New Girl -- can't read her

[guitaronfire411]

Been a while. I have gotten very rusty because of my school schedule and then marriage.

Everything leading up to my marriage was fantastic. I was so happy, felt my life was back on track after finishing school, etc. Then I found out my wife wasn't medicated, almost got thrown into jail, then got left on the last 7 months of my lease. Enough about that though..

It's been 9 months since I saw my separated wife. She is so ill that is already engaged to some desperate guy who has no idea that he is in a world of pain. (undiagnosed/unmedicated wife)

But this thread is not about my separated wife. It is about a "new" girl that used to be on my Facebook. I said something and got her angry but she unblocked me recently so I thought I'd go for it.

she used to invite me out to her events in town but stopped after i didnt go twice. (I had school and had just broken off with my girlfriend-then-later-wife, so I didn't want to complicate things or be a douche)

With the 'new' girl, I have been lingering on her Twitter account but we have never met in person. i didnt want to scare her away but she is very, very attractive and has many men after her! i'm 34 and she is 28.

i asked her when she would be in town next and she said later this month. i told her i'd be there and she Liked it. i have apologized for not meeting her 1-3 years ago when she had invited me out. i told her i'd defintely be at her event and she said that was awesome. she doesn'y ask me questions so i'm not sure if she is interested anymore? I said i was looking forward to meeting her.

I would assume she knows the game better than most girls since she has travelled the world and been with DJ-ish boyfriends before. Other people say she is very friendly. We have never formally met but I can't tell if she is eager to meet me or not? She doesn't ask me questions which bothers me but yet she knows almost nothing beyond that I exist.

 

[lizardking82]

I would say "forget" her until she hits town and deal with other women, but I don't know how comfortable you are doing that or what way you would like to do that.

 

[AlphaNate]

Get off her social media. Do you have her phone number?

 

[GuitarOnFire]

I don't have her number yet. After replying to her posts on social media, I moved away to asking her about the tickets directly over Facebook. But the conversation just stopped after I said I would be there. Usually I try to build rapport first so it feels weird going for the number without her knowing I'm not some crazy fan.

For some reason, I find it weird asking for her number when I haven't built any rapport with her in-person. I view online dating sites differently than Facebook cold turkey.

She hasn't openly tried to talk to me which I guess is what is bothering me the most... Unless she is playing it cool.

Not sure how to ask for the number without having met her.

 

[AlphaNate]

it feels weird going for the number without her knowing I'm not some crazy fan.

If you think there's a 1% chance you might be an orbiter, you're 100% an orbiter.

Learn from this one and move on.

 

[JohnChops]

I don't understand this. You're stalking a girls social media and haven't gotten her number. Then when you mentioned you'd be where she is, she stopped replying. That's simple AW tactics. You're just a piece of validation for her.

Also, member apologise for not being able to meet up with her, who cares, she sure does not.


Meet girls around you, not in different States/countries.

 

[sazc]

You sound confused. Women with high IL don't make a situation confusing for a man.

She considers you a fan. She is not interested. Move on.

 

[GuitarOnFire]

You sound confused. Women with high IL don't make a situation confusing for a man.

She considers you a fan. She is not interested. Move on.

I appreciate all the replies so far. Still recovering from the shock of being single again.

My plan was to flirt with her and see if she shows interest. Attend her event with a buddy, have a good night out and if anything happens, that's great. If not, at least I finally tried to meet her and cannot say I didn't try and get a date.

Edit: When I talked to her about tickets, she responded right away. I thought that was unusual. Most girls I know don't usually reply that fast.

 

[sazc]

@GuitarOnFire are the tickets free? Idk, she really may just be responding to you because you are anther ++ in her fan bucket. Proceed with caution and guard your emotions.

 

[NSX-R]

Look . If you want to do anything with her , simply take her number and arrange a date with her .
If she's negative about it , move on and stop putting her on the pedestal. It's not so hard as it seems . Grab your balls and offer her a date . Use it as an excuse on the times when she invited you and you couldn't come .

If she's so hot as you say , she also has a lot of orbiters . Right now you are also an orbiter yourself . Promote yourself into something else .

 

[MrOctober]

You HAVE to get her number.

I feel like the setup wasn't strong. Your on the chase. I say... message her once more give her your number and tell her to hit you up when she's around for drinks and go ghost hard

 

[GuitarOnFire]

Yeah, I usually don't go and meet someone at their event. I did once and the girl was really bottom-heavy and nasty. I was glad she was never around to hangout and started to flake on a simple 2nd date. It sounds bad but I wanted to get back into going on dates.

The tickets aren't free. They are $15 or whatever you can afford. I feel like if a girl invites you out and she has never met you it's because you're interesting to her. I just wasn't sure if she would still be interested years after-the-fact.

She is that popular and attractive. That's why I wanted to say I wanted to meet her. I don't want to rush and ask for her number when she has never even met me before. I find that strange. Maybe it isn't?

I added her on Facebook again today and she immediately liked some photos of my cats. So, I liked a picture of hers back from last night.

Would it be weird to ask for a girl's number without ever meeting them in person or talking to them much??

 

[GuitarOnFire]

I would be interested in hearing what others thought about what went down.

My buddy who said he would "be there" and really hyped up helping me never showed. I really let him know how ****ty that was. I showed up at the end of the second girl's act and just managed to catch the girl I liked for the entire set.

Anyways.. showed up, it was kind of awkward being a lone wolf and been a long time since I had to fly solo. I started to chat up people, build up value after getting in crappy. Talked to 3 or four people for a few minutes. I felt really awkward so I am sure it was kind of amplified a bit -- the one guy in the room that knew no one and the music was too loud to hear 100% of what people were saying.

I saw her act, she might have seen me in the crowd. I walked up to her tarot booth after talking to people, excusing myself because I told a different girl that I have wanted to meet this girl for 2-3 years. She understood and said, '2 or 3 years?? Definitely! Go and talk to her!' (I think)

She recognized me. I kind of stand-out with Adidas jacket, my blonde hair and blue eyes in a sea of people dressed more casually in semi-dress clothes. I like the athletic-sporty look. It suits my solid frame.

She was very smiley, lots of great eye contact, lots of smiles, ... think she even touched my hand when she was doing my tarot reading. I picked out a Sword, Hazard and one other card. It was loud but she said I had something I needed to resolve, which definitely didn't seem promising! I joked/flirted that maybe I needed to meet her after so many years of missing her 1-2 events she invited me to?? She thought that was genuinely funny and cute.

I must have escalated too quickly because I moved behind the counter because the music was too loud. She broke the conversation and said she wanted to watch the show kind of worriedly after I started talking to her about her pet snake and taming it. I thought, 'oh ****, I am creeping by accident.' So I apologized and said it was great to meet her and walked away to watch the show. I felt kind of lame because I had given all of my loose change to the girl passing by so I looked like a cheap-skate even though I had donated. After a few more performers, I was pretty tired and knew I needed to leave. I worked out earlier that day and was annoyed that I hadn't tried to get the number.

I didn't have any change so I got out a $20 and walked back over to her. Another guy was there so I just waited for a second and I guess he finished his tarot reading and I said something like, 'Hey, I got some cash out for the donation.' Gave her the $ 10 and she was blown away. You could really see her eyes and whole body be shocked that someone was donating that much. She really appreciated it. She asked if I was leaving.. I said yes...but I said that I'd wanted to stay in touch.

I asked,'I have to go but I'd like to catch up later. Do you have a phone number?'

She then said,'I don't give out my number.'

I didn't want to leave a ****ty impression because she is on my Facebook and is well known in my hometown and beyond. I figured there was no point in being an ass.

She must have seen my disappointment on my face and i said,'I understand. Well, it was nice meeting you regardless.'

At this point she gave me a light hug over the counter-top, so i patted her back lightly. My back is rock solid so girls usually love getting hugs from me.

After I said, 'If you change your mind then you know how to reach me. (Smiles)"

I think she wasn't expecting the classy way of handling it. I later sent her a message wishing her a good night with a smiley over Facebook, which she read and did not respond to. She did not remove me from Facebook and, after years of self-control, I kept her on mine too.

Are PUAs really that rare? Some people say the direct openers are a quick way to wipeout but I have always been a believer that they show boldness/aggressiveness/confidence. They also show that you have other options and are ballsy as hell.

I know her birthday is in a month but I don't think I will get an invite to it. She knows a lot of people and is definitely a 8.5/10 IMO. She could have almost any guy but is somehow single...

My buddy told me the other day that he knows a local burlesque dancer who sleeps with a few men and women...