The flames on this thread make me embarassed to be associated with this community - men and women and everyone in between with it.
I hear the message of the OP, that most guys on here aren't getting it just right, however:
a bunch of us are just trying to learn something that didn't come naturally to us and that we weren't taught by parents/friends/etc... I don't see anything wrong with that.
HoneyLove it'll be interesting if you start answering peoples' problems like you offered to do instead of responding to flames with more flames. Seems like this thread started with combative comments and probably won't be changing tone any time soon.