Nice guy vs Don Juan

[Don_Joffe]

Here is the story, and its quite a shocking revelation. You know you get the juan's and everyone saying "nice guys finished last" well, ive always belived in that and it has always worked in my favour UNTIL a month ago, i made a new friend about 3 months ago and recently myself and him each night go to some girls houses to chill and speak, juan them, whatever, you know what i mean. So their we are lets say in her lounge talking and talking im flirting etc, playing hard to get, using alot of don juan techniques etc... im not doing anytjing to make me as a nice guy or as a bad boy type guy, just the king juan, but then my friend also talks and doesnt speak or do the juan things he tends to be a nice guy and now these girls are actually smsing me now asking me how my friend is and smsing me to tell me bring him with the next time we go to her house etc... I get the feeling they like him, so do nice guys really finish last cause in this case he is the nice guy im the juan, im about a 7 and half in looks he is about a 6...so we both good looking enough...im very close to model material and he isnt far off it , so we both NOT ugly, so its definetly not a LOOKS issue, wat can it be that they are some what in my opinion attracted to him?

 

[nzalan]

It's the good cop / bad cop routine. Girls always think they like the nice guy, but they're excited by the bad guy. When they've got both of you in the same room, they have something to compare you with. You're killing your chances by having him around, but also because it sounds like you just aren't doing anything active with these girls. You talk the talk, but you ain't walking the walk.

 

[Don_Joffe]

So are you telling me "Im killing my chances by having him their" that the nice guy is winning, then howcome it teaches us that the juan will always beat the nice guy? I dont understand your reasoning surely a juan should be able to overcome the nice guy? By walking the walk are you telling me I should initiate some Kino?

 

[Don_Joffe]

Can i get a reply?

 

[car501]

If you really want to find out whats going on, I would go over by yourself and see how it goes. The two of you together are giving them a choice. If you go over by yourself and they only talk about you friend, then you'll start to get a clear picture. If they ask you to call him and have him come over, tell them "What am I, a social director ?! If you want him to come over, give him a call." Thats what I would do.Maybe if you go by yourself it may put more of the attention on you. Good Luck..

 

[Don_Joffe]

car: That sounds like a good idea, and something which i will do in the future in order to defuse the issue i am currently having although it doesnt really answer my question why are the 3 girls (totally different girls in personality, everything, dont know eachother or anything) all attracted to him more as the nice guy, i mean they also like me, but they seem to have taken a deeper interest in the "Sweet" guy that he is?

 

[evolvingnerd]

a similar situation that happened to me during my real as*hole phase

i thought i was being a DJ, but i soon realised that i was overdoing the arrogance without really being funny, and so they were more attracted to the nice guy, as he was the only alternative

food for thought?

 

[Climax]

ffs

Originally posted by evolvingnerd
a similar situation that happened to me during my real as*hole phase

i thought i was being a DJ, but i soon realised that i was overdoing the arrogance without really being funny, and so they were more attracted to the nice guy, as he was the only alternative

food for thought?

I think u hit the nail on the head.

Don_Joffe: They like the other "nice guy" because he is the one that does all the talking... All you do is sit on the couch and watch tv.. wtf? If you want them to have a greater interest in YOU, then go talk to them, dont NOT bring him, thats insecure.. u need to be the alpha, u need to take charge, and u are not, all you do is sit there like an idiot and expect thngs to happen/expect them to like you, while your "friend" is the one doing all the talking and makes the girls interested in him... and yes, you DO act a little TOO arrogant at times, so stopping that will help.

Remember: take control, dont let your friend be the centre of attention, lead the conversations, speak MORE, get some kino going (like isaak did) and you should come up @ the top soon.

and by the way.. your friend is NOT a 6... one of the girls that commented on him said that he was not hot at all, and that it was the "vibe" that he gave out that attracted her to him.... think about it, and make the neccecary changes... before its too late.


Laterz...

 

[Don_Joffe]

A storm is brewing mr.aequitas. a storm is brewing. the clouds will close up, the skies will gather pace and soon Ill become a Don Juan and when I do, Mr.Isaak will have no chance and neither will YOU or anyone ELSE that intends talking the whole night? The only words every1 else will get in is, "hi" and "bye" - WTF.

 

[Climax]

lol...

Originally posted by Don_Joffe
A storm is brewing mr.aequitas. a storm is brewing. the clouds will close up, the skies will gather pace and soon Ill become a Don Juan and when I do, Mr.Isaak will have no chance and neither will YOU or anyone ELSE that intends talking the whole night? The only words every1 else will get in is, "hi" and "bye" - WTF.

Best of luck


Laterz...

 

[TizZle]

What age group are you talking about? Isn't true that younger women want to control guys? Teen Girls.. Maybe since he is a "nice guy" they find it easier to possibly control him.. Any thoughts on this?

 

[ScrewIt]

you say he's a "nice guy" but what characteristics or attitude he has that makes him a nice guy.....? is he desperate, passive, accepting favors for no reason, etc.

The term nice guy isnt to be labeled so easily..
please elaborate