New EU law

[john_x]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
john...I would guess that the law, as it relates to sexual harassment is likely more geared towards places where there are women employed.

Would you feel comfortable in a job where there were pictures of naked men everywhere? Or worse yet, pictures of two naked men touching each other?

I'm guessing you'd probably find it kinda offensive.

I don't think it's really about insecurity as it is a case of women not viewing those pictures as something they really want to see all around them.

I'm not insecure at all, but I wouldn't want to work someplace where there were pictures that kinda grossed me out all over the wall, either.

Women don't find pictures of other women naked and posed in a sexual way to be appealing. The best way for you to understand why it bothers a lot of women is to imagine those same kind of pictures with men instead and what you'd think about it.

Would you feel comfortable in a job where there were pictures of naked men everywhere? Or worse yet, pictures of two naked men touching each other?

bloody good point!!

BUT i wouldt find that as a form of sexual harrasment,, just ****ing akward,, and would not think i was being harrased in anyway,, on the other hand if i was insicure about it,, then i would see it as that
i undertsand that females dont like seeing this sort of thing,,and as you said your self, it bothers you but not in a harrasing way

if it was men's poster every where id just leave, can females not just do this?
why the need to pass a law on it
not that you have the answer to that,, just my view

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by john_x
Would you feel comfortable in a job where there were pictures of naked men everywhere? Or worse yet, pictures of two naked men touching each other?

bloody good point!!

BUT i wouldt find that as a form of sexual harrasment,, just ****ing akward,, and would not think i was being harrased in anyway,, on the other hand if i was insicure about it,, then i would see it as that
i undertsand that females dont like seeing this sort of thing,,and as you said your self, it bothers you but not in a harrasing way

if it was men's poster every where id just leave, can females not just do this?
why the need to pass a law on it
not that you have the answer to that,, just my view

In my own opinion, in MOST cases, sexual harassment laws are unnecessary. However, there are cases where it's necessary and should be used. Personally, I've had many incidents happen to me where I could have filed sexual harassment cases against coworkers and even supervisors or bosses. I don't need those kinds of safeguards because I know how to stand up for myself and say, "Bug off, I'm not interested."...and if that doesn't work, I do know how to make someone who chooses to harass me feel mighty small publicly...IF I need to do that. That works quite well. Not all women are strong that way, though. Ironically, women who embrace feminism tend to be rather weak and just use these laws to feel emopowered and strong. But the fact they need these laws and protections to fall back on just proves they feel and are weak. It's all a facade...and that's what men need to recognize. You're getting all worked up over and aggressive towards these women who only seek these kinds of laws and protections because they are vulnerable and don't want you to know it. They fear you, as men.

So...when you try to fight feminism in the way many of you are trying to fight it all you are doing is reinforcing those stupid fears those feminists have.

About the posters...there shouldn't have to be laws about them. In fact, ideally...everyone would just be considerate enough to recognize that not everyone shares their tastes and likes. Why not save such posters for their bedroom walls or, as someone else mentioned...on the lids of their toolboxes where they can enjoy it without subjecting everyone who doesn't share that enjoyment to such posters?

 

[john_x]

i see, in such a way i never have before i may add.
and most of these law's will not affect men unless there doing somthing they shouldt be anyway come to think of it.
taking a poster down int gona hurt anyone

just wundering to my self how far they are going to take it,
rember seeing (on another talk show) a group of females protesting and talking about felames going to prison,, because the number of them going has gone up over the last few year's.

they where saying if a women commites a crime she should be punished,but not in the same way as a man because women are diffent to men,, (there for they should not go to prison some other punishment should be given to them)
clearly this idea never went anywhere.

another one i seen was it should be some sort of punishable crime to call a grown women a girl,, because a girl is not in control of her emotions etc,, and this is taken as some sort of insult,,
yet again, this never went anywhere

just wundering what happens the day laws like these are passed,, which is possible in the future at the rates things are moving

will this effect me? no
why should i care? i dont know
infact do i care? no
so why am i posting this i dont know

infact this **** will never effect me, its not worth wasting the energy caring

 

[Wyldfire]

And now you understand why I repeatedly point out that all this negativity from the anti-feminist crowd is not a good thing.

In my 39 years I've yet to see a law pass that wasn't passed for a good reason. Yes, there are messages society sends men that are negative, and you absolutely need to fight those, but how you fight them is the key. You should not ever feel guilty for being a man. It's natural for you to be sexually geared...you can't help that and should NEVER allow anyone to make you feel guilty for it. That's the main message, but there are others. If you resist those and pass THAT kind of info and influence on, then you are doing a good thing. But don't take it too far or seek out reason to feel like a victim. That robs your manhood worse than believing those stupid messages society sends men because it makes you act like those kooky feminists.

As long as you show people the same level of respect you would expect from them and don't violate others while not allowing yourself to be violated you'll be in good shape.

And honestly...getting yourself all embroiled in the negativity of battling feminists like feminists isn't very good for the mind and soul. It'll f*ck you up big time...and finding happiness in life will be pretty damn difficult.

I argue with the radical anti-feminists because I know where they are headed and if they really want to go there...so be it...but they shouldn't be taking the young guys with them. I'm not trying to be a biotch...I'm trying to save some of you from needless unhappiness and a mindset that's just going to hurt you in the long run.

 

[Anomalous]

Re: Re: New EU law

Originally posted by The_Shezzler

Sarge On...

Amen to that.

 

[MetalFortress]

Either someone post a freaking news link, or mods lock this thread.