News article on how people are noticing that looks don't mean sh*t to women.

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Found this article on the net just now...again, testimonials of how far too many people are noticing that looks don't mean sh*t to women. Read up guys...

The article even mentions New York, where I hall from, and how if you walk down any Manhattan street, you'll notice the ugliest of ugliest, dorkiest of dorkiest guys with hot women. Me and my friends talk about this sh*t all the time. It is the truth.

http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/s...sawN3aGVuLXNoZXMtaG90LWJ1dC1oZXMtbm90BHp6A2Fi
 

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edger said:
Found this article on the net just now...again, testimonials of how far too many people are noticing that looks don't mean sh*t to women. Read up guys...

The article even mentions New York, where I hall from, and how if you walk down any Manhattan street, you'll notice the ugliest of ugliest, dorkiest of dorkiest guys with hot women. Me and my friends talk about this sh*t all the time. It is the truth.

http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/s...sawN3aGVuLXNoZXMtaG90LWJ1dC1oZXMtbm90BHp6A2Fi
Trust me...LOOKS matter. "Cute"..."Hot"..."Sexy"...are some of the words women I have met or laid tell me when talking about me.

I am 100% sure they are not using those adjectives to describe my intelligence or confidence.
 

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Furthermore...MONEY and POWER has a way of making a dorky man "look" super sexy. Don't underestimate Money and Power.
 

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A homely man like Kissinger or Joel needs to be powerful or have extraordinary talent to get a high level woman. Incidentally, both these men are DJ's with the spirit of the warrior (Kissinger dealt with the rogues of the world, Joel was a boxer), and would probably have had success even if they weren't famous (although not as much success.)

Of course, a very beautiful man like Brad Pitt, can be a bit of a weenie when it comes to women, and still have women chase him.
 
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Latinoman said:
Furthermore...MONEY and POWER has a way of making a dorky man "look" super sexy. Don't underestimate Money and Power.
Haha, Latinoman, then why do "wealthy" guys PAY for p*ssy??, and frequent strip clubs to get lap dances?? If it came so easy to "weathy" men, then why do they pay for it? Most of an escorts clientelle are wealthy men.

Best example, why did Darryl Strawberry solicit a prostitute back in the mid 90's? The guy with all his fame and money according to the matrix should be able to get laid by hot women on a whim. Apparently though, he wasn't, was he?

Why does Alex Rodriguez spend time in strip clubs, according to tabloids?

Why did a senator bang an escort?

Why did Bill Clinton go for a cow like Monika Lewinsky? Huh?
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Edger...I am not going to debate something that I already know the answer. Live and learn dude. Once you do that...you would NEVER EVER refer to your "11 year old oneities".
 

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edger said:
Haha, Latinoman, then why do "wealthy" guys PAY for p*ssy??, and frequent strip clubs to get lap dances?? If it came so easy to "weathy" men, then why do they pay for it? Most of an escorts clientelle are wealthy men.

Best example, why did Darryl Strawberry solicit a prostitute back in the mid 90's? The guy with all his fame and money according to the matrix should be able to get laid by hot women on a whim. Apparently though, he wasn't, was he?

Why does Alex Rodriguez spend time in strip clubs, according to tabloids?

Why did a senator bang an escort?

Why did Bill Clinton go for a cow like Monika Lewinsky? Huh?
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Those guys did all that sh*t because they WANTED to. Not because they had no other options.

They like it, they do it. Sure, they could be doing other things. But, at the time, THAT's what they wanted to do. And they DID it.

Because those are the kinda guys who CAN do whatever they want. Strive for being that kinda guy.

And then, do what YOU want. (I'm not into chubby chicks - maybe Bill is.... to each his own.)

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Latinoman said:
Furthermore...MONEY and POWER has a way of making a dorky man "look" super sexy. Don't underestimate Money and Power.
Especially in Jew York....er, I mean New York. Sorry. :whistle:
 

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Those guys did all that sh*t because they WANTED to. Not because they had no other options.

They like it, they do it. Sure, they could be doing other things. But, at the time, THAT's what they wanted to do. And they DID it.

Because those are the kinda guys who CAN do whatever they want. Strive for being that kinda guy.

And then, do what YOU want. (I'm not into chubby chicks - maybe Bill is.... to each his own.)

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Come on Aliasguy, no wealthy man wants to pay for p*ssy(no man in general wants to pay for p*ssy). If they do, then it's only a handful who I guess get off on the fact that they're paying a woman for a sexual service. But nobody in their right mind is going to pay for sex if sex is already available to them.
 

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edger said:
Come on Aliasguy, no wealthy man wants to pay for p*ssy(no man in general wants to pay for p*ssy). If they do, then it's only a handful who I guess get off on the fact that they're paying a woman for a sexual service. But nobody in their right mind is going to pay for sex if sex is already available to them.
Sex is for men to satisfy himself AND the woman. But there is ONE exception to this rule...when a man pays for it. And once a man's pays for sex...he does NOT have to satisfy the woman, because then sex becomes a selfish act. Many men that have $$$$ can afford that. The each their own.
 

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edger said:
Come on Aliasguy, no wealthy man wants to pay for p*ssy(no man in general wants to pay for p*ssy). If they do, then it's only a handful who I guess get off on the fact that they're paying a woman for a sexual service. But nobody in their right mind is going to pay for sex if sex is already available to them.

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Then WHY do we get these news reports of these guys DOING so.... Hugh Grant, Eddie Murphy, and all those cited above?????? Do you doubt that there are MANY more that haven't been caught????


They do what they want because they WANT to. And that's OK!!!!

Was what I have said not CLEAR? They pay because the cost is trivial to them, and they get what they WANT. RIGHT THEN. I don't judge them, they can do what they WANT.


Open your eyes.

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edger said:
Come on Aliasguy, no wealthy man wants to pay for p*ssy(no man in general wants to pay for p*ssy). If they do, then it's only a handful who I guess get off on the fact that they're paying a woman for a sexual service. But nobody in their right mind is going to pay for sex if sex is already available to them.

this is a joke right?

charlie sheen use to pay for sex ALL the time. why? because he said what he wanted was just the sex. for a hot woman to show up, he'd screw her, then she'd leave.

which is what a lot of powerful guys want.

what they dont want is to have to spend hours of their time talking to some air head or seducing her just to get laid.

500 bucks to someone like charlie sheen is like a dollar to you and I. its like us spending a dollar to have some SUPER hot chic do whatever you want sexually and then leave after.

i think its way more common than you'd think among the rich.
 

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but as for the topic of this post.... its absurd to think that looks dont matter. and its a VERY rare site to see an ugly man with a hot chic. and 99% of the time that you see that its related to his career or something.

so you might have some ugly dude who owns a strip bar who always has a hot chic on his arm. if you didn't know he owned a strip bar and saw him at the mall you'd think 'wow, how did he score that hot chic?"
 

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I'd have to agree that looks do matter.

I was talking to this girl at work. I know its not looked upon highly here to take seriously what females say, but wer'e friends for a long time. She was telling me there has to be at least SOME physical attraction for it to go anywhere.

Girls are just as critical of guys when it comes to looks as guys are of girls. You should here some of them. "Ewwww!" "Oh that guys nasty" "Gross!". They are just like dudes sometimes, even worse.

The good thing is that although looks matter, its not a deal breaker.
 

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Micheal Moon said:
I was talking to this girl at work. I know its not looked upon highly here to take seriously what females say, but wer'e friends for a long time. She was telling me there has to be at least SOME physical attraction for it to go anywhere.
and thats what she was telling you! which means in reality its not just 'at least some' , but rather its 'i better think he's at least cute. and at least a few other women better think so also. otherwise forget it."

ive had this convo with many a women. and while they are cautious of being too blunt, they do openly admit to how important looks are.

there is just no way around it. i mean, even in the animal kingdom looks matter, whether its the peacock with the brightest feathers or the warthog with the largest tusks.
 

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edger said:
Haha, Latinoman, then why do "wealthy" guys PAY for p*ssy??, and frequent strip clubs to get lap dances?? If it came so easy to "weathy" men, then why do they pay for it? Most of an escorts clientelle are wealthy men.
I think it was Charlie Sheen who said it best, "I don't pay prostitutes for sex, I pay them to go home." In essence, all the BS that goes on with relationships (including the possible problems with divorce) can be extracted out for a little cash. And when you are wealthy, money for a night at the strip club, or with a high class escort, is like a few bucks for a beer is to the rest of us.

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Why did a senator bang an escort?
Actually, that is my senator, and I have a friend who went to high school with him. He was an über-geek then, and still is.

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Why did Bill Clinton go for a cow like Monika Lewinsky? Huh?
The POTUS cannot go "sarging". Lewinsky gushed over him, and he went for it. Although she was bit chunky (she is a whale now, but back then, she was only "pleasingly plump"), she was young and rather cute. And I'm sure that Hillary was not always the best wife from time to time. BTW, notice that after that little episode, their marriage became quite strong - even a First Lady (and perhaps future POTUS herself) gets right when a little competition is in the mix!
 

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Edger...I am not going to debate something that I already know the answer. Live and learn dude. Once you do that...you would NEVER EVER refer to your "11 year old oneities".
I'm afraid I've learned quite well.

11 yr old oneitis?? Haha, where the hell did that come from? All I did was make a statement about how I got my first girlfriend at age 11. How does that coincide with oneitis?
 

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I can't even believe this is still a debate on this forum.

Of COURSE looks matter. But they're not the ONLY thing... and they're far less important for women than they are for men.

You can compensate for being not too attractive.
 

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You're deluding yourself if you think looks don't matter.

Keep drinking the kool aid :).
 

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Instead of digging up stories and news articles that are basically propaganda, get a young, pretty boy guy friend and go out with him. Watch him just stand there and observe what women do. He'll just stand there in a bar and attractive women will come out of the woodwork and approach him, compliment him, and chat him up and basically hit on him. That will dispell any fallacy you might have that looks don't matter to woman.

Some of you guys that say looks and appearance doesn't matter to woman must not have very many guy friends and aren't very perceptive or experienced. If you had several guy friends, you'd realize the difference between that the ones that have it the easiest and attract the most women and the ones they don't isn't really how much "game" they have but the difference in good looks and a youthful appearance.

I realize knowing this is of limited usefulness but it's even more useless to believe something that's totally not true. If you're a guy who says "looks don't matter" and you're not at least ocassionally getting girls telling you that you are good looking, then you're probably a KJ and don't get much pvzzy from attractive girls. However, with some effort, you might be getting ocassional pvzzy with mostly average and below average girls.
 
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