Nightclubs are frustrating

[y4m4]

It is just kind of annoying. I go to this nightclub with a friend of mine once in a while and none of the girls want to dance with guys. You always see them in groups with their one fat friend or that gay guy that goes with them.

You try dancing with them and they move away. You ask them to dance and they give you a very indirect 'no.' You tell them to dance with you and get the same response. You try talking to them(outside on the deck) and they give you the cold shoulder or have their b**ch shields up.

The best response I had all night was from a pair of girls that were sitting outside across from my friend and I. We were about to leave but I dragged my friend over and asked them to dance. They hummed and hawed for a bit and said they would but they were kind of tired. They invited us to sit and we talked a bit. A fight broke out and the cops shut the place down. I seized the opertnity to apply some kino and I shielded her with my left arm across her chest as I pushed some guy that almost fell on us away. They invited us to a diner down the road and we waited a little bit for their friend that didn't come out for a while so I gave the cuter of the two(the one I was talking to) my card and we left.

I don't get it; I'm not asking these girls to marry me. I just want to friggen dance. I'm not a terrible dancer, not the best either of course. That's more than the majority os straight guys there who just hold up the wall. I sure as hell am not ugly... I'm 5'11" or so and a slim ~160 pounds; here is a bad picture I just took of myself: http://tinyurl.com/m6zky

This was pretty much just a rant but does anyone have any ideas or should I just give up on nightclubs? It wasn't just me. There were a couple other guys there that would try dancing with the girls or try asking them to dance and they too got the cold shoulder.

So yeah, discuss your experience in clubs and any tips or techniques you use. I'm not that interested in actually picking these women up as much as I want them to just dance. I read somewhere that expect a 20:1 success ratio, I think that is just insane. I guess my success rate for the night was around 4:1 or 3:1 since that approach described was the only mildly successfull one.

I did some searching and there isn't as much nightclub information as I thought there would be. Here is some of the more useful stuff I came up with.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28156&highlight=nightclub
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=31626&highlight=nightclub
Got any links to add or general information and experiences?

Edit: This is a a pretty small club and happens to be the only one in the area that lets 18 and over in. I'm 19 and I tend to go after girls with the same wrist band as me to ensure they aren't much older than me and drunk girls don't do it for me.

 

[Phyzzle]

so I gave the cuter of the two(the one I was talking to) my card and we left.

Ach! Get HER #, doofus! Dont' give her yours!

Anyway, I can't help you: American clubs are too loud, but those 18+ freshman clubs are horrendously loud I can't even see straight. They do that to simulate drunkenness, I guess.

 

[y4m4]

Ach! Get HER #, doofus! Dont' give her yours!

Yea, I know she'll never call. I honestly wasn't too concerned. Oh yeah, its really friggen loud there and they play terrible 80's rock all night. Impossible to dance too and more impossible to talk to some one. But its the only club around here =/

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Try http://www.seduceandconquer.com to help improve your game in night-clubs or clubs. I've never been to a night-club, but if I did, I'd likely use the Payton Kane way of doing things - which is basically a neg-rap in a loud tone of voice and a disinterested act.

For example, dont ask a girl to dance, dance by yourself, and show that you are having a good-time without dancing with any girl. Your goal is to get a girl's attention on you, nothing more. Therefore, if you approach a girl, give her a neg-rap in a loud tone of voice, laugh at her, and walk away. If you get a b1tch shield - then you make sure you blast her with more attitude and insult her - but have a good-time doing so, you are having fun at her expense - in your mind, you can get laid with anyone there and dont need her, and you project that confidence. That's part of the game in nightclubs. If any girl gets hostile or angry at your routine -- do a suprise k-close on her after telling her to shut up.

Anyway, this is Kayton Payne's slant, I'm KJing it here, but his method will likely work best in the environmnet you are saying.

According to Payton Kane, girls at nightclubs want a challenge because they already know that every guy wants them, and they can select any guy they want. By going up to ask a girl to dance, your effect is only to stroke an already overinflated ego and serves no purpose - you have already defeated the purpose of any challenge because you already supplicated to her. By going up to a girl to insult her or neg-rap her, you are presenting yourself as different and as a challenge to her - that you are not another pathetic horney guy going to a nightclub and looking to get laid by someone.

Next you have posture, tone of voice, dress, and alpha-male projection - so, I just want to say there is plenty of opportunity to improve your game in the nightclub, and hope that link is helpful.