New to the forum, in need of some guidance

[Bulletproof Heart]

So I'll try to make my story as short as possible...

I'm currently 20 (21 in 2 months) and in college in what should be the best years of my life. Well, sadly, they're not. I haven't done anything more than make out with a girl in almost a year now. And even before, I have only gone past making out with 4 girls in the last 2 years (only one in the last 18 months). I've only had one steady girlfriend ever, and did seal that deal back then, but haven't had sex since I broke up with her.

I was a constant reader and poster here during my first two years in high school, but back then I wasn't all that social so it never translated into success. During the year I dated that one girl, i think I reverted back to total AFC (not that I ever wasn't one). The main problem I seem to have is talking to girls and creating interest. Once I'm on a date I'm not shy about moving in, but getting the date is the challenge, or getting girls to think of me like that. Most of the girls I've made out with or done anything more have been either introduced by friends, or I actually met on facebook and talked them up online first. You can see how this would really be a problem at parties in college, since I seem to fail even with the drunk girls

Well, I am now doing summer school, and two of my roommates this summer are really good at getting girls. Of coarse I played it off as if I'm somewhat decent too. But they were talking a couple of days ago, and somehow started talking about Neil Strauss' "The Game." They recommended I read it, so I got it and I'm reading it.

I'm about 1/3 through, and reading it kinda helped me identify some things I have been doing wrong. But it also made me want to come back here since I remember this being a great site, and a lot of that stuff overlaps with stuff on the DJ Bible. So I'm coming back here for advice....as of now I'm thinking I'll try out some stuff off that book (I know, I won't say the same lines word by word b/c of the TV shows, but the general principles). But I guess I wanted the opinions of some people here on my situation. Keep reading the book and apply it, or what would be better? I also considered buying Mystery's Magic Bullet Handbook, but I'm skeptical that there's anything there that's not in one way or another in the bible here.

And just a couple of notes. I don't lack confidence in myself, only in my game. I'm in good shape and well groomed, and I'm not shy about talking to strangers, so I'm really not that far off...I just need to be able to create interest from girls.

 

[TheEdgeOf]

Advice? Okay, here's some advice

1)Read the entire DJ Bible (the link's at the very bottom of the page in case you loose this thread and link)

2) Listen to KontrollerX, and Victory. Warrior's pretty good too, there're some other guys as well, but It's 2 Am and I'm too tired to care or think about who they are.

3) Don't read any on wootangfinacial's posts, they'll just lower your self-esteem and maybe even your IQ.

3) Don't listen to Iqqi, For the love of god, don't even talk to her.

I have the number 3 twice because those two sorta fall into the same category

4) Always be prepared to walk away from anything. If you're not having fun, don't do it.

5) Never quit if someone rejects you, move on and try someone else.

6) Smile. SMILE.

7) Smile More.

8) NEVER, under any circumstances are you to ever loose your cool. Your emotions are reserved for things that deserve them, do not let stupid things like peoples actions upset them. If someone makes you angry, direct your attention away from them. Your time is too valuable to waste on people who don't deserve it.

9) Don't be a P*ssy. Take a chance and do something crazy. BAWLS TO THE WALL Do anything you want to do and do it with confidence, but don't be an idiot.

Cartwheel race to the end of a football field - Awesome.

Dive headfirst off of a 2 story building into traffic - Not so much.

10) Kino (touching girls). Yeah, well it's pretty straight forward. Start in light and work your way up.

11) Dance, even if you don't know how, do it. Wait no, especially if you don't know how!

12) Lead. That's a man's job. You're a man aren't you?

13) Never take anything too seriously, you're head will be spinning and you'll probably end up going crazy if you do.

14) If you can't remember her name, well I'd say you're doing a good job of number 13. Go ahead and ask. But play around with it. I forget girls' names all the time, I make a joke out of it. C+F.

15) Never get too drunk, tipsy is good, Drunk is not bad. Tipsy loosens you up and can improve your game, Drunk just kinda fvcks you up, you have no game when you're drunk.

16) Negs are good, but don't overuse them.

17) Most importantly, never pretend to be something you're not. Become the person that you want to be.

There, some quick tips off the top of my head.

 

[Bulletproof Heart]

Advice? Okay, here's some advice

1)Read the entire DJ Bible (the link's at the very bottom of the page in case you loose this thread and link)

2) Listen to KontrollerX, and Victory. Warrior's pretty good too, there're some other guys as well, but It's 2 Am and I'm too tired to care or think about who they are.

3) Don't read any on wootangfinacial's posts, they'll just lower your self-esteem and maybe even your IQ.

3) Don't listen to Iqqi, For the love of god, don't even talk to her.

I have the number 3 twice because those two sorta fall into the same category

4) Always be prepared to walk away from anything. If you're not having fun, don't do it.

5) Never quit if someone rejects you, move on and try someone else.

6) Smile. SMILE.

7) Smile More.

8) NEVER, under any circumstances are you to ever loose your cool. Your emotions are reserved for things that deserve them, do not let stupid things like peoples actions upset them. If someone makes you angry, direct your attention away from them. Your time is too valuable to waste on people who don't deserve it.

9) Don't be a P*ssy. Take a chance and do something crazy. BAWLS TO THE WALL Do anything you want to do and do it with confidence, but don't be an idiot.

Cartwheel race to the end of a football field - Awesome.

Dive headfirst of a 2 story building into traffic - Not so much.

10) Kino (touching girls). Yeah, well it's pretty straight forward. Start in light and work your way up.

11) Dance, even if you don't know how, do it. Wait no, especially if you don't know how!

12) Lead. That's a man's job. You're a man aren't you?

13) Never take anything too seriously, you're head will be spinning and you'll probably end up going crazy if you do.

14) If you can't remember her name, well I'd say you're doing a good job of number 13. Go ahead and ask. But play around with it. I forget girls' names all the time, I make a joke out of it. C+F.

15) Never get too drunk, tipsy is good, Drunk is not bad. Tipsy loosens you up and can improve your game, Drunk just kinda fvcks you up, you have no game when you're drunk.

16) Negs are good, but don't overuse them.

17) Most importantly, never pretend to be something you're not. Become the person that you want to be.

There, some quick tips off the top of my head.

Nice list thanks man. I will read the DJ bible again (even though I did like 6 years ago but it couldn't hurt). But besides that, how much should I take the info in the book "the game" to heart? How many of you guys have tried all that stuff? My roommates swear by it (at least the one most successful with girls does). I mean, I won't try to go and learn magic tricks, but some of the things, such as the 3 second rule seem useful.

 

[Rhoto]

Advice? Okay, here's some advice

17) Most importantly, never pretend to be something you're not. Become the person that you want to be.

There, some quick tips off the top of my head.

Thats the only tip that you should focus on at this moment. And read the Dj Bible.

 

[Scars]

Read the DJ bible FIRST and apply it. At least it's free and it will save you money. If you still don't see improvement then you can try the other books, but honestly I don't think you'll need them. The Art of Seduction was also a really great read. It helped me improve more of my party-type game, which is mainly all I focus on now. I very rarely street pick-up, all my pick-ups are at partys.

 

[Bulletproof Heart]

Thanks for the advice guys. I know about the Bible, and although I read a lot of it 6 years ago, I realize that I need to go through it again.
But what about the book "The Game?" How good is the stuff in this book? Seems like some of the principles (such as the 3 second rule, the cat theory or whatever its called, IOI) are good....but I do realize that I shouldn't go and learn magic just because of this book. I'm just wondering because my roommate who's most successful with girls swears by it. Should I finish the game first and then move onto the Bible or what do you think?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

The Game is entertainment, not a handbook. It's no substitute for what you'll learn here and how you apply what you learn.

Brother, you're just 20, relax. Read the DJ Bible again, do a boot camp. Don't think about women, get in college, focus on YOU, you're just beginning now.

 

[dannyegg4575]

The Game is entertainment, not a handbook. It's no substitute for what you'll learn here and how you apply what you learn.

Brother, you're just 20, relax. Read the DJ Bible again, do a boot camp. Don't think about women, get in college, focus on YOU, you're just beginning now.

The ironic thing is, he has to go through this whole experience before it hits home that his life is more important than The Game. That's what puberty does...

 

[Bulletproof Heart]

The ironic thing is, he has to go through this whole experience before it hits home that his life is more important than The Game. That's what puberty does...

What in the world are you talking about? If you're implying that I think getting laid is more important than my life then you're completely off. I have plenty of friends, have good nutrition and working out habits, play guitar and drums, and currently have a 3.9 while studying to be an accountant. I take school, my future, and my life seriously. If I'm given a choice to go clubbing, or stay in and study for an exam the following morning, I will stay in.

By no means do I think the game is more important than my life. It is however an important part of life, which is different.

 

[DJCT]

Advice? Okay, here's some advice

1)Read the entire DJ Bible (the link's at the very bottom of the page in case you loose this thread and link)

2) Listen to KontrollerX, and Victory. Warrior's pretty good too, there're some other guys as well, but It's 2 Am and I'm too tired to care or think about who they are.

3) Don't read any on wootangfinacial's posts, they'll just lower your self-esteem and maybe even your IQ.

3) Don't listen to Iqqi, For the love of god, don't even talk to her.

I have the number 3 twice because those two sorta fall into the same category

4) Always be prepared to walk away from anything. If you're not having fun, don't do it.

5) Never quit if someone rejects you, move on and try someone else.

6) Smile. SMILE.

7) Smile More.

8) NEVER, under any circumstances are you to ever loose your cool. Your emotions are reserved for things that deserve them, do not let stupid things like peoples actions upset them. If someone makes you angry, direct your attention away from them. Your time is too valuable to waste on people who don't deserve it.

9) Don't be a P*ssy. Take a chance and do something crazy. BAWLS TO THE WALL Do anything you want to do and do it with confidence, but don't be an idiot.

Cartwheel race to the end of a football field - Awesome.

Dive headfirst off of a 2 story building into traffic - Not so much.

10) Kino (touching girls). Yeah, well it's pretty straight forward. Start in light and work your way up.

11) Dance, even if you don't know how, do it. Wait no, especially if you don't know how!

12) Lead. That's a man's job. You're a man aren't you?

13) Never take anything too seriously, you're head will be spinning and you'll probably end up going crazy if you do.

14) If you can't remember her name, well I'd say you're doing a good job of number 13. Go ahead and ask. But play around with it. I forget girls' names all the time, I make a joke out of it. C+F.

15) Never get too drunk, tipsy is good, Drunk is not bad. Tipsy loosens you up and can improve your game, Drunk just kinda fvcks you up, you have no game when you're drunk.

16) Negs are good, but don't overuse them.

17) Most importantly, never pretend to be something you're not. Become the person that you want to be.

There, some quick tips off the top of my head.

Excellent advice.

 

[dannyegg4575]

What in the world are you talking about? If you're implying that I think getting laid is more important than my life then you're completely off. I have plenty of friends, have good nutrition and working out habits, play guitar and drums, and currently have a 3.9 while studying to be an accountant. I take school, my future, and my life seriously. If I'm given a choice to go clubbing, or stay in and study for an exam the following morning, I will stay in.

By no means do I think the game is more important than my life. It is however an important part of life, which is different.

sorry buddy, I didn't mean to offend you. I'm just saying like RT mentioned to you, concentrate on school and doing well. The girls will come, seriously. Remove anything that you learn from anybody. do your own things.

Everything that you learn here is common sense but mostly it helps you bring yourself out of the shell. Nothing is truly written in stones. You make the rules. You'll find that on your quest to becoming a DJ, you realize it was a journey leading you back to square one and that is to be who you already are, being yourself.