NegHits and ****y Funny

[BrotherAP]

Re: RE:

Originally posted by SeldomSeen
everyone is becoming more and more hip to what neg hits are so they are going to become less useful as times go back

you think so? go up to some random babe and say "What's a neg hit?"

She'll think you're crazy

Watch any really skilled natural, and he'll 'neg hit' several times a night. It's just a name for something that guys who are good with women already do. Just the same as confidence, being funny - it's not like too many guys tried to be funny and confident and it stopped working so now girls are all dating boring guys with low self esteem.

If, however, you're the third guy in a night to tell a HB "I like your nails... are they real?" she might see a pattern and think to herself "what the fvck is going on?"

It's not like what works with women changes every 6 months man. Just make sure what you're doing is original, and not torn straight from the pages of some best selling book adn you're fine

 

[SeldomSeen]

RE:

well on like 3 or 4 forums I visited some of the guys are talking about neghits...seems to becoming more of a wide spread term now.

I was askmen.com and there was a thread about it.

 

[trd323]

If the pick up sounds rehearsed then you will never get anywhere with a girl. It has to seem like that is your personality.

 

[MasterYoda]

Don't do it.

You asked a question that no one answered. I have read abit about negs in the new book that I bought and I wouldn't bother using them as openers to even the 9's and 10's. Imagine how you would feel if some stranger came upt o you and started using light insults. You have to develop rapport I think.

 

[Kalel21]

Good post. I agree that negs can be used as an opener. Yoda tell me how to approach a woman with a high ***** shield? You have to neg her.

 

[MasterYoda]

I posted this in another post but I want to get your opinion here. Should I have used a neg hit in this situation?

Here is an example of something that happened last week. I saw this absolute stunning hottie and her friend. (They were both in the 9's and 10's if you want ratings). They were walking towards me and I was walking towards them. I looked at the brunette one and she kept looking at me then looking away(very brief eye contact, I'd say 3 secs per glance). When I got to the supermarket I was kicking myself becuuase I couldn't believe that I let hot chicks pass me by. After buying my groceries I came accross them a second time and complimented her and she just walked past with her high ***** shield.

Now should I have used a neg here?

 

[Smooth Player 056]

Re: You guys have no idea what a NEg is!

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Negative while Hitting On (neg hit): Neither a insult or a compliment but a compromise in between - passed off as if you had no idea you were negging her:

Read This:

THIS STRUCTURE OF APPROACHING IS FIELD TESTED BY ME!!!

I have good success with this...Do not skim.

Contrary to popular belief, YOU CANNOT EXPECT TO APPROACH A GIRL WITH A LAME ROUTINE AND EXPECT TO SCORE JUST BECAUSE YOU APPROACHED HER!!!

Sure you showed you had confidence, ballz, guts and initiative but without a strong routined structure to backup your approach, your 95% of the time going nowhere!

Think, Think, Think - I cannot emphasise this enough - You have to analyse your target (unless shes walking straight towards you then in that case the 3 second rule comes straight into effect).

Mystery: An amateur goes straight in, a pro waits 10 minutes.

Observe your surroundings, observe your target - What is she wearing, who is she with? were are you? If you just stop to take a look around you will notice a plethora of different subjects to potentially take your conversation with your target in any direction YOU choose.

Some people are of the opinion that SAYING ANYTHING when opening is the way to go.
This is ok if you are fearful of approaching, however the more skilled PUA knows that this is not enough to carry the conversation into a desired pathway to close the deal.

Once you have observed your target, your surroundings and are locked on...Its time for the OPENER.

OPENER.

Any loser can walk up to a girl and say 'Hi'....but then what??

You need to follow that up with a structured opener that you can then manipulate to lead the direction of the conversation off of the subjects she gives you vibe from.

I like Opinion Openers - they get peoples minds working.

Here are a few of my favourites:

Ive just bought two rabbits, i want to name them after pop/rock/film/sports/rap/ duos - can you give me some ideas?

Did you see those 2 girls fighting outside?!?! They were fighting over this little fat bald guy - he was just laughing while they kicked seven bells out of each other - it was brutal - what do you think about girls fighting over men? (CLub)

Can i ask your opinion on something.......? <insert question>

Vibing: Spirit Fingers is a master on this!!!

When ever anyone says anything to you, they give you a multitude of topics in which it is your job to pick up on these and direct the convo down the best possible path.

Quick example: Her: I went to a party last night, got drunk and danced like hell!

Topics she gives you:

1.Party last night
2.Parties in general
3.Getting Drunk
4.Dancing
5.What you did last night.

(Thanks Dan )

From then on you can either talk some more or do what i do - If shes pretty (and usually she is) hit her with some Negs.

NEG HITS.

If shes a SHB then you got to take her off her throne!! There are a plethora of Neg Hits out there to bring her down BUT they cannot be INSULTING, imagine how many times she gets insulted by guys who get turned down by her? Its just as bad as you coming out with some canned corny line.

The neg hit must be both subtley Complimentary and play on her mind, ie something that MOST guys (AFCs) dont say to her.

here are a few classics:

You: Are those nails real?
SHB: No...acrylic.
You: Oh...well...they look nice anyway

You: ahahah your nose wiggles when you talk...there it goes again...its sooooooo cute.

You: I like tall chicks...oh wait...you have heels on...how many inches are they..like 4 or 5?

You: Is that a hair piece? what do you call that style? The rats nest? jus kidding hehe it looks kinda nice.

My favourites - Thanks Mystery

"Weren't you wearing this dress the last time you were here?"

"Excuse me... may I finish my sentence first?"

"Oooh... Sick... You just spit on me!" (when the girl is talking to you).

From ASF - When you neg, ALWAYS present it as a compliment - be charming, friendly, positive, earnest and sincere in your "compliment" If you present your neg as a deliberate insult you come off as a jerk (which however is a good excuse to "apologise" by giving her a hug and a kiss to "make up" for your insult. Being a jerk of course could be a turn-on for some girls, but more often than not, it is a turn-off. Which doesn't mean that being a nice guy is your goal, in fact that's usually an even bigger turn-off. When you fall into the "nice" and eventually the "Let's Just Be Friends" zone, you'll wish you would have fallen into the "jerk" zone, that way you would at least have had some sort of a chance of doing a comeback. So avoid being a "jerk" or a "nice guy" - just take the best of both worlds and neg her with a "compliment

Then - once she is down from her throne - You gotta Demonstrate Some Value

DEMONSTRATE VALUE.

Of course it all depends on how you are leading the convo and what you want to know from her - example from ASF.

The point of eliciting values is to find out what she wants in and from a man and then turn into that man of her dreams by providing her with it. But don't be fooled, if she says she wants her man to be tall and financially secure, you're not going to the doctor to get implants for your legs or rob a bank. What she gave you were means values, which means that tall in itself does nothing for her - what matters to her is how a tall man by her side makes her feel. And this is the key - for each means value you need to find out the ends value, which is what she really wants. Let's take the example of a tall man. Asking her "and how does a tall man make you feel?" might reveal that it makes her feel secure and protected! Aha! That's what she really wants! She wants to feel protected and secure, not a "tall man" per se. In practice, she'll reject a tall man that doesn't make her feel protected and secure right away, whereas you, who you might not be tall at all but can make her feel secure and protected, have just elicited your way to her pants.

Now personally i am an athlete, so i try to take the convo down this pathway - demonstrating my athletic prowess, asking her how an athletic person/strong person makes her feel etc.
Now you can demonstrate value in a number of ways - not just through convo - Take mysterys levitation trick for example.
We are all individuals and all have different qualities that we can elicit to reel in the prey, you just gotta find it. Once this has been done - I like to ISOLATE the women.

ISOLATION.

Put them in a place where they are isolated, and they will die before fleeing (or something lol) - Sun-Tzu

Once you have your target isolated, then its time to run some game on her - Veil the world so that she sees only you at this time, present her with topics that control the flow of her day, use words to captivate her imagination and take her on a spellbinding rollercoaster of emotion that ultimately gets YOU where YOU want to be.

An easy way to elicit some more value and get some good MAVEC in is to use the mind reader test lol. Pretty cheesy but, hold her gaze with that Sexual State of mind and squeeze her hand as you do so.

Tell her to look into your eyes and think of a vegetable beginning with the letter C, then a country beginning with D, then a animal beginning with E.

The Usual answer would be - You: Your eating Carrots in Denmark while riding Elephants??? - this is good for KINO (watch for her squeezing your hand back and hold her gaze - If she holds your gaze for more than 3 secs then i would go in for the kiss ;X

If your not feeling the vibe just yet then you could try running some patterns if you know some: Heres one i analysed:

SS: Sex Is natural - analysed
have *closed. But if not, the game you have run and the following of this guide should stand you in good stead for future sarges.

Conclusion:
OPENER
NEG HIT
ELICIT VALUE
ISOLATE
MIND TRICKS/KINO/MAVEC/ROUTINE
CLOSE

Believe in yourself, and DO NOT FEAR APPROACHING - IF YOU WANT IT...THEN TAKE IT!!!

Good Luck

Sarge On...

www.threadclosed.com

LMAO:crackup: I bet you cant even do the SS Sex patern, matter of fact half the stuff you just mentioned.....way to copy and paste off Masf

 

[MasterYoda]

I posted this in another post but I want to get your opinion here. Should I have used a neg hit in this situation?

Here is an example of something that happened last week. I saw this absolute stunning hottie and her friend. (They were both in the 9's and 10's if you want ratings). They were walking towards me and I was walking towards them. I looked at the brunette one and she kept looking at me then looking away(very brief eye contact, I'd say 3 secs per glance). When I got to the supermarket I was kicking myself becuuase I couldn't believe that I let hot chicks pass me by. After buying my groceries I came accross them a second time and complimented her and she just walked past with her high ***** shield.

Now should I have used a neg here?

 

[Smooth Player 056]

Originally posted by MasterYoda
I posted this in another post but I want to get your opinion here. Should I have used a neg hit in this situation?

Here is an example of something that happened last week. I saw this absolute stunning hottie and her friend. (They were both in the 9's and 10's if you want ratings). They were walking towards me and I was walking towards them. I looked at the brunette one and she kept looking at me then looking away(very brief eye contact, I'd say 3 secs per glance). When I got to the supermarket I was kicking myself becuuase I couldn't believe that I let hot chicks pass me by. After buying my groceries I came accross them a second time and complimented her and she just walked past with her high ***** shield.

Now should I have used a neg here?

The last thing you wanna do on 9's and 10's is compliment them. Definetly you shoulda used a neg hit.

 

[Kalel21]

he actually did I was told

 

[catch]

i dont think i would be able to pull that sex pattern off,
its sound creepy and strange..

 

[Kalel21]

Hey catch I just realised you are from the UK. I think we from the UK need help since these days chicks play so hard to get.

I think you'd have to try the sex pattern at least. You'll never know until you do mate.

 

[Hound_of_Love]

Jeez, if I tried to remember all that stuff whilst looking down the cleavage of some pretty young thing I'd go blank.

 

[Kalel21]

I don't think you have to memorise the thing but just keep the routine which is

OPENER
NEG HIT(maybe the opener)
ELICIT VALUE
ISOLATE
MIND TRICKS/KINO/MAVEC/ROUTINE
CLOSE

in your head and make your up as you go along. Just let the convo flow through and don't get nervous

 

[Hound_of_Love]

Originally posted by Kalel21
in your head and make your up as you go along. Just let the convo flow through and don't get nervous

I know. I just think it's weird having this little plan ticking over in your head. Personally I don't do it. Neither do I get nervous talking to girls - I think I probably would if I was thinking "right...neg hit...qualify...qualify...KINO, KINO KINO...target is isolated, we have a go... etc" all the time.

 

[catch]

knowing my luck this it what will come out;

yeah i agree, sex is natrual and WE SHOULD DO IT, when we have THAT URGE, just there, popping up and thats whats so important about sex, its like a voice in YOUR MINE, that says **** him now, or you will never get the chance, are you WITH ME? its so natrual that you should just LET IT HAPPEN and when you FEEL THAT URge just th.....

*SMACK*

she storms out, ive got a bloody nose!!!

 

[Kalel21]

LOL now that was funny but againdon't knock it till you have tried it. :crackup:

 

[MasterYoda]

PROBLEM: How the **** am I going to give her the feeling of secure and protected if I am skinny weedy guy. I'm tall and skinny. So what does she expect me to go out and start beating up people for her?

Forget it man its not worth it.

 

[MasterYoda]

Re: You guys have no idea what a NEg is!

Originally posted by The_Shezzler

DEMONSTRATE VALUE.

Of course it all depends on how you are leading the convo and what you want to know from her - example from ASF.

The point of eliciting values is to find out what she wants in and from a man and then turn into that man of her dreams by providing her with it. But don't be fooled, if she says she wants her man to be tall and financially secure, you're not going to the doctor to get implants for your legs or rob a bank. What she gave you were means values, which means that tall in itself does nothing for her - what matters to her is how a tall man by her side makes her feel. And this is the key - for each means value you need to find out the ends value, which is what she really wants. Let's take the example of a tall man. Asking her "and how does a tall man make you feel?" might reveal that it makes her feel secure and protected! Aha! That's what she really wants! She wants to feel protected and secure, not a "tall man" per se. In practice, she'll reject a tall man that doesn't make her feel protected and secure right away, whereas you, who you might not be tall at all but can make her feel secure and protected, have just elicited your way to her pants.

Now personally i am an athlete, so i try to take the convo down this pathway - demonstrating my athletic prowess, asking her how an athletic person/strong person makes her feel etc.
Now you can demonstrate value in a number of ways - not just through convo - Take mysterys levitation trick for example.
We are all individuals and all have different qualities that we can elicit to reel in the prey, you just gotta find it. Once this has been done - I like to ISOLATE the women.

PROBLEM: I'm talking about the Demostrating Values bit. How the **** am I going to give her the feeling of secure and protected if I am skinny weedy guy. I'm tall and skinny. So what does she expect me to go out and start beating up people for her?

Forget it man its not worth it.

 

[MasterYoda]

Can someone answer me this please