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Hi im a new south east asian to this don juan board , im about 5'8 to 5'9 165lbs all muscle . I look like tyrese and a cross between the lead singer of trapt . Anyways my story goes I live in a midwest college town and its predominately white. How do you get white girls. I want to do this to prove a point to my white pals who think im a token asian guy that gives advice just to talk to . I want to compete with these so called white pals of mine and win their so called caucasion women to prove to them im the better man because they think im inferior to them and it pisses me off. They dont take me seriously when it comes to women and a lot of times i get so flustered because im modest and reserved but very handsome and women give me interest signs all the time. should i just stop hanging with them and pick them up solo. Or should i beat them in their own game while they see me in action. I can't stand having my two fugly white friends saying this and that and leaving me out of the equation but deep down I know that I was the only one that the girls in bars and elsewhere find interesting. get where im coming from? It's not even about the white girls anymore its about winning over my pride because of my ego inflated fugly white pals. Any advice?
 

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Originally posted by naturalzen
Any advice?
No matter what, please DON'T read the bible...:rolleyes:
 

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When your ego and your pride is on the line you are flirting with disaster. This site is about getting women and janks. Now people here are going to tell you to not care what other people think, and they're right. That will be the biggest roadblock in your way I'd take it.

You are who you are and you date who you want to date. I am asian, yet my last LTR was a chick with a real southern family. And that lasted a long while because I grew up embracing southern culture and that's a part of who I am. Just take the attitude of dating a chick because she's attractive regardless of race. I'm sure you're ego will be satisfied from a few good bonings and that should silence your friends anyway. ~Zappa
 

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oh i have nothing against white folks in general but in my city i live in alot of them act cowardly and submit to superior black men in social settings . Asians are a dime a dozen and usually are studious and dont give a rats ass about women. White dudes are very obnoxious here and are really predicatable. One of my vietnamese friends whose my size walks in calm and collective maybe even a little passive and white dudes want to pick fights with him because they think hes weak... but on other days to prove a point how white dudes are ****ed in the head in my town the same vietnamese friend will walk in a bar or any social setting and act like a jerk or ******* and white dudes will bow down because they think just cause a asian is acting like this he has courage. little do they know he is faking being a jerk just to show me how white dudes are in my town. In the bar scenes the only race that picks on weaker men are whites. Blacks rarely cause trouble and they are the biggest of all. And you can play white dudes with a bluff card so bad by acting like a bad ass even when your not and they will leave you alone. It infuriates me that some white dudes are this way.
 

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you wanna prove to your friends because they think your inferior to them especially when it comes to women? Do do feel that way about yourself? If your answer is no then im sure that even if you can PU all the prettiest girls at your area, you haven't proven anything bc your actions are based on the foundation of what others think of you.
 

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Do not date white girls to prove a point. They are nothing special - they are just women. Just as you may be sick of Asian women sometimes as an Asian man, white guys are sick of white women too. They're all from the same emotional, neurotic, and generally psychotic species we call womanhood. But still, all men think that the grass is greener on the other side. Give up that line of thinking, coz it ain't that different.
 

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Dude, I'll be honest, you are at a disadvantage. I live in the city, and while I see white dudes dating asian chicks, rarely do I see the opposite. For a white girl to date and asian guy, she has to be realy open minded usually.

But I'll say when I do see an asian or indian guy with a white chick they are usually pretty confident looking, not bookish. And they usually lift a lot.

But just because you are at a disadvantage doesn't mean ****, you can still do it. When you are talking to girls you should really be a jerk, and give off the impression that you are not needy at all. Since you are asian I would say be really over the top with the sexual **** with these girls. If you can break the sterotype of the weak asian, you have a good chance of comming off as something different, and peak their interest.

But once again I say, lift a lot, eat a lot of red meat, and don't be mr. nice guy/funny guy. be the jerk.
 

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Interesting, Shot Callin.


I've found that the jerk routine depends on the individual. Some Asian guys can get away with it, but many can't. That's because society has firmly engrained ideas of Asian men as the trustworthy, safe, and predictable guy. So if an Asian guy decides to deviate from this expectation, the reactions are sometimes quite negative from women, and people in general. On the flipside, its quite expected for a black man to be a thug, a brute, an "animal", because people have prejudiced notions of how a black man "should be". I feel that they get away much more with a jerky attitude. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


And btw, are you of Asian descent yourself, or not? :)
 

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No I'm not asian at all, striaght up german/american. But my last roommate was korean/american and I watched that guy struggle a lot. He was a very cool dude, tried his best to lift a lot, but never got anywhere with women. The problem was that he is fighting against a sterotype, but he also fit it in some ways.

Honestly the guy was always laughing and smiling, and being mr nice guy. Cool as a drinking buddy, but not cool to girls.

When I say be the jerk, in my opinion that is not thugged out or too loud. To me the jerk is like russel crowe or Colin Farrell. Dude women love those guys because they act like they really don't give a ****.

I think if an asian tried to act thug girls would not like it. but if he is super confident/jerk it could be cool.
 

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naturalzen,

I understand you are probably outnumbered by whites in a place that isn't known for it's diversity--so you are feeling the racial tension. I know people from the mideast can be pretty blockheaded. And I also realize there is a racial stereotype against asian men in this country, perpetuated by society--that asian men are meek and studius. One of my closest friends, a korean-american guy was ranting to me last night that he wanted to change white and black women's perceptions of asian men, so he's trying to fvck black girls and blonde girls.

While I understand this feeling, you have to keep in mind that you can't be carrying rage around like that. It's going to destroy you AND your game. How would you feel if I, a white guy, said I wanted to grudge-fvck asian women to prove my dominance? I would sound pretty racist, don't you think?

To me, you sound like you have a major chip on your shoulder, and you just don't like white people. There are stupid white morons like you mentioned--I'll be the first to admit it, but hating all white dudes like that and thinking of dating as some competition with them is a childish attitude. You say these white guys are your so-called "friends", but in the same breath you badmouth them. It makes you come across like you're two faced. You're a far cry from your handle "naturalzen".

You'd have a MUCH better time picking up women with a positive attitude. Trust me, your rage will come through in subconsious ways and women will pick up on it and be repulsed by it. You need to be a fun guy who is enjoying life and not letting racial stereotypes affect you. That will be MUCH better for your game with these women.

You already have the look. You are tall and built. White women would see you as exotic--so yeah, I agree with you that tons of white women are probably feeling you. Use this to your advantage and let your game flow naturally. Don't be so insecure.

Jake
 

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im sorry im just frustrated. I mean I have to be twice as good as any regular white dude to get any looks and my life as a college student is good. I guess Im sick of being around caucasions all the time because thats all i see in Madison wi. Some caucasions are really open minded but most are fear based. I see white dudes act cowardly and give off assumptions too easily as I stated before with my vietnamese friend trying to prove a point to me how you can play the bluff card in social settings. Its like I have to walk around willing to throw down with white dudes for them to leave me alone. I can't be a gentleman because then they ll try to pick a fight because they think im weak.
 

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Hold up...

Your in Madison, WI...

I live a state over, and I've been to madison a lot (family).
I know that there's a lot of rich white suburbs around madison but the inner city is just like any other big city. You just gotta get away from the campus and any place that college people hang out and find yourself some good wisconson pu$$y. If the off campus scene ain't diverse enough in madison take a trip over to Milwaukee.

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Originally posted by naturalzen
Hi im a new south east asian to this don juan board , im about 5'8 to 5'9 165lbs all muscle . I look like tyrese and a cross between the lead singer of trapt . Anyways my story goes I live in a midwest college town and its predominately white. How do you get white girls. I want to do this to prove a point to my white pals who think im a token asian guy that gives advice just to talk to . I want to compete with these so called white pals of mine and win their so called caucasion women to prove to them im the better man because they think im inferior to them and it pisses me off. They dont take me seriously when it comes to women and a lot of times i get so flustered because im modest and reserved but very handsome and women give me interest signs all the time. should i just stop hanging with them and pick them up solo. Or should i beat them in their own game while they see me in action. I can't stand having my two fugly white friends saying this and that and leaving me out of the equation but deep down I know that I was the only one that the girls in bars and elsewhere find interesting. get where im coming from? It's not even about the white girls anymore its about winning over my pride because of my ego inflated fugly white pals. Any advice?

1. so you didn't like how I treated Jackie the wacky huh.

2. Why don't you post up your picture since you said you look like tyreese...LMFAO at that one...

3. 5 8 or 5 9...which is it...and that's not very tall either.

4. all muscle huh!

5. your just another asian with an insecure complex after all the jokes made about you guys by comedians.

6. your insecure and two faced..."because of my ego inflated fugly white pals."

7. me thinks your jackey with a new name now!!!

I won't bother actually reading your bust out post kid, but when you get some game and know how to pull pvssy give me a holla..

But before you do you better be able to back it with proof ie photo's...of you and your ho's or whatever you wanna call em

Sorry eggfoo...you played yourself!
 

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player you need to get a job. get a haircut and get a job you post on this forum like you own the website and are making money off it lol. your a bully.. and no i dont have a cam or scanner. im barely on my computer unlike some people hint hint.
 
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Originally posted by naturalzen
oh i have nothing against white folks in general but in my city i live in alot of them act cowardly and submit to superior black men in social settings . Asians are a dime a dozen and usually are studious and dont give a rats ass about women. White dudes are very obnoxious here and are really predicatable. One of my vietnamese friends whose my size walks in calm and collective maybe even a little passive and white dudes want to pick fights with him because they think hes weak... but on other days to prove a point how white dudes are ****ed in the head in my town the same vietnamese friend will walk in a bar or any social setting and act like a jerk or ******* and white dudes will bow down because they think just cause a asian is acting like this he has courage. little do they know he is faking being a jerk just to show me how white dudes are in my town. In the bar scenes the only race that picks on weaker men are whites. Blacks rarely cause trouble and they are the biggest of all. And you can play white dudes with a bluff card so bad by acting like a bad ass even when your not and they will leave you alone. It infuriates me that some white dudes are this way.

Dam foo...you got that hatred and insecurity thing worse than Jackie Wacky! All I am reading is white dudes this and white dudes that...and I'm so bad...

Let me see you...

step outta the dark.
 
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Originally posted by naturalzen
player you need to get a job. get a haircut and get a job you post on this forum like you own the website and are making money off it lol. your a bully.. and no i dont have a cam or scanner. im barely on my computer unlike some people hint hint.
That's not a good excuse mayne! I own a business like I tole you. I train heads like you! Now if you got some ho's then you would have your shyt taken care of.

So you busted out with nuthin huh...except your hatred of yourself! You think being asian is bad...try grown up in the 60's and 70's...now adays nicca's just don't know the truth except what they read in school books...racial prejudice is now dying down...so let's keep your hatred on the down low....

Be like zen!

that which you are seeking is causing you to seek it!
 

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player ive seen the type of women black dudes pull in bars and its not pretty i wouldnt bang em with your willy lol . also your tactics of argument on the internet are lame and you should be happy because I would not in a million years want to be in your position when im 40 lol. Jake is light years as well as pook where ever he is ahead of you and they probably aren't nailing broads left and right but you can gaurantee these guys are not ever ever gonna be in your position when they are 40 and neither am I.
 

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be like zen omg player you are the brightest dude I have ever met! lol. Your a winner in my book I like you sooo much player lol .mommy and daddy love you too lol. hahaha.
 
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Originally posted by naturalzen
player ive seen the type of women black dudes pull in bars and its not pretty i wouldnt bang em with your willy lol . also your tactics of argument on the internet are lame and you should be happy because I would not in a million years want to be in your position when im 40 lol. Jake is light years as well as pook where ever he is ahead of you and they probably aren't nailing broads left and right but you can gaurantee these guys are not ever ever gonna be in your position when they are 40 and neither am I.
Thank you for admitting that your an older member with a new name..

You claim to of just arrived but you know about pook and all that!

This is what I'm talking about with internet games....people need to step outta the dark and into the light so we can see who you are.

If you think I'm taking your bait above think again kid...I've faced way better than you. You don't even debate...you just name call...now that's lame.

You have no evidence...no claims...no justifications...

just an old member hinding out trying to re-invent himself....or worse...an old pissed off member who wants revenge...without destroying his current fake assed identity.

I am who I am...I'm not into re-inventing myself. At the pn I was zenmack because I had raised my macking to the level of zen.

when I quit macking women I became a player again...same name now as I've been for the past 8 months.

"when the student is ready the teacher will appear"

Oh if I were you I would take the zen off your screen name...there is nothing zen about you...and you have no knowledge of zen philosophies...

Another example of internet gooberizm...

I think you should be named:

eggfool

or

spongebob..

Pick one!
 
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