It is very sad to see the transition in society. I found this page in 2002 after a break up. It literally opened my eyes to what females actually desire. I took baby steps and built on the principles the OG’s preached back in the early 2000’s. I was never into PUA stuff but trying to improve all aspects of my personality and skills related to the game. 21 years later at 42 years old I am financially secure, recently married with a rock solid prenup, continuing to move up in my career... have an amazing circle of close friends.
i want to shake the black pills and tell them do the inner work... don’t even care about females or getting laid...get ripped, make money, become socially competent, get a great social network, build a plan for your life and work towards that!!!! Then you will find the game changes.... the women are a bonus to a squared away life.
I got a pm back in 02 or so from one of the legends on this site. His words were simple “ if you build it... they will come”. I find the black pills have zero patience... “ I have been working out 6 weeks now... and nothing”. It takes years.....just keep improving
I think patient is severely underrated.
Everyone wants a quick fix. But i really love this post. Its sounds scary when uiu say women are a byproduct. Men want to secure a good woman first ,and ise tyat as inspiration to get a better life ,work harer ect.
I agree though.(physical) Fitness is a good example. Would you like to date a land whale who promises you she will hit the gym after you put a ring on her finger? Or rather a womam who prepared for "meeting you " years prior, and now she is ready to go.
Some of the aforementioned are banging landwhales though,
I tried it once to kill a dryspell..wasn't a good experience tbh.
Pushed for an ltr,which i I obviously declined. ..Eventually she had enough of my wishy washy shyte , and she had new bf two weeks later.
A LAND WHALE !
The majority of men are still blue pilled in their ideologies toward romantic relationships.
Red pilled and black pilled men are still a minority.
In the last 7-10 years, the growth in the black pill ideology has exceeded the growth in the red pill ideology.
Male experiences in the mating marketplace continue to get worse and worse. That's why the more pessimistic black pill ideology is growing faster than the red pill.
The red pill seemed to more closely associated with Generation X in the United States. A lot of either red pill or pickup artists came out of Gen X. Roosh, Heartiste, Mystery, Neil Strauss, and Rollo Tomassi are all Gen X'ers. Roosh was the closest to a Millennial as he was born in 1979 and the earliest Millennials are from 1981/1982 depending on the source. For the next sentence, I'll use the Pew Research definition of Millennial (1981-1996 births).
With Millennials, the first half (1981-1988) has more of a red pill/black pill split among those who have made the leap from blue pill whereas the second half (1989-1996) seems to be more black pill. I'm from the first half of the Millennial generation. I am probably closer to red pill than black pill but I admit that the black pill is growing and I can see the valid reasons behind the growth.
All Millennials have had to deal with a lot of negative experiences. Millennials are the first large generation (Gen X is a smaller generation) to be worse off than their parents in terms of financial metrics in the USA and most other Western nations. A lot of men's sexual worthiness is tied to economic factors. Millennials were not the first generation to deal with the effects of rising feminism/careerism in the dating market, but the feminism that Millennials and Gen Z'ers have experiences has grown more toxic since the 1960s-1980s Second Wave Feminism led most notably by Gloria Steinem. A lot of technology transformed the mating marketplace during the Millennials' teen to young adult years from online dating websites, to social media, smartphones, and swipe apps. All of those things have worsened the mating marketplace. This all happened while Millennials were the generation most affected by the late 2000s/early 2010s recession (mostly affecting the first half of Millennials). 2020 was also not kind to Millennials either.
If you consider the Millennial experience, it's no wonder why the more pessimistic black pill has grown. It is consistent with their experiences. Gen Z males seem to have their experiences building off of the more negative experiences of Millennials.
Good point. I agree, most men are blue pill with redpill tendencies due culture, upbringing ect. I am Caribbean and that's tye perfect example. Every man acts like he's Alpha , yet they stilll live by bluepill ideologies.
Being redpill is the most unnatural and difficult thing to do. The reason I'm somewhat against plain blackpill ideology is because it never offers a solution. Good example is r/exredpill. Thats a completely different pill ,I don't even know which color. I geuss its a "return to the bluepill". But that's a space where mostly bitter women welcome you back and murmur redpill fecked you up.
Real redpill spaces and sites like this are rare.
