NFL Toughens Domestic Violence Policy

[Jaylan]

The b!tch fvcking married him a couple weeks after all this happened. If she doesn't care, why should anybody else?

I think it's retarded that all of society is flipping out over the release of a video of something we already knew had happened. The idea that a crime is ten times worse because a video happened to be made just makes no sense at all to me.

Considering all the "we dont know what really happened" excuses that were being made for Ray Rice, the full video needed to come out. And thus the punishment. The NFL cant not do anything after this video was made public.

 

[Maximus Rex]

There's No Audio to the Tape

All we have is the video without the benefit the audio. This purely conjecture on my part, but who knows what smart ass sh*t ole girl was letting fly out of her mouth. Everybody is talking about how wrong Rice is for droppin' the b*tch, but nobody is talking about that ole girl was walking up on him before she got dropped. Then there's the f*ckery involving the league and the Ravens.

How do you issue a punishment, then increase the severity of the punishment. What happened to Rice is a perfect example of why double jeopardy and ex post facto laws are unconstitutional, and Rice should look into a legal remedy.

This all goes back to the p*ssy pass that society is giving women. Violence doesn't happen in a vacuum and we're only seeing the end result of a situation that was festering and exacerbated by both parties. It makes you wonder what the f*ck ole girl said to dude to make him steel on her.

 

[Tictac]

Cold ****ing a 100 lb woman is inexcusable.

Nothing she, or any weaker person, could have said justified that.

My ex-wife came at me a couple of times trying to wail on me.

I just held her arms at her side and told her 'you're not allowed to hit me'.

 

[Maximus Rex]

We Disagree

Cold ****ing a 100 lb woman is inexcusable.

Is cold ****ing a smaller and weaker man also inexcusable?

Nothing she, or any weaker person, could have said justified that.

As if she can burn your house down, beat your mama up, kill your dog, and you're not suppose to hit her. Naw, that's bullsh*t.

My ex-wife came at me a couple of times trying to wail on me.
I just held her arms at her side and told her 'you're not allowed to hit me'.

If you would have dropped her, that "couple of times," would have only been one time.

 

[Tictac]

Typing like a tough guy Max?

Impressive.

 

[zekko]

That is one herky jerky video, it's hard to tell what's going on. From what I can make out, he took a swing at her, she charged at him, and he knocked her out. Is that everyone else's conclusion?

That's certainly different than what we were originally told, that she hit him, spit on him, and bit him before she got punched. I'm not sure what the source of that info was, but if he was lying about what she was doing to aggravate him, maybe that's why the Ravens took the further step of releasing him.

When I was four years old, I was continually assaulted by a kindergarten classmate girl, who would then tell the teacher I hit her. All lies. I was punished on a daily basis for it to the point where I would no longer talk to anyone. My mother had to work with me all summer just to get me to speak to people again.

I figured there had to be some story behind it.

 

[speed dawg]

When I was four years old, I was continually assaulted by a kindergarten classmate girl, who would then tell the teacher I hit her. All lies. I was punished on a daily basis for it to the point where I would no longer talk to anyone. My mother had to work with me all summer just to get me to speak to people again.

Perhaps it made me the way I am today, but I don't give two FVKS what her size it. If she hits me, she is no longer a woman, and she will get hit in kind. Those would defend such behavior deserve similar treatment, as they are an agent of oppression.

As far as I am concerned, when you are violating the rights of one person, you lose all claims to your own rights. A person of any gender hitting anyone does not deserve restraint, they have forfeited that right. They deserve a shot to the mouth.

"You must spread some....." you know the drill

 

[zekko]

I did see before they went in the elevator though, that she did smack him in the face, so I definitely empathize with him and I do believe she deserved retaliation.

Great, this is what I was hoping for, fresh eyes. It does look like she amybe smacks him in the face by the column there, right when she approaches him. Not sure why you are so insistent about hitting women. I can see why so many are outraged at what Rice did (his reaction is way out of line with whatever feeble little smack she dealt him). But why is no one upset that she struck him in the first place?

The answer, fair or not, is that her blow is clearly ineffectual and did no lasting harm. Still, she instigated the physical contact, so why is no one talking about that?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Great, this is what I was hoping for, fresh eyes. It does look like she amybe smacks him in the face by the column there, right when she approaches him. Not sure why you are so insistent about hitting women. I can see why so many are outraged at what Rice did (his reaction is way out of line with whatever feeble little smack she dealt him). But why is no one upset that she struck him in the first place?

The answer, fair or not, is that her blow is clearly ineffectual and did no lasting harm. Still, she instigated the physical contact, so why is no one talking about that?

I know most people would just see red when viewing this video: Pro-football player knocks out poor innocent girlfriend. I don't know the details but it looks like, up to that point, she did not have any fear of him using any physical violence against her. By the pillar, when he was waiting for her, he seemed to say something to her, probably something like: "B1TCH", then she smacked him in the face. Then in the elevator he seemed to get in her face and it looked like she took a swing at him again, but this time he was ready and swung back, then she went after him, then he let loose and laid down a haymaker.

Not exactly how I would suggest you handle something like this. However, I'm not sure what the laws are here. But I'm wondering if a defense attorney could come in here and plead a case for RR if he ever got convicted for this thing.

 

[zekko]

No, he wouldn't have a chance. You have to use reasonable force necessary to repel the attack, he went too far.

Yeah, that's the thing. I'm not a big fan of the legal concept of "reasonable force", but that's what this comes down to. But it troubles me that the girl gets off scott free, why has no one brought up the fact that she initiated the physical contact? Well, except for Stephen A Smith, who got suspended for his troubles.

Even though it was basically just a swat, so I can't share Dangers bloodlust for physical vengeance on her lol.

 

[Jaylan]

That is one herky jerky video, it's hard to tell what's going on. From what I can make out, he took a swing at her, she charged at him, and he knocked her out. Is that everyone else's conclusion?

That's certainly different than what we were originally told, that she hit him, spit on him, and bit him before she got punched. I'm not sure what the source of that info was, but if he was lying about what she was doing to aggravate him, maybe that's why the Ravens took the further step of releasing him.


I figured there had to be some story behind it.

Many feel Ray Rice lied and basically put his girlfriend on trial in front of the country with that lame press release and interview earlier in the summer.

There may have been other altercations between them before reaching the elevator area. That said, I think Ray Rice deserves what he gets. The dude intimidatingly gets in this woman's face, appears to spit on her in my opinion, she objects, he takes a swing, she charges, he knocks her out. With whats on the video, I dont see how people can still try and blame his wife and defend the piece of sh!t named Ray Rice.

He was waiting to get in the elevator to do this crap, and Im sure its not the first time he's put his hands on her. The lack of remorse or urgency to see if shes ok makes it apparent. Plus, what dude hits the woman he supposedly loves like that over some petty ish, and then shows no concern for her well being after she smacks her head on a railing? The punch is bad enough, but simply dragging her with little concern out of the elevator and acting like he isnt phased...thats what made people so angry.

Men have died from well placed punches...especially if their head hits something on the way down. A soccer referee out in the midwest just died in the last few weeks from a player punching him in the head/neck area. Same thing happened to another soccer referee in Utah last year and that was a punch from a damn teenager. (Google those stories please). So I dont see how anyone can defend Rice's actions at all or waste time blaming his wife.

If the woman had died or was put in the hospital, more dudes would be hush hush about this, though Im sure some would still support the fool. I stand with TicTac on this. Theres no reason to hit a 100 lb female like that over some petty crap especially if youre a big football player. The one bad thing about all this is that he wont have dudes targeting him on the field this season...because based on player responses I sure some players would have been gunning for Rice.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Many feel Ray Rice lied and basically put his girlfriend on trial in front of the country with that lame press release and interview earlier in the summer.

There may have been other altercations between them before reaching the elevator area. That said, I think Ray Rice deserves what he gets. The dude intimidatingly gets in this woman's face, appears to spit on her in my opinion, she objects, he takes a swing, she charges, he knocks her out. With whats on the video, I dont see how people can still try and blame his wife and defend the piece of sh!t named Ray Rice.

He was waiting to get in the elevator to do this crap, and Im sure its not the first time he's put his hands on her. The lack of remorse or urgency to see if shes ok makes it apparent. Plus, what dude hits the woman he supposedly loves like that over some petty ish, and then shows no concern for her well being after she smacks her head on a railing? The punch is bad enough, but simply dragging her with little concern out of the elevator and acting like he isnt phased...thats what made people so angry.

Men have died from well placed punches...especially if their head hits something on the way down. A soccer referee out in the midwest just died in the last few weeks from a player punching him in the head/neck area. Same thing happened to another soccer referee in Utah last year and that was a punch from a damn teenager. (Google those stories please). So I dont see how anyone can defend Rice's actions at all or waste time blaming his wife.

If the woman had died or was put in the hospital, more dudes would be hush hush about this, though Im sure some would still support the fool. I stand with TicTac on this. Theres no reason to hit a 100 lb female like that over some petty crap especially if youre a big football player. The one bad thing about all this is that he wont have dudes targeting him on the field this season...because based on player responses I sure some players would have been gunning for Rice.

Based on what she said, she has acknowledged some of the fault of all this. Let's not place her as a saint in this matter. You need 2 people to cause a fight, not just 1. You weren't there to know fully what was said/done. Ray Rice will be play again for another team. The Ravens have no RB now. Well done indeed.

 

[Stagger Lee]

When I was four years old, I was continually assaulted by a kindergarten classmate girl, who would then tell the teacher I hit her. All lies. I was punished on a daily basis for it to the point where I would no longer talk to anyone. My mother had to work with me all summer just to get me to speak to people again.

Perhaps it made me the way I am today, but I don't give two FVKS what her size it. If she hits me, she is no longer a woman, and she will get hit in kind.

I had a similar experience well several but the one that I recall was in 3rd grade. The girl didn't hit me but went and told the feminist teacher that me and this other boy were roughhousing a new boy during recess. More like he was roughhousing me as he was bigger. The teacher told her to right down everything we (supposedly) did. I watched as the girl was writing away. Then the teacher took me out in the hall and paddle me so hard I literally had bruises.

Then there was several cases where around that time that an older girl that had hit puberty so taller and more developed would pick fights and would fight using kicks.

Then one time when I was around 10 or 11 or so, I had badly sprained my calf. I was at some kind of summer event for kids and was limping down the stairs when we were let out. This girl behind me kicked me hard in my injured leg yelling, "hurry up and move!" If females were the ones bigger than us as adults, they would beat us up all the time.

Mostly as a kid females rather than physical, used verbal abuse, try to turn other people against you, and making up stories to tattle tale or try to instigate altercation between two boys.. Even if a guy gets physical with a female often the female tried to provoke him to anger and females pick and stay with guys who are aggressive, so while I don't support aggressive or males who are bullies at all, I don't have much sympathy for women.

 

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I tend not to get involved in these mastubatory and azzhole fingering opportunities of moral preening the hivemind is currently bread and circus-ing over, but I liked this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmglOcYVg1I

So I support Ray Ray and not Shanaynay.

 

[Bible_Belt]

She posted a message today supporting him.

No one seems to understand that since they're married, all the money that is being taken from him as punishment would be half hers. So because we all feel so bad for her, we're going to take millions of dollars out of her pocket. We're punishing the victim, which makes no sense, but that's ok because it makes everyone feel good.

 

[zekko]

Zekko, you make a great point on how one cannot even point out her initial assault without facing occupational terrorism.

Okay, apparently now it appears that the initial contact between the two was initiated by Rice. It looks like right before she swats him, he spits on her. So from that perspective, it looks like any effort to paint Rice as the victim here is pretty much out the window. Which makes this basically a dead issue.

 

[Tictac]

In the end, it's simply a domestic violence thing.

The only reason anyone knows or cares is that he's famous.

I'm sure he gets his contract paid out.

Don't cry for either of them

 

[Jaylan]

In the end, it's simply a domestic violence thing.

The only reason anyone knows or cares is that he's famous.

I'm sure he gets his contract paid out.

Don't cry for either of them

From what Ive read in numerous reports and heard in numerous interviews, the Ravens do not owe Rice a dime.

Based on what she said, she has acknowledged some of the fault of all this. Let's not place her as a saint in this matter. You need 2 people to cause a fight, not just 1. You weren't there to know fully what was said/done. Ray Rice will be play again for another team. The Ravens have no RB now. Well done indeed.

Shes trying to protect her/his money. Why wouldnt she say the things shes said?

And actually you only need 1 person to cause a fight, and it happens all the time.

 

[Desdinova]

The NFL is an Entertainment Business, they don't want a few thugs to reflect bad on the company giving them a bad image. Kids look up to these players, and when they see a player getting off the hook for a domestic violence charge, they assume they will too and won't take it seriously.

It's a damn good thing they're still allowed to use drugs with little repercussions. After all, I'd rather have a kid who's a drug addict as opposed to one who stands up to his bossy, bytchy girlfriend

Generally, men don't just go around hitting their girlfriends. Lots of them push the man's buttons repeatedly until they lose their 5hit. If he's spoiling her like the well-paid athlete that he is, she's probably demanding more and more of him.

This is a domestic issue, not a sports issue. If he knocked out one of the members of his team, then there should be consequences. Last time I checked, there aren't any NFL stars who have their girlfriends playing along side of them.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

It looks like right before she swats him, he spits on her.

How did you not notice that part the first time? HOWEVER, I don't think he spits on her. Look at her reaction? Is that the typical reaction of someone who just got spit on? Wouldn't she at least try to wipe it off or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmglOcYVg1I

I'm so on board with this^ guy. This media and social media lynch mob mentality to make themselves feel special when things like this happen is getting old.