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No-contact, what happens when they come back?

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When you go no-contact with a girl who friendzoned you, what do you do when she re-initiates contact?

Thing with ganji games etc, I get the feeling when the girls come back to you they just miss your friendship or attention :confused:
 

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Hold out until she contacts you 3 times. Make sure it's romantic and not just friendly. Often, they are just testing you to see if they still have you. But I've parlayed the situation into scoring the next time I saw her. But when I did see her, I had to endure more tests - she originally said "I'm not sure about you" but your attitude needs to be "most women love me".
 

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MurdocIsGod said:
Thing with ganji games etc, I get the feeling when the girls come back to you they just miss your friendship or attention :confused:
You are right, this only works when there was some emotional investment and genuine interest, the rest is just for validation, attention or whatever else you can provide to them. I pulled ganj on one chick who wasn't interested and it worked once, but she pulled back again, second time she just cut the contact completely- stupid woman. I ve also lost her as friend as well. I hate ganji games, they work but can backfire especially in a friends situation. Just be careful and calibrate because you are dealing with human beeings who can be unpredictable. But yes, first thing that comes to my mind is that they are just friendly and want attention, thus testing you as well.
 

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NC aint beta. People do it because they pretend to next a woman, leaving themselves open to options. What would you do anyway in this situation? Be friends with everyone? How is ego involved here? NC and walking away are the biggest guns we have in the arsenal as the last resort.
 

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MurdocIsGod said:
When you go no-contact with a girl who friendzoned you, what do you do when she re-initiates contact?
be aloof & indifferent..let her ask all questions..if she asks whats up or whatever give ambiguous answers..if oppurtunity arises mention you've been hanging out with other gals(real or fictional)..also a lot depends on what she talks about.
 

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PapiChulo said:
NC aint beta. NC and walking away are the biggest guns we have in the arsenal as the last resort.
Exactly - because that's what you really do when you aren't interested, and that's what the guys who used and abused them (and who they loved) did. Plus it gives you time to get over them and let's you end on a high note if they are trying to reach you.
 

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Plug your nose, pray to Allah, and do the chicken dance. Afterwards...realize no contact is a stupid ploy for guys who have fragile egos.
Ah, so I should call a girl to ask her for a second date right after the first one. And when she says she is busy on Monday, I should say okay what about Tuesday, and then what about Wednesday, and then what about Thursday. And hello, what are you doing today, just thought I'd send you a text to say hello, same as yesterday and the day before.
 

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Plug your nose, pray to Allah, and do the chicken dance. Afterwards...realize no contact is a stupid ploy for guys who have fragile egos. If you want to graduate to the place where guys have really good success with hot women...you'll have to realize that gaining validation from others reactions meanwhile protecting your self-image is a losing strategy. Learn to man up or use these beta-strategies which will severely limit your potential.
really is there any need to put the pray to allah in between plugging ur nose and doing a chicken dance?

wtf is wrong with u kid, if you dont believe in god or any other thing then keep that **** to urself
 

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So like, when she comes back I can't be all cool and sweep her off her feet? :p
 

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MurdocIsGod said:
So like, when she comes back I can't be all cool and sweep her off her feet? :p

So you want to be all "cool" and "sweep her off her feet" when she returns from the no contact.


Well my question is....Why didn't you be all "cool" and sweep her off her feet from the beginning? Why didn't you do this when you two FIRST STARTED getting to know each other?



The friendzone isn't a detour,it's a DEAD END. You don't meet a girl and get friendzoned ALONG THE WAY to dating or having sex with her. If you get friendzoned,it's OVER. And even as powerful as "no contact" is,it's USELESS as far as LJBF is concerned.



The majority of the time,when a girl friendzones you,it's because of a lack of sexual attraction or chemistry,it's because she feels no "spark".

Or to put it quite simply,you don't "turn her on".



Well how does disappearing for a week or two change that? How does using "No contact" turn someone on? If you couldn't create any attraction while being in her presense,how does ending all communication period supposed to do it?



So if a girl is all fat,with short hair,has a few teeth missing,and you have no attraction to her whatsoever,all she has to do is pull a little NC on you for a week or two,then when her bald,over-weight,toothless self returns,you'll suddenly be all hot and horny for her?

Huh?



Asking a girl out and getting turned down is DIFFERENT from a true,genuine friendzone.


If you truely,truely,truuuuely are in the friendzone,it's OVER. No contact may make her miss you,but once contact is re-established,and the feeling of her missing you goes away,you'll be right back where you started-----which was her feeling no attraction for you.


The solution to the friendzone is simple.....


move on.
 

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True Igetit!, but what if she originally had extremely high interest, talked about having your children, you had a great romance, and you already had sex, but somehow you messed up (got jealous, were too available, liked her too much) and her interest level went down? Assuming she never used the "friend" word, and maybe just wants more of a challenge, doesn't NC help then? It seemed to in my case.
 

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Yeah, that should work, given that there was sex.
 

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Igetit! said:
So if a girl is all fat,with short hair,has a few teeth missing,and you have no attraction to her whatsoever,all she has to do is pull a little NC on you for a week or two,then when her bald,over-weight,toothless self returns,you'll suddenly be all hot and horny for her?


If you truely,truely,truuuuely are in the friendzone,it's OVER. No contact may make her miss you,but once contact is re-established,and the feeling of her missing you goes away,you'll be right back where you started----


move on.
I have to agree with that. I ve friendzoned 5 women personally because they either were not turning me on physically or had some character flaws that I could get over. I thought about dating them, and gotten asked out by 3 of them, but they either came at the wrong time or I was not feeling it, nor wanted to be friends actually. And they were not even that bad, just normal girls, not fat, but nothing special in general. And when they pulled away or ignored me I wanted to find what happened and if I was missing something about them, but I guess if had gotten their attention back it would be the same thing all over again,UNLESS they are better looking now or have cooler personalities. This works only when one improves themselves or there was a mistake in perceiving their value to begin with.
 
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Yeah, guys, ever knew a woman who lost 20lbs and turned into a fox in instance? Same thing.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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For the record, I not only applied NC but also lost weight, worked out and got better shoes (she was a shoe freak). The next time I saw her she complimented me about 30 times (as opposed to insulting me about 30 times as she had been doing). So remember to improve yourself during NC periods. Mine lasted from 4-6 days. She never went more than 6 days without contacting me.
 

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It's a good thing to not care or not have an ego. I see your point -it is all about the mindset.

I persist as well and truly never next a woman at all, I ll just move to another, and end up not paying attention to the other one unless she initiates, and than why should I? I can honestly say that I don't do it out of desire to protect my ego or whatnot. It's just a tool to use, and some point you still have to let her be, e.i. asking a woman out 3 times and getting shut down every single time - she is gonna get tired and pissed at you at some point, then get a restraining order.

Its also makes actual "nexting" a woman easier, in case she simply disappears.
 

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MurdocIsGod said:
When you go no-contact with a girl who friendzoned you, what do you do when she re-initiates contact?

Thing with ganji games etc, I get the feeling when the girls come back to you they just miss your friendship or attention :confused:
1) Gangji games and the guy who wrote about them are bullsh!t.
2) Always trust your instinct. And it seems you feel she is only coming back for friendship or attention.

If a fat girl asked you out, you friendzoned her and she went no contact: most of time would you contact her because you were sexually interested? Or just worried or curious about what happened to her after she dropped off the map? When you see the fat girl again, you're not going to want to fvck her unless she became skinny or something. Likewise even if she comes back to you out of some sort of curiosity, the fact is if you don't believe now you can get her or if you haven't changed in any other way, mindset or physical she's not going to want to fvck you. Why would she? You're still the fat girl playing no contact.
 

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1) Gangji games and the guy who wrote about them are bullsh!t.
2) Always trust your instinct. And it seems you feel she is only coming back for friendship or attention.

If a fat girl asked you out, you friendzoned her and she went no contact: most of time would you contact her because you were sexually interested? Or just worried or curious about what happened to her after she dropped off the map? When you see the fat girl again, you're not going to want to fvck her unless she became skinny or something. Likewise even if she comes back to you out of some sort of curiosity, the fact is if you don't believe now you can get her or if you haven't changed in any other way, mindset or physical she's not going to want to fvck you. Why would she? You're still the fat girl playing no contact.
What if you go no-contact, lose weight, work on yourself etc...

Would the result be the same as staying in contact and doing the same things?
 

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MurdocIsGod said:
What if you go no-contact, lose weight, work on yourself etc...

Would the result be the same as staying in contact and doing the same things?
Possibly. The only difference is the girl sees you throughout the transformation. No contact is not used to get a woman, it is used so you can get OVER a woman. If you're fine with staying in contact and improving yourself or even changing your perspective on things, then go ahead and do it. But more often than not the rejected is emotionally butthurt which is when no contact is used. You don't need a constant reminder of failure in your life all the time.
 
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