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"NEXTING" A Textbook Case

Billydee

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This is long, but juicy. Man, I love this ****.

In short, my question is how harsh/cold should I be when I'm NEXTING a chick, and should I call her out on it?

I don't want to be a whiny spineless dweeb. I don't want to be an unreasonable hothead. But I ALSO want her to know I'm not a fool, I'm wise to her ways, and she can't pull the woll over my eyes.


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The Backstory:

We're in class together until next week. We sit together. We flirt. Alot. I ask her out. It went OK. I'm not supplicating, I occasionally call her on her BS. I ask her out again. She waffles. I stand my ground, and we agree to grab some beers & play pool last night.

I have a GREAT day, I'm in a good mood. Confident, self satisfied, looking good. I show up, and she's dressed up a little....boots, good jeans, black top, hair & makeup done.

On the LAST break of the night, she flakes. Gives me puppy dog eyes, etc. and says, please don't be mad, etc. Explains that her friend is moving back to Philly and is having a dinner party that night. Wants to spend time w/ her before she goes. Tosses out a token "let's get a rain check date" for next week, but doesn't beg for a specific time.

So, my BS detector is going off like crazy.

Her: "So are you mad?"

Me: I kind of roll my eyes. Tell her to go w/ her friends. I say "Would I rather go out with you tonight? Sure. But the world won't end if we don't do this." I tell her, "Look, I want this to be fun, not a chore.... If we go out and you're feeling guilty b/c you're not hanging out with your friend who's moving, then it's not going to be fun for any of us."

Two minutes later, when we're on a different subject, talking about somebody else, I look at her directly and say, "I judge people by their ACTIONS, not their WORDS....as far as I'm concerned, that person is full of BS." I think she gets the hint, without me directly ripping on her.

At this point, I'm 100% NEXTING her, but I'm trying to avoid pouting or being a cry-baby.

HERE'S THE GOOD PART...

After class, pulling out of the parking lot, we go the same direction home. Since the date is off, I decide to go to the coffee shop. Which is in the same direction of the GYM that both she and I belong to. On a whim, I drop by the gym parking lot and guess what....I SEE HER CAR.

Old Toyota w/ Ohio plates. In California.

So now, I KNOW 100% she's played me for a fool. Got dressed up to lie to me, then went to the gym instead.

So my question is: Do I call her out on it?

I feel like I was pretty strong in my response when she flaked. Not whining. Not an unreasonable hothead. Not a fool.

BUT I would LOVE to somehow show her 100% that I know she lied to me. I know I'm NEVER going to ask her out. The only question is how cold should I be? Should I confront her? If this somehow turns her on, and she asks ME out, what do I say?
 

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Do nothing. Do as the Motley Crue song and " Don't walk away mad, just walk away."
 

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I would have walked in to chat with people i know, and when i saw her, just smiled and said "Hey wassup".. like its nothing at all, then kept walking.
 

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Another possibility: she left her car
at the gym and took off with her friend(s)
to that party in another car.
 

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She might of even been working out with her friend...? (doubtful)

When chicks flake, it's thier way of telling you to get lost with out actually having to say it... Thing is, you have to recognise it. Don't ask her out again. You'll become "back-up guy" and she'll only hang with you when she has nothing better to do.

Yeah, just walk away...
 

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Flakes.

Why do some guys like to call out a flake? Is it just for self satisfaction?

If a woman flakes on you it pretty much means she doesn't care about you. I don't think telling her off will do much. I don't think she'll run home and cry and think about the wrong she's done.
I just ignore a woman who flakes and move on.

Also, if a woman flakes as a test, then it's a better reason to move on.
 

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Re: Flakes.

Originally posted by Mazman
Why do some guys like to call out a flake? Is it just for self satisfaction?

If a woman flakes on you it pretty much means she doesn't care about you. I don't think telling her off will do much. I don't think she'll run home and cry and think about the wrong she's done.
I just ignore a woman who flakes and move on.

Also, if a woman flakes as a test, then it's a better reason to move on.
What he said ^^^

Just let it go man. She declined politely and saved your ego.

Have the decency not to harass her about it.

BTW: you've parted politely, which means she's gonna be all flirty the next time she sees you. So if you want to raise her IL, make sure she sees you with another hot chicks :D
 

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Update

Here's an update.

First, there's a SMALL possibility that she left her car there and carpooled. But that's largely wishful thinking I think. At the very least, I'm skeptical. She was only like 3 minutes ahead of me leaving class. And the class lets out at random times (between 9:30 and 10pm). So they would have had some James Bond type of synchronized plan.

***

Yesterday in class, I'm neutral. Pleasant but non-flirty. Breifer answers to her questions. The funny thing is, she's not flirting more with ME than the other way around. Could just be because I toned down, but I think she may have turned it up a bit. Trying to share food w/ me (I declined). Playfully hitting me in the arm, always starting conversations with me.

I'm not going to call her out on it. It would be breifly satisfying, but it wouldn't help in the end. Plus, if I can salvage this somehow, knowing that fact secretly will help me keep things in perspective.
 

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In a way, this is the "textbook" case of nexting.

- She flakes out with a bs excuse and lie rather than just saying no.

- The guy tries to be a nice guy afterward and lets it slide.

- He pretends to himself that he is nexting her but secretly he is still pining away for her hoping for another chance.

- She continues to flirt with him afterward trying to gain more attention but she really has no interest in going farther with things.

- He continues to look for signs that she might have changed her mind. He continues to be the nice guy. She continues to flirt.

- He continues to waste his valuable time and effort on a low odds chance instead of moving on.

Certainly a "textbook" case. But not the way it should go.
 
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Don't say anything - but if she ever suggests something to do with you one day, tell her you have to go out of town that day, then on the day she invited you out make sure she sees you in town! If you ever get the chance...allow yourself to reject her twice in a row...if you want to feel like you got the last word on the situation...if it makes you feel better.:p
 

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Good insight there, 'justdoitnever'
 

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Ok, I'm still waiting for the part of this story when you actually, like,... move on with your life?....

The bottom line is that you are wasting valuable time and energy on a female who is not interested in you.

Although "Don Juan" in reality is NOT a numbers game. It may help you play it in this "textbook case". Find ten attractive women on campus. Make small talk and ask for the home phone number, then date. At least one will give you a legitimate shot.

Now go do it...
 

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Originally posted by JustDoItAlways
In a way, this is the "textbook" case of nexting.

- She flakes out with a bs excuse and lie rather than just saying no.

- The guy tries to be a nice guy afterward and lets it slide.

- He pretends to himself that he is nexting her but secretly he is still pining away for her hoping for another chance.

- She continues to flirt with him afterward trying to gain more attention but she really has no interest in going farther with things.

- He continues to look for signs that she might have changed her mind. He continues to be the nice guy. She continues to flirt.

- He continues to waste his valuable time and effort on a low odds chance instead of moving on.

Certainly a "textbook" case. But not the way it should go.
Precisely!
 

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Update

This stuff worked like a charm. I've got the basics down, now it's just time to hone them. This is a bit long, but my last post. Here's a blow-by-blow account of last night.
***

As the above thread states, I hold steady with this chick for a few weeks. Not going to ask for her number, etc. Unless she cracks first. The last review class was last night.

She shows up & is all dressed up again. Hair, makeup, jeans w/ high heel boots, etc. I'm a little late b/c I had another interview. I mention I didn't eat. How's this for KINO: she offers to share with me this salad she made & brought to class. She has one fork. We proceed to share the salad.

Then.....wait for it.....last hour of the class, without prompting on my part, she writes down her phone number and passes it to me. I put in my pocket and continue taking notes w/ the lecture.

We then write some notes back & forth making fun of the professor, etc. The prof. talks about the Bar Exam, and how one student "cried" after the first day.

This girl then writes me,
"Are you a crier?"

What the hell am I supposed to say to that? She's digging for info. Must block.

So, I do some CF:
I write, "I only cry under two circumstances, 1) When my Michigan football team loses a game, and 2) When I'm stabbed with a rusty pitchfork. I am SO manly." Classic avoiding a personal question w/ CF.

She rolls her eyes.

There's a mailing list everybody's signing up on for class, and
she writes,
"Maybe we'll have a big dinner & dancing Gala after the Bar Exam."

I write,
"That'd be cool. You should see me dance. I can 'shake it like a polaroid picture'." Of course, I'm a total white guy who doesn't look like I could, so that surprised her.

Her reply, "One of my FAVORITE things to do is to to out dancing."

I ask what kind, and she lists 5 or 6 types. Including swing dancing. Just so happens, I taught swing dancing for 3 years going through law school for extra money.

So, once class is done, we set up the date. Next Thursday dancing in San Francisco. She also asked me to call her because she wants to grab lunch or something before then....to break up her studying this week.


So, unless I totally screw up the lunch date & dancing date, I'm in.
 

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I think your handling this situation quite well but I wouldn't expect too much. I'd say there's a 50% chance she'll flake again. This needs to be her last chance.

She flaked on you and you reistablished control of the situation by forcing her to make the next move. The average poster on this board couldn't do that and would instead rush into more rejection to save himself some time. When it comes to dating the tortoise will beat the rabbit.

Keep us updated on how this situation turns out.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Well said, dust. I'd next her unless she begins to show high Il by the 2nd date though.

Anti-dumps Machine in the tips section lines out these kind of situations perfectly, imo.
 
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