attached at this stage.

Good luck, and dom't get pu$$y tunnel vision.
I can see it brother, getting so caught up with her P**** that she screws up everything I have going on. Why do I want to be like every other chump that she hangs with that won't make a move..sure I'll go nice and easy and be guy #54 that she uses for meals....F*** THAT S***.

I am going to go for it.

Worse case she rejects the kiss, rejects me making a move, if she does that I at least know I am wasting my time and money...

I will update after thursday to see what goes down!
 

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This worked for me once...

Consider it a LAST resort. When you don't give a F and are willing to lose her, this might make her put up or shut up.

I went on like three dates with this girl but still couldn't get a kiss.

So she texts me to chat and possibly set up another date..

HB: blah blah blah

HB: so how are you?

Mike: I'm doing well. But I wanted to tell you something...

HB: sure what is it?

Mike: I mean I like you and all and really enjoy your company, but I'm REALLY NOT LOOKING FOR A FRIEND. I'm looking for something more than that.

HB: oh <totally floored>

Mike: well I gotta go right now. Have a good night.

Two days later

HB: Wanna get together at 7pm?

Mike: Sure

She invited me to her place to watch a movie. Her shirt was off in the first 20 minutes lol.

Analysis:

Do you get why that worked? In a way, I very subtly suggested that her "dates" with me were BS. Without getting physical, it was just lame friend stuff. But I told her that in a low key way. It was a normal tone. I didn't sound butthurt or say it in a frustrated sarcastic way. I didn't beg either. I just made it clear that I wasn't looking to be her gay buddy.

I said it in a normal, matter of fact way. Then either cut off the conversation or change the subject. Let HER figure out what it means.
 

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Ok men, I need the next step here, and tell me if I played it right please..


I called today to setup date #3....phone rings, she picks right up.

She answers and sounds like she was in a coma...I said.

Me: "Hey Nicole, its Tom."

Her: "errrhhhggh hey...."

Me: "You sound like I woke you out of a coma over there."

Her: "haha..yeah..."

Me: "Listen I want to have you over for dinner and a movie tomorrow night, I'll pick you up at 5pm after work." (she doesn't have a car currently)

Her: I don't think I can...I have to go somewhere with my dads friend.

Me: Alright so your not going to be around all day?

Her: Yeah..he is suppose to take me to..(mumbled something I couldn't make out) lol..

Me: Okay no problem, maybe another time, listen I gotta run, I got a few things to take care of but I'll talk to you later.

Her: Okay..(mumbled)

Me: Bye. (hung up phone)


So heres the thing. If she legitimately busy fine but she never counter offered another date...whats the next step? Go ghost until she reaches out to me?

*Just a Note* I am going to run into her this sunday at my little nephews baseball game that she is always at (were we met) if that means anything.

Thanks Guys!
 

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Good shyt, man, well played. Ball's in her court. Meet her at the ball game and see how it goes. I went through the exact same thing. They love the attention, but for some reason or another you don't spark a sexual flame in them. Not a problem. It is what it is. You go on as if nothing ever happened and you state that, ''we should just give it a rest because I don't wanna just be friends" as Mike32ct said. Nothing wrong with YOU putting her into the 'Next Zone'. I, for one, hate being c0ck teased and it's what I would do.

Keep cool, man, and let us know how it went.

Good luck.
 

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Ok Here's the thing.

You have few few more chances with this girl.

You need to isolate ASAP kino etc etc and then pull her into your arms and go for the kiss.
 

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VladPatton said:
Good shyt, man, well played. Ball's in her court. Meet her at the ball game and see how it goes. I went through the exact same thing. They love the attention, but for some reason or another you don't spark a sexual flame in them. Not a problem. It is what it is. You go on as if nothing ever happened and you state that, ''we should just give it a rest because I don't wanna just be friends" as Mike32ct said. Nothing wrong with YOU putting her into the 'Next Zone'. I, for one, hate being c0ck teased and it's what I would do.

Keep cool, man, and let us know how it went.

Good luck.
Glad I played it well. How do you feel about the

"2 Strike Rule"
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154043

This would be date #3, so maybe she legit was busy (strike 1). Would I go Ghost until Sunday (and IF she doesn't respond) maybe ask her out one last time for next week?

I figure a woman with a high interest level will either right away counter offer a date while still on the phone with you OR will reach out a day or two later to make plans.

Since she said she was busy and I go ghost and she DOES NOT reach out to me once before sunday...how would I play it when I see her?
 

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JulieWatson31 said:
Ok Here's the thing.

You have few few more chances with this girl.

You need to isolate ASAP kino etc etc and then pull her into your arms and go for the kiss.
Tell me more please? Go ghost? Wait for her to reach out? I understand the next time I see her I gotta go for it (all or nothing) but until then..how to play it after this call?
 

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this thread is a prime example why i don't bother posting in the general forum. I'm just wasting my daily allotment of posts for no reason

congrats! you just took a girl who wouldn't even give you a kiss on the ****ing lips, and basically rewarded her stuck up behavior with a plead for another date, at any time that is convenient for her i might add.

then the same dudes will come back here and ***** about how all women are stuck up or how they all want jerk and how she is BPD or how she is a player or how she is a slut or whatever excuse youc an come up with

Her: I don't think I can...I have to go somewhere with my dads friend.
:rolleyes:


Me: Alright so your not going to be around all day?
translation= i don't have a god damn thing to do all day long but sit here by the phone and hope i can spend my time in your presence. I've also confirmed this behavior by trying to setup a date with you event hough you have not given me a prudent reason to want to move forward, i'm just that desperate.

Good shyt, man, well played. Ball's in her court. Meet her at the ball game and see how it goes. I went through the exact same thing. They love the attention, but for some reason or another you don't spark a sexual flame in them. Not a problem. It is what it is. You go on as if nothing ever happened and you state that, ''we should just give it a rest because I don't wanna just be friends" as Mike32ct said. Nothing wrong with YOU putting her into the 'Next Zone'. I, for one, hate being c0ck teased and it's what I would do.
that's the thing! she's not a **** tease. HE JUST DOESN'T HAVE ANY GAME
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HE HAS NOT GIVEN HER ONE REASON TO WANT TO **** HIM. HE'S AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME. HE CALLS ALL THE TIME. HE ISN'T EXCITING. NO ONE ELSE WANTS HIM. WHY THE **** SHOULD SHE BE PINNING TO **** HIM? AND THE ONE TIME HE TRIED TO PUSH THE ISSUE, SHE SHOWED A TAD BIT OF SLIGHT RESISTANCE AND HE RAN INTO THE CORNER LIKE A DOG WHO JUST GOT SPANKED.


Since she said she was busy and I go ghost and she DOES NOT reach out to me once before sunday...how would I play it when I see her?
SHE ISN'T GOING TO REACH OUT TO YOU. AND YOU KNOW THIS.

this ****, verbaitum, is exaclty what i told you was going to happen on the first page. her interest in you is waning beucase in her mind you are just friend 1000585 who is always there and is going to try to win her over by showing her how mature and understanding he is. and i gave you a blue print plan to get her interest back. the only way you are going to get her interest back is for her to come to the conclusion that she had you pegged wrong, and you are more interested/desirable than she originally thought.

and what do you do? you go the exact opposite way and you re confirm that you have no more options, you re confirm you don't have **** else to do.

this **** is a lose cause. not because she's bad girl, you just haven't differentiated yourself from anyone else. she doesn't have a tangible reason to want to be wtih you and you keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory


dating is a lot like training a dog. you don't give your dog doggy treats for ****ting all on the carpet. at least i hope you don't. that's pretty much what you just did. when a girl doesn't' act in a manner in which you find desirable, you have to take som ething away from them.. i.e your availablity/time/****/whatever/. and you don't have to even come uot and say it just don't be available. she will get it.

like hwen i was single a long time ago i had this chick named amber, the black chick i posted pics of on the other thread, and while we were courting she would get *****y every time i got off work and did not want to see her (i had other dates).. lol so i just stopped picking up the phone. evrytime she calle dwith that siht she got the dail tone. if every time i call you, you are going to bust my balls, i'm just not going to call you. that's the mentality you have to have. eventually she got the message.

women are mustangs. when you first get one out there int he wild they have bad habits nad siht. you got to break them down and break all the barriers and stupid **** they got pilled up. you start this off as soon as you meet them. if a girl acts an ass on a date let her go in time out do some other ****. you don't reward negative behavior.

if a girl lets you take her on 2 dates, comes back to your house and won't even let you get a kiss, you need to take away soething, not double down
 
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