Nice guys don’t want hot girls in their 30s

[Trump]

The author, since he did not get the girls in his 20s, does not want these girls now that he is in his 30s.

Does Sosuave empthasize?

https://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-stev...y-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/

 

[Who Dares Win]

Agree with 90% of what he says, what he does wrong in my opinion is still giving any attention to those girls.

They are no longer an acceptable option, any energy spent on them is wasted even thinking about them...I dont speak to nor thing about middle aged women, fat women or messed up women, I just have my radar not registering them as existing.

If it was for me no man should be forced to sustain any woman he doesnt bang nor had anything to do with, those parasites exists cause the welfare state allows them to.

Any man knows that he has to count on himself from his early teens, there is no second shot unless he works to get it, there is no salvation if he loses a divorce.

If the average woman wants to go after bad guys she should be free to do so but at the same time those men who spend their teens with blue balls cause they were invisible to them should have the right to say fvck it and close their wallet with no third party involved.

 

[resilient]

The problem is the sense of entitlement from attention women receive nowadays from OLD and social media. Women's attitude towards men have shifted dramatically the last decade or so. It's getting harder (in my experience) to raise or maintain their interest level with so many options.

A guy's game has to be rock solid to maintain frame and she has to know the guy has options to stay interested. If he doesn't or senses that he doesn't, she's likely to lose interest fast without competition and look for the next challenge or circle back to an orbiter or ex.

The ability to pair bond with a new partner and form a lasting LTR is harder after having loads up hook ups, abusive relationships and divorces once they start navigating their 30s, heart matters become complicated. Relationships don't start and flow easily. There's more resistance. More interpersonal reservations.

Guys aren't approaching women in massive quantities IRL. Yet... online the flood gates open when they make an OLD or social media account with selfies, etc. Too many thirsty dudes out there sliding into their DMs hoping for a date or hook up.

I d/l coffee meets bagel last week. I found a good match and hit the like button. Do you know what happened next? I got a prompt on the app saying there are 50 guys in front of me waiting for her response, yet if I spent my earned bean "currency" or pay for a premium; I can move up the line. WTF? No!

I imagine without the proper lighting, angles, new photos the attention will go down at some point post-wall.

What most of the women struggle with is weeding out the desperate AFCs for their top pick(s). They ghost, radio silence, ignore or block the ones they aren't interested in dating. Nice guys (w/o game) don't get them excited are glanced over.

Not every nice guy like the author says becomes super successful in his 30s. He probably worked hard on his LMS to raise his SMV, yet is hurting to stay afloat and forge ahead. What is hurting him though is his attitude of becoming cynical from compound rejection.

I will end by saying it would serve him well to create a fun life, have great social spheres, hobbies, and strong family relationships. She can tag along. If he's smart, he'll continue to screen the ones with high mileage, AW, professional daters, and other toxic types.

 

[Dingo]

Good article...

 

[AttackFormation]

That article's opening sickens me. Here's another guy believing that "doing something" calculated is "supposed" to make the woman like him, like a video game walkthrough. Maybe that's where he got his ideas of how to interact with women from? they aren't really humans, they're like the pixels in the dating video games he plays. Just click on option A, B or C and out comes the pre-programmed result from the non-living script. Buying her sh*t, doing preconceived gestures like holding doors, trying to impress her. Just shut the fvck up and listen to her and ask her questions, stop talking about your job or your car or whatever it is and then complain either that she lost interest or that she's "materialistic". Stop "remembering our anniversary" and "buying her flowers" because you think that's what'll make you a "nice guy" and she is supposed to like "nice guys". It just makes you a two-faced slime.

This guy is putting on an insincere act, and then blames the woman for it. What a pathetic way to live your life.

We have to disassociate these kinds of guys from our "sphere".

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That article's opening sickens me. Here's another guy believing that "doing something" calculated is "supposed" to make the woman like him, like a video game walkthrough. Maybe that's where he got his ideas of how to interact with women from? they aren't really humans, they're like the pixels in the dating video games he plays. Just click on option A, B or C and out comes the pre-programmed result from the non-living script. Buying her sh*t, doing preconceived gestures like holding doors, trying to impress her (just shut the fvck up and listen to her and ask her questions, stop talking about your job or your bank account or whatever it is). Stop "remembering our anniversary" and "buying her flowers" because you think that's what'll make you a "nice guy" and she is supposed to like "nice guys". It just makes you a two-faced slime.

This guy is putting on an insincere act, and then blames the woman for it. What a pathetic way to live your life.

We have to disassociate these kinds of guys from our "sphere".

All of that use to be gentlemanly behavior and romance. Where he's going wrong is being interested in ladies who aren't interested enough in him.

 

[AttackFormation]

All of that use to be gentlemanly behavior and romance. Where he's going wrong is being interested in ladies who aren't interested enough in him.

Romance is spontaneous, not preconceived. What that means isn't that you can't plan to create romance, but that it has to be your planning. Not acting insincerely according to mass-cultural norms others created because you think she is supposed to find that "romantical".

Ask any woman what the most romantic thing she's ever experienced is and I guarantee you none of them will say "when he held open the door for me", "when he paid for my dinner" or "when I found out his behavior was all a calculated front to make me think he is "nice" enough to fvck".

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Romance is spontaneous, not preconceived. What that means isn't that you can't plan to create romance, but that it has to be your planning. Not acting insincerely according to mass-cultural norms others created because you think she is supposed to find that "romantical".

Ask any woman what the most romantic thing she's ever experienced is and I guarantee you none of them will say "when he held open the door for me", "when he paid for my dinner" or "when I found out his behavior was all a calculated front to make me think he is "nice" enough to fvck".

Some of us where raised to open doors, pull out chairs and other social Grace's for ladies. I know that's dead these days but some men will still do this for these non appreciative and non respectful ladies these days.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Do you get it it's not fake? And nice guys for the most part aren't manipulative, they Are just dumb.

 

[R.U.G.]

I read this article and the first thing I thought of that this guy is the classic AFC who's still butt hurt after being rejected. Even in my bluest of blue bill days, I never did the crap that he did. Though, for my wife, I did get her a gift on her birthday and our anniversary; so shoot me. I have a feeling a lot of men born in the late 70's and on have the same thoughts and feelings. They watch those 80's movies and the TV shows and think that is how women want to be treated. WRONG. Less is more. Give and take. That's the way it works. And, if it doesn't work out, move on to the next one. With over 3.5 billion women in the world, there's always a next.

 

[IKO69]

I can't blame him but he is operating from a position of hurt.....I wouldn't date a woman who is close or is my age just because, but at the same time I have no vendetta against 30+ year old women. They are free to do what they want...dating can suck for guys in their 20s you gotta move on from that ****.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I can't blame him but he is operating from a position of hurt.....I wouldn't date a woman who is close or is my age just because, but at the same time I have no vendetta against 30+ year old women. They are free to do what they want...dating can suck for guys in their 20s you gotta move on from that ****.

So what's your age, your dating range and your reason?

 

[IKO69]

So what's your age, your dating range and your reason?

My last girlfriend was 26 - I was 34 at the time. I'm 35 years old now. I normally am interested in women who have been out of college for a few years. I look at like this - most women my age, the good one's at the very least, have long gotten married and have kids. If I am going to get into a long term relationship with a woman than I don't want one that has been already put through the ringer. Some will say "well that is all of them by the time they go to to college" lol you guys know what I mean.

If I woman is not married by the time she is 30, and that's being generous and giving the woman lots of leeway.....something about that looks bad, esp. when they theoretically have "the pick" as they say.

 

[marmel75]

The author, since he did not get the girls in his 20s, does not want these girls now that he is in his 30s.

Does Sosuave empthasize?

https://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-stev...y-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/

They dont want nice guys now either, trust me. These dudes are delusional if they think any woman is going to respect them for being a doormat

 

[mrgoodstuff]

My last girlfriend was 26 - I was 34 at the time. I'm 35 years old now. I normally am interested in women who have been out of college for a few years. I look at like this - most women my age, the good one's at the very least, have long gotten married and have kids. If I am going to get into a long term relationship with a woman than I don't want one that has been already put through the ringer. Some will say "well that is all of them by the time they go to to college" lol you guys know what I mean.

If I woman is not married by the time she is 30, and that is after providing lots of leeway.....something about that looks bad, esp. when they theoretically have "the pick" as they say.

They get harder and more battle scarred as the years go on.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

They dont want nice guys now either, trust me. These dudes are delusional if they think any woman is going to respect them for being a doormat

So you might as well cheat a little bit. Manage your good, null and bad.

 

[IKO69]

They get harder and more battle scarred as the years go on.

Precisely. I actually don't like having to put it that way but it is what it is. When reality hits them, they get pissed and they take it out on men collectively. Who wants to be around that? I have thought about it long and hard and I don't give a **** what people say. I even had some woman one time, she is irate, pissed off as hell and told me I was shallow *******. I was like 'yeah okay, people like you are exactly why' and she was. She wasn't really all that amazing looking either, marginally attractive but she took her youth for granted and that ship sailed on by, then she had the nerve to talk a bunch of bull**** because of what I like/want. If it wasn't for the fact that all human beings age, women would've carried on their song and dance until they hit the grave. When I was younger I put up with far too much **** to not enjoy things right now. Things are going good for me.

I harp on it all the time - men have to play their cards right. Women are front runners - their youth/looks grants them a great time in their 20's. Most guys will largely be invisible during this time, not because of their looks or any bull**** like that. Play your cards right and things will change once you get into your 30's. You will be able to get 20 year olds and probably the bitches that turned you down will be vying for your jock. Most women won't be commanding the same attention they got in their late teens/20's once they are in their 30's+. I don't feel bad either.

 

[CBear]

I harp on it all the time - men have to play their cards right. Women are front runners - their youth/looks grants them a great time in their 20's. Most guys will largely be invisible during this time, not because of their looks or any bull**** like that. Play your cards right and things will change once you get into your 30's. You will be able to get 20 year olds and probably the bitches that turned you down will be vying for your jock. Most women won't be commanding the same attention they got in their late teens/20's once they are in their 30's+. I don't feel bad either.

Wise words! Thanks for that. In the mean time, working on future career, physique, and an idgaf and "alpha like" mindset is the best way to go for us 20 year olds.

 

[IKO69]

Wise words! Thanks for that. In the mean time, working on future career, physique, and an idgaf and "alpha like" mindset is the best way to go for us 20 year olds.

Yes but it is tough to convince those 20 year olds of this. They think you are talking rubbish or are ancient lol. It's the reality however. Those that do the work will be rewarded handsomely later on.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Any man knows that he has to count on himself from his early teens, there is no second shot unless he works to get it, there is no salvation if he loses a divorce.

If the average woman wants to go after bad guys she should be free to do so but at the same time those men who spend their teens with blue balls cause they were invisible to them should have the right to say fvck it and close their wallet with no third party involved.

This is very true. Traditionally, young people, whether male or female, were prepared to make the most of their opportunity when it came. The idea was that there was an optimum time to 'launch'. Now most young people [and even middle-aged people.. ha ha] are under the illusion that they have unlimited 'choices' in life. A consumerist conception if there ever was one.