No Country For Old Men

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I used to work alongside a dude with bowl hair like that 2 years ago. He was a total outcast, very weird, and nobody liked him because he stunk. I tried to befriend him because I care for the lonely. Plus I didn't want him bringing a gun to work and killing everybody, or at least turn the barrel away from my general direction. CYA
 

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awesome movie

I liked the poetic ending, a lot of people in the theatre groaned though
 

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This movie sucks. I just saw it and I find that the plot does not move along fast enough, the coin thing is just absurd and unnecessary as it does not add to the story, and did I forget to mention that US Border Patrol would not just let pass somebody without pants on, fresh bandages, and no papers? Just for having been in Vietnam, and the guard not having any way to confirm that? The guy would have been arrested.

Oh yeah and the shootout on the street between the cars. Of course nobody will hear that, because it was all silent and stuff. Nobody goes there anyway.

I highly doubt the protagonist would have survived all the bullet hits he took, as I have not been shot yet I cannot tell, but from my talks with my grandfather I think I understand the impact a bullet or shot wound has on your health.

The ending, however, is quite good, because it's not the typical Hollywood-lived-happily-ever-after ending, but a tragedy.
 

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thehexman said:
This movie sucks. I just saw it and I find that the plot does not move along fast enough, the coin thing is just absurd and unnecessary as it does not add to the story, and did I forget to mention that US Border Patrol would not just let pass somebody without pants on, fresh bandages, and no papers? Just for having been in Vietnam, and the guard not having any way to confirm that? The guy would have been arrested.
The events of this film take place nearly 30 years ago. Things were not always as strict as they are now, hence the reason we have border security issues these days. Also, the coin 'thing' adds greatly to Chigurh's personality and character development. It really explains his outlook on life and death if you'll think about it, frendo.

Oh yeah and the shootout on the street between the cars. Of course nobody will hear that, because it was all silent and stuff. Nobody goes there anyway.
So, I guess if you hear gunshots at 3am the first thing you're gonna' do is step right into it?:rolleyes:

I highly doubt the protagonist would have survived all the bullet hits he took, as I have not been shot yet I cannot tell, but from my talks with my grandfather I think I understand the impact a bullet or shot wound has on your health.
I thought it was alot more realistic than the average action flick.

The ending, however, is quite good, because it's not the typical Hollywood-lived-happily-ever-after ending, but a tragedy.
We agree on something!-- but if you'll think about it, the entire movie was like this. Most people just don't pick up on it for one reason or another... I think it is because most people are stupid, mindless cattle, but thats just me. :D
 

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Dude the movie was set in 1980 the border patrol was a lot different back then. I wish I lived in those times the world is fvcked up today.
 

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Aboleo said:
No, that wasn't a shotgun. It wasn't a "captive bolt pistol" (also known as a cattle gun), either-- it would not have anywhere near that kind of range (as it is a close-quarters slaughterhouse device, it projects a bolt out in order to stun, or stab and recoils back into itself by a spring operation). The gun used there was some kind of 9mm sub-machine pistol set on simi-automatic fire, I'm not sure of the exact type because it's been awhile since I've seen the film.

Why are you asking all these questions anyways... planning to perform a hit on someone? :p
Interesting tidbit from my days in the slaughterhouse....
Livestock has to be alive when it is slaughtered to enable to bleeding out process and hasten the hiding and cutting of the animal. If the animal were dead, the blood would escape the body very, very slowly, and time is money...

So animals must be slaughtered when alive. However, federal law requires humane practices...the animal cannot be concious when slaughtered, but for the sake of the slaughterhouse workers, it must be alive. The captive bolt" weapon is placed between the livestock's eyes and fired. The animal goes into seizure and essentially loses conciousness. It twitches and spazes like nuts...is stringed up and the neck is slashed over a drain and the blood flows out like a raging river. Time to eat!
 

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We should All live like Anton Chigurh.
 

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Dude the movie was set in 1980 the border patrol was a lot different back then. I wish I lived in those times the world is fvcked up today.
True that. Just wait until they are tatooing barcodes onto our foreheads.:eek:

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We should All live like Anton Chigurh.
Uhmmm, not sure I follow you on this one... How is that?
 

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I saw it today for the first time, first run was actually kind of boring. When I started to think about it later it made sense, the key details escape you the first watch. It's the throw-away lines that mean the most, like when he tells the kid "you didn't see me", and refuses to take the shirt off his back for free.

My favourite scene is when his wife refuses to call the coin-flip and accepts death rather than play along with it's game of chance. This is the free will of rejecting fate.

Here is an AMAZING write-up about the movie.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/01/1...untry-ending-it-was-supposed-to-piss-you-off/

You MUST check out the post by Dave Hopkirk January 15th, 2008 at 2:21 pm and Dave Hopkirk January 18th, 2008 at 6:50 pm.

Also worthwhile: Jane January 16th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, David January 22nd, 2008 at 8:08 pm.


One thing I don't understand: why did Anton give the old man at the gas station a coin flip, but not to the chicken driver?
 

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US Border Patrol has always been strict with regulations. Ellis Island is living testimony of that. I do not believe that in 1980 you could pass a border patrol without pants on, no documentation, and a bandage covering your bullet wounds.
Walk out of the US with $2 million in cash? US Customs likes to check baggage, looking for drugs and illegal plants/unprocessed food/contraband. Especially from and to Mexico. Even in 1980, border protection officials kind of looked in the bags.
Thinking about it, I was actually kind of intrigued by the movie up to that point, but the scene just ruined it for me. I like to pay attention to details like that. Perhaps it's just a personal thing though, as I have entered the US many times and always had some sort of problem.

I think also that the plot does not move along fast enough.

In my opinion, the coin thing does not contribute much to the understanding of Anton. Anton is a sociopath hired to recover the money. His actions, demeanor, facial expression, look, walk, the way he sits in the car all express more about him than the long-drawn coin scene. I was basically waiting for the plot to continue at that point, feeling it was unnecessary time invested into something quite clear.

The shoot-out at the hotel was also one of those points that stained the movie for me. Creating a large ruckus in town would certainly, in my opinion, attract attention from a third party. Also I would have been interested to know how Anton would have acted in the presence of a third party, since practically all of his encounters with the protagonist are one-on-one, except at the motel where he murders the occupants of the wrong room.

All in all, I find the plot rather on the thin side, however I must say that the acting is superb.
 

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i thought the movie was alright. Well, it was really good in the beginning and then towards the end it kinda got gay. When tommy lee jones's dad went into that monologue I drifted off. Also when tommy lee jones went into his monologue in the end I almost fell asleep...But as far as suspense and action goes, it was pretty bad ass.
 

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Good movie. Not oscar worthy, but entertaining.

I give it a 8.5
 

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yeah with rebound material

with the monolouge at the very end, i was thinking "this is freaking boring", the monolouge not the movie

he was just yabbering on about some **** nobody cared about and then the movie ended just like that

me and my mates were all like WTF. and then we all asked each other wtf he was saying at the end but nobody knew

i reckon 95% of people who watched that movie zoned out at that end bit where he was describing his dream
 

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i thought the movie was alright. Well, it was really good in the beginning and then towards the end it kinda got gay. When tommy lee jones's dad went into that monologue I drifted off.

Ed Tom Bell's (Tommy Lee Jones) father died many years prior to the events of this film. The man you are speaking of was his uncle, Ellis. I don't know why you thought this part of the film was so boring, because it was actually the most important part of the entire movie-- the meaning of the title is revealed in this conversation!

Some of you guys really need to read more, learn more, and pay more attention to something before offering your narrow-minded opinions. Sh!t.:box:
 

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Aboleo said:
Ed Tom Bell's (Tommy Lee Jones) father died many years prior to the events of this film. The man you are speaking of was his uncle, Ellis. I don't know why you thought this part of the film was so boring, because it was actually the most important part of the entire movie-- the meaning of the title is revealed in this conversation!

Some of you guys really need to read more, learn more, and pay more attention to something before offering your narrow-minded opinions. Sh!t.:box:
He was referring to Tommy Lee Jones talking about his dream. For some reason he thought that was Tommy Lee Jones' dad?
 

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He was referring to Tommy Lee Jones talking about his dream. For some reason he thought that was Tommy Lee Jones' dad?
He actually mentioned both scenes in his post, but it is clear that he didn't understand either one of them. I've already discussed alot of the meaning and symbolism of this film on the first page of this very thread, and I'm not going through all of that again because no one bothers to read before posting.:crazy:

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i thought the movie was alright. Well, it was really good in the beginning and then towards the end it kinda got gay. When tommy lee jones's dad went into that monologue I drifted off. Also when tommy lee jones went into his monologue in the end I almost fell asleep...But as far as suspense and action goes, it was pretty bad ass.
 

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The movie was ok, but nothing special.

This movie had way too much fluff. Tommy lee Jones had no business being in this movie. All the scenes with him could have been removed and it would have made no difference in the plot.
 

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The movie was ok, but nothing special.

This movie had way too much fluff. Tommy lee Jones had no business being in this movie. All the scenes with him could have been removed and it would have made no difference in the plot.

agree 100 %, i guess i was expecting way more from this Oscar movie. I guess it was over hyped. It was way too slow for my liking...with a fluff ending. Some parts were decent, and suspenseful. They randomly killed off the main character without showing the scene..overall 6.5 in my books
 

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the people who are disappointed were expecting an action movie. it's not.

you have to pay attention to the very fine details and consider the implications to appreciate it, it's much moreso philosophical than suspenseful.

it doesnt need a conclusion, thats part of the point. he was in the wrong place at the wrong times, and that's it, the story's over. the money, the drugs, his wife, all that stuff doesn't matter now. he's dead. life isn't supposed to follow any direction or be fair, it just is. we have conceived notions of how things are supposed to work out and end conclusively, but that's entirely out creation, not based on fact. randomness is a big factor in the film.
 
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