New Here really need some advice from someone experienced (bit long)

Ookami369

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Hi Guys
Allow me to introduce myself

I’m a 17 year old(almost 18) Dutch Highschool student and I’ve been lurking in this forums since I was 15.
The post’s I’ve read on So Suave have helped me a lot and have made it easy for me to grow.
I have gone from a clueless afc to a guy who could lay the girl everybody tried to be friends with(although I had my share of fukk ups:p ).
Not that I ever began something serious I just did what I felt like and never got committed to anyone.

I could to what the majority of the guys around me could not
And I felt damn ****y about it

But as you can probably guess that’s not what made me create a account and post here.
I came across a situation that made me think I’m maybe just a rookie after all and I’d really like some advice form the more experienced Don’s.



After a year of absence I came back to my first high school for my final year(I think why I was absent is irrelevant).
Quite early in the the year I met this really cute girl who’s free hours between classes where mostly the same as mine so I usually hanged with her when I didn’t have any other plans(She’s almost 2 years younger btw).
I got to know her better and learned she had a boyfriend(don’t all the cuties have one :p ?) he wasn’t really I would consider a friend of mine but since I talked to him once and he seemed like a cool guy I decided I would not make a move on her. But I didn’t stop seeing her(was that my first mistake?) .

Fast Forward 2 months

I’m still seeing this girl quite regularly(I was still spinning plates of course I’m not a complete idiot ;) ) but nothing happens since I decided I would not make a move. It’s al quite friendly and we usually just have a lot of fun.
But as you have probably guessed I was falling hard for her
She never was flirty just friendly so I thought maybe she’s more than happy with her BF


I thought about what to do and I remembered something I read here that a Girl that can be stolen is not worth stealing.
I found that hard to believe at the moment but I thought that was oneitis speaking and not my common sense so I decided to forget about her .

That went quite well for more than a month
I minimized contact and spinned more plates and basically had a lot of fun doing it. None of the girls compared to her in personality or depth but they were cute so it helped for a while.

But then I started noticing she went out of her way to talk to me was and was always really happy to see me.
I started kinoing her a bit and she seemed real receptive to it we started seeing each other more often outside school again with more kino etc. Then she suddenly told me out of the blue she had a crush on me for months now(Yes I did feel like an idiot:eek: ).
I told here I was attracted to her too(Actually I was head over heels with her but I decided to leave that out:p ) but that I wouldn’t fool around with her behind her BF’s back out of respect for him.
She understood and we didn’t speak about it again

A week later she calls me really upset and practically begs me to come over.
When I arrived she told me she left her BF because she didn’t want to stay with him when she was in love with someone else. I took that as an indicator that her IL was through the roof( I mean I did not promise her anything).
So I kissed her and had a really nice afternoon(You know making out general cool stuff :D )


A few days after that she tells me she knows I’m seeing a lot of girls and she wants us to be exclusive.
I was(and still am) madly in love with this girl so I agree.

You’re probably wondering what the hell my problem is?
Getting at it

Well whenever were alone and I try to go beyond just making out she get’s really defensive pushes my hands away etc.
I did not make a big deal out of it thought it was because she was a bit younger etc.
So I just regularly kept trying to escalate it when we were alone.
She then suddenly flips and tells me she feels vulnerable when I do that and that I shouldn’t be so Impatient.

I raise an eyebrow

She apologizes for flipping but tells me she finds it difficult to trust a guy like that because her first boyfriend raped her.
I told her that was horrible and I felt bad for her but I’m not that guy are you saying you don’t trust me?
To which she answered No I don’t give me some time
I said I didn’t like to hear that she didn’t trust me but that I respect her decision.

That was more than a month ago

And I know for a fact that she did have sex with her ex bf(not that I mind but why am I different?)

Apart from that she is nearly perfect(as far as I can tell)
But I can’t rid myself of the idea that this is a mind game and I’m falling for it like a AFC.
I would really like some advice on this
Am I being the idiot here ?

Would really like some advice from an experienced Don
 

Febreze

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Ookami369 said:
Hi Guys
Allow me to introduce myself

I’m a 17 year old(almost 18) Dutch Highschool student and I’ve been lurking in this forums since I was 15.
The post’s I’ve read on So Suave have helped me a lot and have made it easy for me to grow.
I have gone from a clueless afc to a guy who could lay the girl everybody tried to be friends with(although I had my share of fukk ups:p ).
Not that I ever began something serious I just did what I felt like and never got committed to anyone.

I could to what the majority of the guys around me could not
And I felt damn ****y about it

But as you can probably guess that’s not what made me create a account and post here.
I came across a situation that made me think I’m maybe just a rookie after all and I’d really like some advice form the more experienced Don’s.



After a year of absence I came back to my first high school for my final year(I think why I was absent is irrelevant).
Quite early in the the year I met this really cute girl who’s free hours between classes where mostly the same as mine so I usually hanged with her when I didn’t have any other plans(She’s almost 2 years younger btw).
I got to know her better and learned she had a boyfriend(don’t all the cuties have one :p ?) he wasn’t really I would consider a friend of mine but since I talked to him once and he seemed like a cool guy I decided I would not make a move on her. But I didn’t stop seeing her(was that my first mistake?) .

Fast Forward 2 months

I’m still seeing this girl quite regularly(I was still spinning plates of course I’m not a complete idiot ;) ) but nothing happens since I decided I would not make a move. It’s al quite friendly and we usually just have a lot of fun.
But as you have probably guessed I was falling hard for her
She never was flirty just friendly so I thought maybe she’s more than happy with her BF


I thought about what to do and I remembered something I read here that a Girl that can be stolen is not worth stealing.
I found that hard to believe at the moment but I thought that was oneitis speaking and not my common sense so I decided to forget about her .

That went quite well for more than a month
I minimized contact and spinned more plates and basically had a lot of fun doing it. None of the girls compared to her in personality or depth but they were cute so it helped for a while.

But then I started noticing she went out of her way to talk to me was and was always really happy to see me.
I started kinoing her a bit and she seemed real receptive to it we started seeing each other more often outside school again with more kino etc. Then she suddenly told me out of the blue she had a crush on me for months now(Yes I did feel like an idiot:eek: ).
I told here I was attracted to her too(Actually I was head over heels with her but I decided to leave that out:p ) but that I wouldn’t fool around with her behind her BF’s back out of respect for him.
She understood and we didn’t speak about it again

A week later she calls me really upset and practically begs me to come over.
When I arrived she told me she left her BF because she didn’t want to stay with him when she was in love with someone else. I took that as an indicator that her IL was through the roof( I mean I did not promise her anything).
So I kissed her and had a really nice afternoon(You know making out general cool stuff :D )


A few days after that she tells me she knows I’m seeing a lot of girls and she wants us to be exclusive.
I was(and still am) madly in love with this girl so I agree.

You’re probably wondering what the hell my problem is?
Getting at it

Well whenever were alone and I try to go beyond just making out she get’s really defensive pushes my hands away etc.
I did not make a big deal out of it thought it was because she was a bit younger etc.
So I just regularly kept trying to escalate it when we were alone.
She then suddenly flips and tells me she feels vulnerable when I do that and that I shouldn’t be so Impatient.

I raise an eyebrow

She apologizes for flipping but tells me she finds it difficult to trust a guy like that because her first boyfriend raped her.
I told her that was horrible and I felt bad for her but I’m not that guy are you saying you don’t trust me?
To which she answered No I don’t give me some time
I said I didn’t like to hear that she didn’t trust me but that I respect her decision.

That was more than a month ago

And I know for a fact that she did have sex with her ex bf(not that I mind but why am I different?)

Apart from that she is nearly perfect(as far as I can tell)
But I can’t rid myself of the idea that this is a mind game and I’m falling for it like a AFC.
I would really like some advice on this
Am I being the idiot here ?

Would really like some advice from an experienced Don

I do not have a bunch of time to add all my thoughts unfortunatly, so i will say this: Be wary of ANY WOMAN WHO SAYS THEIR EX RAPED THEM. I am not saying it is or isnt true, but unless you saw it or its on record and he has been proven guilty, please be very careful.
 

frisco

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Tips for the bedroom
# 1 never put your hand down her pants use you knee to stimulate her vigina till you feel her getting wet through her pants
#2 Explore her body with kisses touching places that aren't just ass tits and puss, Kiss her stomach neck chin ect
#3 If you girl is playing goody goody in the sack and wont put out wait untill she starts kissing you then say "quit it babe your turning me on" "god your teasing me so bad right now" all in a ****y type way, continue kissing her and run her hand over your **** let her rub it then say "your making me so hard right now" all while kissing her neck lips ect.. "your so ****ing sexy"

The concept of this is stimulating her mind so much that when you do touch her *****, all that tension is felt by her she rationalizes why am i letting him do this he thinks im sexy, cute,..

Your playing it off right so far, dont get angry theres no reason too, And rememmber to use knees to touch her thighs ***** and stimulate her that way before you think about your hands good luck
 
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