New Phone & Number for Dating Apps?

[Tyrion]

After a long hiatus, I’ve decided to dip into the dating pool again.
I’ve had dating profiles on Tinder / Bumble / Happn for years that have mostly been dormant apart from a couple of uninstall for 3 months and then installed again.

When initially setup I didn’t put photos / complete the profile for a few months as it was a half hearted attempt.

I’ve not had many matches with attractive women in that time and I wonder if the algorithms that these apps are using have shadow banned / not showing my profile.

Currently using an iPhone and thinking of getting an Android to install the dating apps on with new number, email address and newer better pictures so that the profile is completely new with no trace back to the old profile for existing algorithms to link to.

Do you think this is worthwhile?

Also I’ve paid a couple of times and got an initial boost of likes and matches only to fade. I got the impression that these dating apps are scammers and I’ve not paid in years.

What are your thoughts and experiences of free vs paid on these apps?

PS Also planning an in person approach of a woman I regularly see at the local supermarket where we’ve smiled and waved for a long time now.

 

[SW15]

I’ve not had many matches with attractive women in that time and I wonder if the algorithms that these apps are using have shadow banned / not showing my profile.

Currently using an iPhone and thinking of getting an Android to install the dating apps on with new number, email address and newer better pictures so that the profile is completely new with no trace back to the old profile for existing algorithms to link to.

Do you think this is worthwhile?

No, I don't think it is worthwhile.

It's unlikekly you are shadowbanned. You are de-prioritized if you're a non-paying member. Even paying members have a low match rate (see below).

You're also 56 years old. In the swipe app world, you're too old to get a lot of matches with attractive. Most women will filter you out of the card stack due to your advanced age.

What are your thoughts and experiences of free vs paid on these apps?

Male who use apps need to pay in order to get the unlimited swipes. Most men have a lousy match rate on their right swipes. Mid tier looking men only match with around 1% of all right swipes. Men in the 90th percentile + have a much better match rate, but it's difficult to be a 90th percentile + man. Tinder limits to 100 free swipes a day and Bumble/Hinge also having swiping/liking limits on free accounts.

Getting unlimited swipes gives you a better chance of having enough volume to get sufficient prospects to get dates.

Also planning an in person approach of a woman I regularly see at the local supermarket where we’ve smiled and waved for a long time now.

You should have approached her the 1st or 2nd time after a smile & wave.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Nah, just get a phone app like TextNow

 

[Tyrion]

You're also 56 years old. In the swipe app world, you're too old to get a lot of matches with attractive. Most women will filter you out of the card stack due to your advanced age.

56 Years old and left on the shelf!

No hope for me then

My target is attractive early to late 40’s women.

 

[SW15]

My target is attractive early to late 40’s women.

Early 40s is a big age gap for a 56 year old man. Big age gaps can be done but they are more difficult to do.

It's more difficult to do big age gaps online because women do filter age more carefully behind an electronic screen than they would in some initial real life encounter.

Late 40s (46-49 year olds) is more realistic but even that could be challenging.

There's a lot of competition online for 40 something women even though one would think that there'd be less competition for them. There are a lot of horny older guys saturating the market.

 

[Tyrion]

Early 40s is a big age gap for a 56 year old man. Big age gaps can be done but they are more difficult to do.

It's more difficult to do big age gaps online because women do filter age more carefully behind an electronic screen than they would in some initial real life encounter.

Late 40s (46-49 year olds) is more realistic but even that could be challenging.

There's a lot of competition online for 40 something women even though one would think that there'd be less competition for them. There are a lot of horny older guys saturating the market.

I’ve noticed a lot of age fibbing by middle aged women on OLD knocking off usually 5, but sometimes 10 years to beat the filters.
Some fess up on their profiles saying something along the lines of they made a mistake setting up the profile and are unable to change it.
Other just outright lie and I think yeah +10 years!
There are mid fifties women posing as mid forties women. Some can carry it off and others are just plain laughable.

 

[SW15]

I’ve noticed a lot of age fibbing by middle aged women on OLD knocking off usually 5, but sometimes 10 years to beat the filters.
Some fess up on their profiles saying something along the lines of they made a mistake setting up the profile and are unable to change it.
Other just outright lie and I think yeah +10 years!
There are mid fifties women posing as mid forties women. Some can carry it off and others are just plain laughable.

That makes a lot of sense.

Men are also doing age fibbing too.

It's bad when both do it.

 

[Tyrion]

Not always.
My Dad was 19 when he met my 24 year old Mum.
He told her he was 21 and she told him she was 22.
Mum said she would not have dated him if she’d known his true age!
They were together until the end.

 

[Tyrion]

Also, the mount of badly done cosmetic surgery / dentistry / fillers / botox is rife along with photographic filters.
Some look like they’ve walked into a beehive and got stung by a thousand bees!
It shows how much value some women puts into her looks risking going under the knife with a butcher.

Others of no interest are high flying careerists or very tall and lifes fcuk ups covered head to toe in tattoos.

I do find it slim pickings to find a normal attractive women in her 40’s on OLD.

 

[BPH]

I'll be real with you, if you're 56 you're gonna have a hard time on dating apps if you're not exceptionally attractive or wealthy or something.

Most girls are NOT including you within their age range. I remember once filtering my age range to only older women for fun to show my parents how barren it would be if they were single - I think I swiped on 3 women in my 30-mile radius before I ran out.

That said, I wouldn't spend money on any of them. I tried Tinder Gold with a boost once for my birthday when I went up to New York and visited my brother - it just showed me the same people I would've swiped left on anyways.

As somebody just over half your age, I cannot give good advice for what will work for you, only for what I believe WON'T work. I would assume you'd need to put yourself out there at singles events or speed dating or something along those lines. Single women in the age range you're looking for are unlikely to be active on dating apps or social media.

 

[SW15]

Single women in the age range you're looking for are unlikely to be active on dating apps or social media.

I'm aware of a lot of late 30s/early 40s using swipe apps now. It's not easy for a lot of singles in this age range to meet through real life methods that aren't staged gimmicks.

I'm not sure how the 45-55 age range meets now.

 

[Gamisch]

Yall don't wanna listen. This is.mike ohearn, I believe he is 54 now...THIS might just your competitor..


Tbh I think you need new photos rather than a new number. And you should pay the subscription fee( at least for a while aand see if it gives you better results.

Most women around that age simply want younger men. And when they are around 50 they believe that "they have such greats connections with younger men."

Tldr: gotta step.uo your game bro..the game is tougher than ever before..

 

[BPH]

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Yall don't wanna listen. This is.mike ohearn, I believe he is 54 now...THIS might just your competitor..

Ah yes, my favorite natural bodybuilder.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

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Yall don't wanna listen. This is.mike ohearn, I believe he is 54 now...THIS might just your competitor..


Tbh I think you need new photos rather than a new number. And you should pay the subscription fee( at least for a while aand see if it gives you better results.

Most women around that age simply want younger men. And when they are around 50 they believe that "they have such greats connections with younger men."

Tldr: gotta step.uo your game bro..the game is tougher than ever before..

There are very few normal people walking around that are bodybuilders on ass loads of steroids at 54 looking like that.

Get fvcking real.

I really hope you aren't one of these people that believe this is possible "naturally".

 

[Gamisch]

There are very few normal people walking around that are bodybuilders on ass loads of steroids at 54 looking like that.

Get fvcking real.

I really hope you aren't one of these people that believe this is possible "naturally".

Haha no ofcourse not. But you gotta give it to him, being 53 looking like this is an achievement. If you wanna play OLD, you better adjust . Nobody wants to talk about this. I slept with plenty hot end 40/50 y.o women that would exclusively date younger men. A 50 y.o dadbod isnt even on the radar. Imo this at least need to be mentiod.

This is what you'll look like at 50 if you never loft weights:

Ofcourse Mike Ohearn it's extreme, but on the other hand: who said that people are even natty nowadays? No way to test it. Looks matter, extreme example but still stands. I know plenty of fresh looking 50 y.o men. This is old kickboxing legend Remy Bonsjasky at 49 y.o : good luck battling against dudes like this on the apps...


We're talking about dating apps right? Little you/I /we know there's a dude like that with cash cleaning up while being 50+, making you wonder why you get no response..

I'm the type of guy who doesn't need anything extra, I'm naturally full of anger and persistence. And I'm do NOT advocate for using shyte. I do however advice older men to keep working out IF you wanna stand a chance.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Haha no ofcourse not. But you gotta give it to him, being 53 looking like this is an achievement. If you wanna play OLD, you better adjust . Nobody wants to talk about this. I slept with plenty hot end 40/50 y.o women that would exclusively date younger men. A 50 y.o dadbod isnt even on the radar. Imo this at least need to be mentiod.

This is what you'll look like at 50 if you never loft weights: View attachment 13886

Ofcourse Mike Ohearn it's extreme, but on the other hand: who said that people are even natty nowadays? No way to test it. Looks matter, extreme example but still stands. I know plenty of fresh looking 50 y.o men. This is old kickboxing legend Remy Bonsjasky at 49 y.o : View attachment 13887 good luck battling against dudes like this on the apps...


We're talking about dating apps right? Little you/I /we know there's a dude like that with cash cleaning up while being 50+, making you wonder why you get no response..

I'm the type of guy who doesn't need anything extra, I'm naturally full of anger and persistence. And I'm do NOT advocate for using shyte. I do however advice older men to keep working out IF you wanna stand a chance.

I have no issues with apps, probably not your target audience

 

[Gamisch]

I have no issues with apps, probably not your target audience

Well the OP stated his age and the fact be doesn't get matches. Most men will have an image or 50y.o men thats incorrect.

I'm pointing out that even at 50 competition will be fierce as in basically it won't be anything different from other age demographics and their " challenges. I'd even say that at 50 you compete with men from age range 25 to 60. Yes also for a 43 y.o. woman..