NEVER Get LJBF'd (Let’s just be friends) | The Best LJBF Destroyer 1/2

[Alanswer]

Note:

To prevent future confusion (as IGETIT):

THIS IS NOT A METHOD TO AVOID GETTING REJECTED (in general) NOR TO ATTRACT WOMEN.
This is a method to avoid getting LJBF'd, SPECIFICALLY.
Nothing will replace attraction, to create it.
Hope it's clear for everyone now.


How to avoid, prevent and counter the «LJBF» statement? Use the HmS Method.

There’s an easy way to avoid being tagged as a friend, to stay in the ‘potential lover’ category.

And with this really simple idea, she doesn’t have her say, at all.
You’ll never depend on HER (their) choice again. YOU will decide when and if it doesn’t bother you to be considered as a friend. You can always decide to play the seduction card later or if you want to be seen as a potential lover (not necessarily as a boyfriend) right from the start (better solution).

The other advantage of this method is that you can use it at any moment, even if she told you she wanted to just be friends already.
But to steer clear of confusion and/or be seen as a bit weak not having expressed your ideas sooner. You should make this statement as soon as you decide to hit on her.

So, you want to know what is it? It’s simple.
You just have to make her understand, clearly and without any ambiguity, that you don’t believe TRUE man-woman friendship to be possible.

That’s the « When Harry meets Sally » Method. (HmS Method) For those who don’t know the movie, it was starring Billy Crystal (Harry) and Meg Ryan (Sally). The main topic was men-women relationships including, of course, the (im)possibility (argued by Billy Crystal) of true friendship between members of opposite sex.

It’s really an indirect and effortless way to tell her you don’t wish to be her friend… So, guess what, she won’t see you as one. She won’t be able to use it as an excuse to turn you down either.

If you’re already in a situation where the girl expressed her preference for you to just be friends and only that, you can always decide to tell that it doesn’t work for you anymore.
The time constraint is important because you don’t want her to think that you have been lying (implicitly or not) to her by agreeing to be friends when, in fact, you were physically attracted since day one.
You can say that you thought it was a good thing or that you tried but now it doesn’t seem right. And then you can further explain it by introducing the HmS concept. You saw the film recently or you read an article on the subject… And it got you thinking.

As I said it’s clearly trickier but still a good way to (try to) express your true feelings for the first time. You have nothing to loose. Better to end a one-way (phony, imposed, unhealthy) friendship than continually being frustrated.
You may believe that seeing her as a friend is better than nothing… But really, think about it, you’ll be better off when you’ll face reality and start to open yourself to the world (plenty of nice beautiful girls out there)…

Did you like this article? Note that you can learn how to properly use the HmS method as an opener, to create attraction (get your approach going by enriching it) or as a much deeper topic, plus PUA routines (This simple concept really is a gold mine).

Alanswer / NO-ljbf.com

 

[Igetit!]

How to avoid, prevent and counter the «LJBF» statement? Use the HmS Method.


That’s the « When Harry meets Sally » Method. (HmS Method) For those who don’t know the movie, it was starring Billy Crystal (Harry) and Meg Ryan (Sally).

The "When Harry met Sally" method??? That's a method,lol?

Hmm. I always thought it was a movie. You mean this.....

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...twIwAw&usg=AFQjCNFRDv8UV8q34KkeEIZxdkxxSA8BiA



So you're saying that if you meet a woman,try to start a romantic relationship with her,but she turns you down using the "Let's Just Be Friends" speech,all you have to do is just explain to her this "men and women can't be friends" theory like this guy did in this movie here,then that'll change her mind and she'll want to date you,lol :crackup: :crackup:?



Alanswer......dude.....you CAN'T BE serious with this.


Alright dude....you got us. Ha,ha,jokes on us. Guess you're trying to get an early start on the April Fool's thing. Fine then,you got us.


Now let's look at this thing seriously....

There’s an easy way to avoid being tagged as a friend, to stay in the ‘potential lover’ category.

Now on this,I agree. But it's NOT this thing you prepose here.

Avoiding the friendzone is a piece of cake. All you have to do is make your interest known FROM THE BEGINNING,that's it. Just show your sexual side from the getgo,that in itself will insulate you from being labeled as a "friend" EVEN IF she rejects you.



Even if she turns down your advances,THE PART OF YOU THAT MAKES ADVANCES will have been the only side of you she's ever seen.

She'll have NO CHOICE but to see you as sexual because that's all you've even been with her in the SHORT TIME you've known her.

And with this really simple idea, she doesn’t have her say, at all.
You’ll never depend on HER (their) choice again. YOU will decide when and if it doesn’t bother you to be considered as a friend. You can always decide to play the seduction card later or if you want to be seen as a potential lover (not necessarily as a boyfriend) right from the start (better solution).

So here you're saying that if a guy meets a girl,fails to date her for WHATEVER REASON,but they continue being interacting with each other for how ever long,that at the moment of his choosing,all he has to do is just recite this "theory" to her,and he'll be back on her potential dating list again?


I disagree.

I believe that 99% of the time when a girl gives the LJBF thing (and I mean a girl who's single,available,and looking to date),it's because she feels no attraction to the guy.


And if he doesn't turn her on/make her feel any chemistry or attraction after interacting with her for a decent length of time,how is he reciting some theory supposed to suddenly make her wet? And on top of that,that discussion between "Harry" and "Sally" was LOGICAL.


Yeah,"technically" Harry was right,but being techincal and logically explaining this to a woman won't turn her on.

The other advantage of this method is that you can use it at any moment, even if she told you she wanted to just be friends already.

Well what I'd like to know is what all went down LEADING UP TO her deciding to LJBF you.


LJBF is a RESULT,a DESTINATION. It's a place that you END UP.

In other words,you STARTED OUT trying to get one place with a girl,made a wrong turn/bad decision somewhere,then found yourself somewhere you DIDN'T INTEND to go (the friendzone).



So whatever you said,did,or however you acted and behaved towards her PRIOR TO her LJBF speech.....that's what got you friendzoned. And I SERIOUSLY DOUBT that whatever you said,did,or the behavior that you showed that got you FZ'ed will "magically" be undone because of this theory you EXPLAIN to her.

But to steer clear of confusion and/or be seen as a bit weak not having expressed your ideas sooner. You should make this statement as soon as you decide to hit on her.

Now on this,I agree.

It’s really an indirect and effortless way to tell her you don’t wish to be her friend… So, guess what, she won’t see you as one. She won’t be able to use it as an excuse to turn you down either.

Well I agree and all,but dude,why would you have to explain the concept of "men and women can't be friends" to her to make her NOT SEE YOU as a friend?


Wouldn't simply asking her out accomplish the same thing? If I flirt with her,compliment her on how she looks,if she over-hears me talking about how "hot" some other girl looks,wouldn't all that SHOW HER I'm sexual?



Seems like you're trying to get guys to VERBALIZE that they're sexual to girls instead of simply BEING SEXUAL.

Note that you can learn how to properly use the HmS method as an opener,

Could you give an example of this? I'd like to see how this could be used as an opener. To me,saying this would seem like you're trying to "hint" to her you want to date her,but are afraid to just straight up tell her.

And if that's what she thinks,she may not pull out the LJBF thing to rejected you,but what difference will it make,rejection is rejection,she'll just find another way.

LJBF isn't THE ONLY arsenal women have to turn guys down,it's just one of the most popular/widely-known ones.


Your theory may make her avoid giving you the friends speech,but so what,she'll just use a different method to turn you down.

 

[Alanswer]

"IGETIT"... Didn't get it.

Where did you read this was a method to avoid REJECTION or a routine to create attraction???

I edited my post to add this:


THIS IS NOT A METHOD TO AVOID GETTING REJECTED (in general) NOR TO ATTRACT WOMEN.
This is a method to avoid getting LJBF'd, SPECIFICALLY.
Nothing will replace attraction, to create it.
Hope it's clear for everyone now.

So, a long post/reply only showing you didn't understand the purpose of this concept.

If you had taken the time (1s) to have a look at the site I refer to, you would have been able to read this on the home page (Our Purpose):

"Learn innovative and efficient PUA routines, tips, techniques and methods to be a successful seducer, not just a friend."

And if you had clicked the "read more" button, 3 sentences down there's this:

"BUT we also want to be there for any other man who wants to learn how to be successful in their romantic or sexual life.

What best way is there to achieve that than to empower you with the finest field-tested techniques and PUA routines there are?
Indeed, who better than PUA(s) to learn seduction and attraction from?"

The HmS method is just one more tool... But if used correctly, an efficient one.

Nevertheless, this idea WORKS!

There are plenty of reasons why you can be in the friend zone.
One of them can be simply because you weren't clear enough on your intentions or not showing them at all.

This will definitely clear things up.

Also, and even if she has other ways to turn you down, she won't be able to use this excuse if that's one of the first things you say to her (even as an opener).

Then, she will know exactly what you want. You won't waste your time. If she's not attracted or not in the mood, fine. you've got something else to do, somewhere else to go.

She won't think you're being friendly or simply having fun in a social not (physically) interested.

You would be surprised how many girls don't know what to truly expect from someone they just met (unless you're sarging her and playing the 'hard game' on her.)

Anyways...

You should go to my website to ask for the pdf file (10 pages) to understand how you can use this simple idea to open a set and create attraction.

Last, if you're already in the friend zone, this can help you too.
For the shy ones who don't know how to say they are into this girl.

To shift her image of you, to realize she could lose you, to understand that NOW things are gonna (must) change... Or end.

So, remember, there are 3 different situations:

1- You're already in the friend zone and she expressed the LJBF statement.

2- You're already in the friend zone and the LJBF statement is implicit but she never actually said it.

3- You just met her and want to be sure she knows (indirectly) this is not a social encounter. You don't want to make friends with her.

Each situation induces a different approach BUT you can use the HmS Method in ALL of them.
Not to avoid getting rejected, not to replace a good routine/way to create attraction... BUT to add to it.

I hope you get it now...


Alanswer.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

No. I agree with IgetIt.

This idea doesn't help anyone.

1- You're already in the friend zone and she expressed the LJBF statement.

2- You're already in the friend zone and the LJBF statement is implicit but she never actually said it.

3- You just met her and want to be sure she knows (indirectly) this is not a social encounter. You don't want to make friends with her.

In options 1 and 2, this isn't going to help me get the girl, so gives a crap what I say? She's already LJBF'd me, right? Now she knows that I can't be friends with her, which will result in me not calling her. Which is what I would have done anyway without the "harry met sallly" trick.

And in #3, once again, either there's attraction or there isn't. Me explaining to her that I won't be her friend isn't going to make her want me. So it just prevents her from putting me in the category of friend...which is the same as rejection anyway, so who cares....

Also, this is all just one big long ad for your site, which I'm not going to. If you came here, and provided good advice for a few weeks and THEN recommended your site, that's cool. But it's in poor taste to come here and start hyping your site right off the bat. A bad way to build a loyal fanbase.

 

[Alanswer]

Still don't get that's not an attraction method, nor an anti-rejection one.

It's a line you can use to make things clear... And to build attraction on. BUT it won't replace anything. It's a tool you can add to your game. That's all. To avoid misunderstandings.
I never said: "Use The HmS and get the girl".

Again, do you know how many guys are in this situation because they weren't clear enough but are not ready to hit on her like a PUA would do?
Just type LJBF or avoid LJBF on Google and you too will realize that fact.

If you want to, try to compare the HmS method with a BF destroyer. You may give her the best BF destroyer there is, if she's not into you or if she loves her BF, you won't get the girl (By the way that's not something I advise. There are plenty of single girls, no need to hit on those already 'taken'). Their purpose is NOT to create attraction, but to facilitate it or counter ASDs (or LMRs).

Still, type BF destroyer and you'll find a lot of them. THEY ARE A TOOL that is sometime needed. Nothing more but nothing less.

Do you understand now?

As for this:

Also, this is all just one big long ad for your site, which I'm not going to. If you came here, and provided good advice for a few weeks and THEN recommended your site, that's cool. But it's in poor taste to come here and start hyping your site right off the bat. A bad way to build a loyal fanbase.

I understand the way you feel.

BUT the fact is I (with friends) have a website (a new one) and I see no harm in making this fact known.
I try to give advices and tips (read the other posts I made), to contribute. Really.

In my precedent post (on this thread) I used the quotes to make my point clearer, that's all.

But, still, I understand it can be misinterpreted.
I don't come here to put an ad and go. I'm here to participate because I'm (very) interested in the topic of seduction and men-women relationships... and I try to help. No need to question that.

I'm what you call a "natural" and I started to read PUA material recently. I found out that most of their routines and methods I used them already. I also realized that many guys (a lot more than I thought) were having difficulties simply to approach women.

So, I just simply said to myself I'll try to do this on the side and help who I can. What is wrong in trying to get some traffic while doing it? I'm upfront with it and there's nothing wrong here.

 

[Jeffst1980]

I appreciate your intentions of providing free content from your website...no shame in promoting yourself.


I think you may be a bit too caught up in "game," though, and should probably drop the PUA lingo and acronyms and focus on the stuff that worked for YOU.

The tip you gave wasn't an LJBF destroyer...it was more like a way to start an argument with an uninterested woman. Or, a way to end a friendship in kind of a crybaby way.

I don't think there is ANYTHING you can say to reverse such a call, but I think a better alternative would be to say something like, "we'll see...I'm very charming" to at least demonstrate some confidence and show that you are not bothered by rejection.

As an opener, it isn't really effective because it looks like you're just beating around the bush. She probably knows you're interested if you're opening her, anyway.

Igetit's post was right on. I think you should drop this particular routine from your site, but I'd be happy to hear some of the other ones.

 

[Alanswer]

I couldn't answer you yesterday because of the "10 posts in 24 hours rule".

I think you may be a bit too caught up in "game," though, and should probably drop the PUA lingo and acronyms and focus on the stuff that worked for YOU.

I am not and never was in the ‘game’, as I said I’m a ‘natural’. It’s just when I heard about the Mystery PUA show on VH1 that I even became aware of the existence of PUAs and the ‘Game’. It was simply life for me…

Now, on the other hand, I know a lot more on the subject and I’ve been able to analyze my own behavior and ways of seduction (not really routines as I try to be truthful with each and every girl I meet) in a much more efficient manner.

The tip you gave wasn't an LJBF destroyer...

Yes it is. She won’t be able to tell you LJBF (if she never said it before but you feel she could. Or because YOU wanna be clear right from the start.).
Or this excuse becomes obsolete as soon as you tell her the HmS concept.
That’s the exact definition of a LJBF destroyer.
So, you’ve destroyed de facto and implicitly the LJBF statement…
But not a potential or previous rejection of course… This would be the purpose of an ATTRACTION method.
Still, remember that this post is only the first of a 2 parts article. In the second part, I focus more on attraction and seduction.

BUT you may get her to (re)think the way she sees you only by saying you don't believe in man-woman friendship and why.
And it can be a fun indirect way, to tell her you’re indeed hitting on her…
If you add some proper tease, push-pull and smile it can be very good because confidence is implicit.
You need to have balls to open a girl by saying: « I’m hitting on you » or « I want you » , right?
Well, that’s a more subtle way to say just that.

it was more like a way to start an argument with an uninterested woman.

If you go and approach only women you think are already interested in you, you won’t meet as many as you could… And it’s not DJ at all, it’s AFC attitude.
It sounds to me like you don’t approach many women then…

Also, what woman is interested in you before to know you?? Beside the good looking guy who’s got his looks for him. And even so, that sure ain’t enough.

You can use it as an opinion opener, a direct opener, a situational opener...
So, unless you're telling me that openers are useless... It can be a really good one.

Or, a way to end a friendship in kind of a crybaby way.

I don't think there is ANYTHING you can say to reverse such a call, but I think a better alternative would be to say something like, "we'll see...I'm very charming" to at least demonstrate some confidence and show that you are not bothered by rejection.

Now, you’re just being funny.
So, it’s kind of a looser behavior to man up and tell her (directly or indirectly):
« You know I don’t wanna be your friend, if it causes us to don’t see anymore, so be it ».

But it’s Alpha to tell a girl who just rejected you (so you think, I’ll explain why it may be wrong) ESPECIFICALLY because you did NOT charm/seduce her:
« I’m very charming. »

… Right.

As an opener, it isn't really effective because it looks like you're just beating around the bush. She probably knows you're interested if you're opening her, anyway.

So, ok there you say it... No opener is useful then, because as soon as you approach a woman she knows what you want, right?

I think you should drop this particular routine from your site,

No, thx.

but I'd be happy to hear some of the other ones.

Hope so.

To conclude, you seem to think, as IGetIt, that if a girl LJBF you or if you’re in the friend zone (implicit LJBF) there’s nothing you can do about it. She placed you in that box and that ‘s your world now (with her of course.)

Well, you’re completely wrong.

There are plenty of examples when a girl might LJBF you BUT still be interested/attracted.

1- LJBF is some kind of (sh1t-)test. To see how you’ll react.

2- Because you’re (and also her emotional response, she may feel like she shouldn‘t be falling for you so fast -- e.g. some minutes ---) and tries to slow you (as well as herself) down.

3- When she feels like you’re a player and tries to see if you’re really interested in HER. And for that she’d like you to know her and her to know you better before to make out or have sex.

Or she can be not that much into you because you said or did something that turned her off BUT you still have your chances IF you know how to play it by doing some damage control.

Or because YOU are the one acting like a friend without realizing it, and it would only take for you to make yourself verbally, but more importantly, non- verbally clear on your intentions……….

And so on…

So, plenty of reasons to use a LJBF destroyer or ‘preventer’. And, your mistaken opinion aside, this is the best one.

 

[Iceberg]

And so on…

So, plenty of reasons to use a LJBF destroyer or ‘preventer’. And, your mistaken opinion aside, this is the best one.

I don't think they're mistaken.

It just seems weird. Okay, so telling her that i don't believe that men and women can be friends eliminates her "LJBF" response. But it doesn't eliminate the emotions that led her to that response. You're just taking away her ability to use a certain group of words. "LJBF" becomes "I don't like you" or "no" or "I don't know. Lets talk later".

It's like you go on a job interview and you tell the company, "I don't want to hear 'We'll get in touch'. I want to know if I got the job right now."

Okay. So you eliminated their ability to give you a vague, brush off answer. You'll get an immediate yes or no. But it doesn't make you a more desirable candidate. And they were going approve of you or reject you regardless of whether you had said that anyway.

Even in the scenarios you mentioned....If LJBF is a sh*t test, then I back off or I come on stronger to see if she rejects a more physical escalation. I don't need to sit down and give a lecture about my beliefs on the male-female dynamic.

If it's an emotional response to moving too fast, still...telling her that I don't believe in friendships with women isn't going to make her say, "Oh, Iceberg! I never thought of it that way!" Once again, I'd either back off or come on stronger.

If she thinks I'm a player....same thing. "I think we should just be friends, Iceberg." Okay, at this point I can either agree. (Assuming that she's either useless or, that I can make her jealous through going cold for a bit.) OR I play along, invite her over to my place, and see if I can escalate...to see if she's serious about the "friends" thing.

None of these situations really lend themselves to a "I don't believe men and women can be friends" discussion.

Hey man, I know it's just a small tip and not worthy of such debate. But whatever...we're debating it. And in summary, telling her that men and women can't be friends just takes away her ability to call you "friend". It doesn't make her more or less attracted to you. It just removes the words "Lets just be friends" from the discussion. And really, there end up being other ways for the girl to get that point across.

 

[Alanswer]

Again, and I don't see why it's so difficult to understand, here, in this thread I don't speak about attraction or I don't give a routine (that's in the second part of this article).

The HmS here is only a way to remove ANY idea of friendship she can have (with me). Not only to prevent that particular type of rejection.
It's an 'all or nothing' strategy. Or she's attracted (because of the ATTRACTION routines and charming behavior one can have) or she's not. BUT she will NEVER consider me as a friend (again), period.

That's half the purpose of a LJBF destroyer. The other half is attraction and you can get that if you read the second part or use (good) pua methods (not only a 10 pages article but more like one or several books) to SEDUCE her.

So, don't expect from the HmS something that it can't provide or replace: AN ATTRACTION METHOD/ROUTINE.

As for the examples I gave, they were cited to make people understand that LJBF doesn't always equal rejection per se. That's all. So, it may don't take much to overcome it.

If a woman is interested in you and she has only 2 choices (all or nothing), she'll think about it twice before to reject you. Because she knows she'll lose you completely. There's no compromise possible. She'll have to take the 'risk'... If she wants to see you that is.

If you have one sentence or one topic that can guarantee to "get the girl" I'm curious to know what it may be...
If not, well, why do you ask this topic, sentence (man-woman friendship isn't possible) to do just that for you???
Did I advertize that somewhere?

NO. It's a new tool and, I repeat, a good one.

Also, you guys seem to think that a man-woman friendship is ALWAYS a failed seduction attempt (a rejection) from the guy, the girl or both... Is that really so?

They're friends by default, not by choice... Well, the need for the HmS is even higher than I thought then...

 

[Iceberg]

They're friends by default, not by choice... Well, the need for the HmS is even higher than I thought then...

Sidenote: The whole HmS thing...If you're trying to create and use a new piece of terminology, basing it off some romantic comedy from the 80's probably isn't the best way to get a group of young men to latch onto it. It's a bit outdated.

Next thing we'll have someone come along talking about the "Scarlett O'Hara method".

 

[Alanswer]

Right...

 

[Jeffst1980]

Hey man-- not trying to discredit you or anything- just saying that I think you may be mistaken on the utility of this one. It seems a few others agree, and we gave our reasons why. Do you honestly believe that all of us are wrong, and that you are the only one that can see things clearly?

Part of the reason that this is a FORUM is so that we can bring new ideas to the table and discuss them. If you come on here as a guru, you need to expect that people will challenge the parts that don't agree with their own experiences. You can write off the viewpoints of others if you are so inclined, but ultimately, I think your business would benefit if you kept an open mind when visiting this forum. There are plenty of intelligent, experienced posters on here, and most of us are happy to give our advice freely.

 

[Alanswer]

I appreciate and understand that.
That's one the main reason I post on a forum: To get feedback.
We, all of us, present arguments and see what happens.

In this case, I think everything boils down to the fact that you believe this first part of the HmS method, to be an attraction/seduction routine... Which is not. The second part is BUT this is not the main goal of this LJBF Destroyer.

I hope it's clearer now after all the (counter-)arguments I gave.

 

[Alanswer]

Addendum - How to get out of the friend zone

Don’t admit FEELINGS for her, just tell her you want more than just friendship and/or you find her attractive, that’s all . Don’t develop. If she asks you what you mean, just tell her you’re a man and men are attracted to cute and smart girls…

If you already expressed your true feelings to her it becomes trickier. You thought you had nothing to lose… And you were right!
Better to end a one-way (phony, imposed, unhealthy) friendship than continually being frustrated. You may believe that seeing her as a friend is better than nothing… But really, think about it, you’ll be better off when you face reality and start to open yourself to the world (plenty of nice beautiful girls out there)… Instead of being locked up in a depressing and windowless box.

So, now, what you need to do is to put your money where your mouth is and… break contact with her. I mean it. Completely remove her out of your life (for a while at least, something like a month.)
Don’t worry, you’ll make your come back. We keep in mind that the goal is to convert this ‘friendship’ into an affair or real relationship. But it will be on YOUR terms and you will have shown you’re willing to walk away.
Even better (for the reasons we mentioned above) if you’re actually thinking it, not only acting as if…

But DON’T BE BITTER OR ANGRY, this is very important. Tell her what you have to say (you understand that she doesn’t seem to see you that way but it doesn’t work for you anymore. That kind of thing.) and don’t wait for an answer, just go..

Don’t try to convince her (rationally) to be your girlfriend or to have a romantic relationship. Women don’t work that way. Logic will never attract a girl. But emotions, feelings will.

If she tries to call you, tell her that you’re busy and/or keep the conversation short. Again no anger nor frustration. Just show her everything’s fine for you. In fact, you feel even better. If you see her, adopt the same mindset/attitude. Smile but don’t speak long.

she’ll begin to realize that you have other interests in your life than her. She may even be missing you or get frustrated (that’s good). She will ask you questions like « Where were you? », « What did you do? ». No need to answer all her questions. Be a bit vague, let her imagination do the job for you. Above all: DON’T reassure her by saying things like: « Oh, it‘s nothing. I was with John. » Or: « Don‘t be worried you‘ll always be first for me » ….

You can also play on the jealous side. Go and see other girls, even if you don’t make out with them. Better if you do. If so, don’t do it just in front of her, be subtle. If you know she’ll be somewhere, be with or kiss your new ‘girlfriend’ 50, 100 yards from her… And don’t notice her presence, don’t speak about it afterwards. Let her bring up the subject… When speaking about this (new) girl, be positive, describe her in a good light (Don’t need to make up stuff or to try too much).

If she doesn’t get jealous or more interested in you, at least you know were you stand now. No need for you to loose your time and emotions on her.

The main point is STOP being always there for her. Again, better to be a bit sad for a while… but having a life… Than being sad and being masochistic as well. By constantly being there for her, you ARE with her and hear her… Always reminding you how much you’d like more. It’s seriously unhealthy. You don’t want her to be(come) your «ONE-ITIS» (See our PUA Dictionary for definition.)

So, just stop. And maybe you’ll like what you find and you’ll indeed begin to think less about her, meet other girls. You can even end up being pursued by HER.

But always remember, the three most important words a guy who is/was ‘LJBFed’ forget are:
Attraction, attraction, attraction. Comfort is only half of seduction.

Have a life. Stop giving her only comfort… Meet new/other girls.
That’s the best way to don’t come across as needy… Because you aren’t! You have other girls gravitating around you. This girl could be cool to make out with but she isn’t the only one!

From now on, with the girl you meet and are attracted to, you need to be more playful, teasing (e.g. ****y-funny instead of simply nice). Use more kino: Touch them more (light touches, don’t make them fell uncomfortable)… And show them you don’t need them.

PS: Some of the critics made in this thread were partially right. Indeed feedback is useful.
It's more of a LJBF Blocker -to avoid/prevent getting in the friend zone in the first place-.
Above all the second part which use the HmS as a way in (her pants by creating attraction using teasing, ****y-funny lines and even some NLP) more than a way out (of the friend zone).

A 'true' LJBF blocker (several in fact because as I stated in this thread there are different situations which you may be LJBF'd and or being in the friend zone-s-) is on its way.


Our website has been improved (better design and a lot more content). That's why I didn't visit for a while. Really busy.

Alanswer
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