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thedeparted

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I met a girl a couple weeks ago and took her back to my place. Afterwards she sent me a text about how much fun she had. She emailed me once or twice the next week and I ended up telling her to come over. She was out of town. Then I told her to pick another night and she did. That night she canceled b/c of work and said she had to reschedule. Never heard from her since.

Could be just the holidays. But I assume that if she was interested she would reschedule. Am I right? Another possibility is that she wants to be pursued. What do you guys recommend for next move?
 

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Call her and explain that you will change your schedule to suit hers. State to her that you will change in order to earn a woman's approval. You will bend and supplicate to her every whim.

This should do the trick.
 

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thedeparted said:
Then I told her to pick another night and she did. That night she canceled b/c of work and said she had to reschedule. Never heard from her since.

Could be just the holidays. But I assume that if she was interested she would reschedule. Am I right? Another possibility is that she wants to be pursued. What do you guys recommend for next move?
Read some of STR8uP's threads. You both make the same blunders.

You lost when you "told her to pick another night .." You put all the control in her hands tp proceed or not. She decided NOT...because you were not leading her slowly and setting the right frame .
She had some attraction, but no COMFORT with you.

Instead, you should have made FIRM plans with her to see her someplace outside your house...follow that with the C&F and kino SOP, and then back to your house when she is stimulataed and feels SAFE being with you...

Telling a new womam to come around to your house without all the ground work says. " I want you for sex only." Her ASD kicked in and you were left scratching your balls.
 

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jophil28 said:
Read some of STR8uP's threads. You both make the same blunders.

You lost when you "told her to pick another night .." You put all the control in her hands tp proceed or not. She decided NOT...because you were not leading her slowly and setting the right frame .
She had some attraction, but no COMFORT with you.

Instead, you should have made FIRM plans with her to see her someplace outside your house...follow that with the C&F and kino SOP, and then back to your house when she is stimulataed and feels SAFE being with you...

Telling a new womam to come around to your house without all the ground work says. " I want you for sex only." Her ASD kicked in and you were left scratching your balls.
Good analysis. Thing is, this girl sent me a pic of her tits by email before we ever met, so I'm not sure about ASD applying here. And I offered to take her to a play during the week but she was working late and said weeknights were bad for her. Then she suggested coming over after the play but I told her it would be too late in the eve. for a weeknight. So I said pick another date and she said Thurs. But then she canceled.

I guess in hindsight I actually turned down her booty call idea. Maybe that made her insecure and she canceled on me to even things up. Or maybe she wants to use sex to get a relationship and doesn't feel like I'm giving her the relationship part. Or maybe she lost interest when I told her to choose another night.

In any case, I don't want to call and offer a date again when she nixed the previous offer and canceled on the previous plan. That makes me look weak and available as Guru noted. If she canceled she should reschedule. Not me. I could call and chat to re-establish comfort and *not* offer a date. Maybe that would get her motivated? I don't know if she is thinking that I'm not interested b/c I only offered her weekday activities and rejected the idea of coming over later that night, or if she's thinking I'm too interested b/c I offered to let her pick any other night. In any case, it's clear that something got fvcked up here, as usual.
 

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thedeparted said:
Good analysis. Thing is, this girl sent me a pic of her tits by email before we ever met, so I'm not sure about ASD applying here. And I offered to take her to a play during the week but she was working late and said weeknights were bad for her. Then she suggested coming over after the play but I told her it would be too late in the eve. for a weeknight. So I said pick another date and she said Thurs. But then she canceled.
This is all fumbling and stumbling on your part.
AS the man, YOU are the one who needs to LEAD her by setting up "dates", being definite about meeting times and places and nailing down all the fine details. You had just a loose connection with some random woman here who changed her mind..
I have made all these same mistakes with a few women by ASSUMING that her interest level in me was plenty of motivation for her to play her part in further creating a deeper connection. I let her IL drive.. WRONG !
A woman's IL can blow hot and cold like an afternoon sea breeze. IT is NOT a given even if you and she had a great night out the previous evening.

Creating attraction is relatively easy -thats just her brain chemicals and her adrenaline doing their thing. Creating safety and comfort via RAPPORT is not so easy. Women will not connect with you sexually unless you have attraction AND comfort in place and this does not take place readily via texts or emails.

Toss this experience away -

Oh BTW the "tittie" pics were just bait. A free sample of the merchandise .
Kinda high school stuff.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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thedeparted said:
Good analysis. Thing is, this girl sent me a pic of her tits by email before we ever met, so I'm not sure about ASD applying here.
You should have started escalating the sexual frame when she did this.... little sexual push/pull would have brought her interest level through the roof...if she pulled any bullshyt when you got together you could've called her on her AW tactics and not been left pondering...

I guess in hindsight I actually turned down her booty call idea. Maybe that made her insecure and she canceled on me to even things up. Or maybe she wants to use sex to get a relationship and doesn't feel like I'm giving her the relationship part. Or maybe she lost interest when I told her to choose another night.
Bingo...you turned down a horny girl and tried to take her out on a date..she got frustrated because you didn't "get it" and that's why she bailed on you and lost interest. No need to over-analyze the situation...

In any case, I don't want to call and offer a date again when she nixed the previous offer and canceled on the previous plan.
Good thoughts...that's like beating a dead horse.

That makes me look weak and available as Guru noted. If she canceled she should reschedule. Not me.
You lost when you didn't take advantage of the sexual bait she left on the table for you. Everything that happened after that is really pointless because she made up her mind right then and there that she was done with you.

I could call and chat to re-establish comfort and *not* offer a date. Maybe that would get her motivated?
Doubt it, she's labeled you already, hard to change a girl's mind, but in any case you really have nothing to lose. I would'nt call again if I were you

I don't know if she is thinking that I'm not interested b/c I only offered her weekday activities and rejected the idea of coming over later that night, or if she's thinking I'm too interested b/c I offered to let her pick any other night. In any case, it's clear that something got fvcked up here, as usual.
Your over-analyzing waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much here. Stop making this so complicated, instead learn from your simple mistake and don't do it next time. Your mistake being, failure to capitalize on a opportunity, that's all there is to it, nothing else.

Seems like this situation has happened to you a few times since you ended your post with (as usual). All you need to do is make an adjustment and you'll be fine. Woman especially an openly horny one, want a man---- a man who will take control and take what he wants. You didn't play the role of the man so she moved on.

Don't dwell on it move on. Keep her number and hit her up in the future. If you get another opportunity, give this girl what she wants and she'll be begging for more of your time.







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I guess you should have fvcked her the first time she was in your place. Thats what she was probably waiting for.

She maybe doesnt want a "date" but rather casual sex, does she ?

send her a text message like this and see what happens : "what are you doing? come over and get in my bed !"

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Ha ha. I did fvck her the first time, it was a casual sex situation . . .

Interestingly I just got an email from her suggesting we get together again and saying she is available all week, any time works now, and apologizing for having to reschedule. All this after I just decided to forget about her and the other girls, started reading some Taoist philosophy, and working on a new software project I've been wanting to do . . .

It's amazing. Do your own shlt, and they come right back to you. :rock:
 

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I can't believe no one's asked this, but...

...can we see the tits?
 

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Also, consider that maybe someone else attracted her away between the time of your phone call wherein she offered another day and the actual day itself. Maybe she wasn't all that into you to begin with. She may have been having fun originally, but you know these things turn on a dime. One half-way wrong thing you say or do and it's over.

But the only way we can tell for sure is for us to see that picture of her breasts, because then we can size her up.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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From Anti-Dump's Machine

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Women should be interested in YOU. Not what you are doing. When a woman changes the date it is a RED FLAG.

Think about it. She is 'negotiating' a simple date. What other demands is she going to insist on in the future?

I was once engaged to a girl that turned down TEN second date ideas. I swear to God!

She was one of the most INFLEXABLE girls I ever had a relationship with. We were going to be married and she REFUSED to spend sundays anywhere but at her mother's house. No exceptions. And she hated Boston. I LOVE Boston. My second date idea should have been Boston! Then I would have gotten rid of her then and not later.

You tell her "I was looking forward to playing pool with you. I'll give you another buzz sometime".

You pick the dates YOU want at first. She needs to like your style.

Call a week later with a DIFFERENT date idea. Not the one she said. Remember you are testing for HIGH INTEREST. If she doesn't accept the second one, throw her number away. I would say for the second turndown: "Wow. We seem to be different as night and day. Listen, maybe I'll see you around town. Goodbye."

The first date should be accepted . And the second and third as well. After that, you can compromise.

Another way is the counter-offer.

Ron: Let's go sky diving. I'll pick you up at 1:00PM on saturday.

Miss Inflexable: Oh god, I could never jump out of a plane. How about a simple dinner.

Ron: Sorry, but I just lost ten pounds. How about jet-skiing? (THE COUNTER-OFFER) My uncle will let me use his jet-ski . I'll be over at 3:00PM.

Miss Inflexable: I'm afraid of falling off the darn thing.

Ron: Maybe down the road we can get together. I gotta go. (click)

The whole point is that if she accepts your first three dates
she is going to be a flexable partner down the road.

Women that feel EVERY date has to be mutual are bad news in my book.

I called one girl years ago for a movie date. She said "I have to be in the MOOD for a movie".

Today Anti-Dump would say "Listen. I'll call you back when you are in the mood"! Like NEVER!

Stand your ground. It shows you are not desperate and that you are a MAN. You have BACKBONE.

It weeds out the ones that just want to use you for a good time. Or are going with you because they are bored.

You must be the FOCUS, not the girl. She needs to like who you are, not you to mold yourself to her pleasures. You guys are not ‘creating’ interest, you are just deceiving yourself. Why do people deceive themselves? Because it flatters the ego.

For a strategy to work, one of the sexes CAN'T be using a strategy.
Read this again.

One side has to be defenseless for the 'strategy side' to WIN.
Read this also again.

A man who is a Nice Guy will call a woman repeatedly because in the "Rules" she won't return a man's calls.

I other words the guy has to 'beg' for a date. Real men don't beg.

Begging is impossible with my strategy because of the two call limit. You are not defenseless.

If the male and the female are both using a strategy, like in chess, you have a STALE MATE.

Both of you LOSE the game.

The answer is simple: Date only women who have no 'plan'. Here's the great part. Women dislike strategies. As soon as they meet a guy they have HIGH interest in, they are the first to break the rules!

This is why you should never make an exception. The woman will be the first to compromise (a little).

Women who won’t let the men lead (at first) are scared of being women. You need to avoid them.

Almost every guy on the planet shows EXCESSIVE attention to a women. This goes on day after day, year after year. Women are bored with it. They've heard the compliments a million times. You believe a myth. You believe a woman doesn't get enough attention. You believe she's starved for attention. This is not so. Every day some guy is asking her to "get together some time". Every day some guy is asking for the number. Every day some guy is telling her how beautiful she is.

When you show a women INITIAL interest like said above, SHE BEGINS TO LOSE interest. Your theory would work if nobody was approaching these women day after day. THEN, her interest would suddenly INCREASE. But, instead, it DECREASES when you tell her how fine she looks and talks. She's BORED by unearned attention.

So, in effect, there can be no 'Cycle'. Attention kills the deal. It might work on an unattractive lady. I'll give you that . But on attractive to beautiful. I say it BACKFIRES.
 

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If you're there talking to her, you are showing interest. If you're taking time out of your day to spend time with her, you are showing interest. If you had no degree of interest, you would not be there. You can't escape it.

Excessive attention, I agree it 'kills the spark'. But if the woman doesn't feel your masculine intention, nothing is going to happen.

BTW--is there any guy here who goes out of his way to give compliments, calls the chick all the time, etc? I'd be surprised if anyone here still does that stuff.
 

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guru1000 said:
Call her and explain that you will change your schedule to suit hers. State to her that you will change in order to earn a woman's approval. You will bend and supplicate to her every whim.

This should do the trick.
Yes. And in case that doesn't seal the deal for you, make reservations at a fine dining restaurant, and rent a limo. Make sure you have flowers and chocolates when you go pick her up. Women love it when they are rewarded before they have the need to "earn" it.
 

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Saw her tonight. After sex she starts crying. Ah, am I that good? Nope, there is this other guy she broke up with b/c he demanded that she be exclusive. So that was the story. She really just wants to be friends but sleeps with me not to be lonely. That's why there are no buying signals, but there is sex. Really, not too satisfying so I won't hit this again. But I'll let her friendzone me and then I'll meet her friends...
 

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thedeparted said:
After sex she starts crying. Ah, am I that good? Nope, there is this other guy she broke up with b/c he demanded that she be exclusive.
That is priceless! He must have meant a lot to her! Lol.

Kind of off the subject, but I actually had a chick screaming "I fvcking HATE you!" over and over, while I was banging her the other night! I've never liked the chick, and have always been a dyck to her, but she was all over me, so I decided to fvck her. She started crying in the middle saying "Im not fvcking you if we're only gonna fvck once" :crazy: Kind of late for that sweetheart! It obviously turns her on cuz I am a dyck to her, so I dont feel bad about it.
 

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horaholic said:
Kind of off the subject, but I actually had a chick screaming "I fvcking HATE you!" over and over, while I was banging her the other night!
A priceless example of why we should never believe what women say .
The greatest truth is in their behavior.

Scary thought - eventually this woman will give birth to some kid who has to grow up with her as a parent.
 

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The even scarier thing is, she already has!
 
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