negative traits reframed

[SuPaF1y]

awsome any other suggustions man???

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

F***ing Brilliant, man

you're right, every possible thing can be reframed into a positive trait. that was actually an exercise I did a while ago. but you took it a step further.

one thing I was confused about was that "correct" alpha state.

are you higher status if you sit back with a quiet confidence?
some people would say no, because you're just a shy meek "loner"

most people equate being alpha to being a loud voice who tells people what to do. others would equate that loud voice to insecurity and having to over-compensate.

maybe it just boils down to what is natural for you.

always having to have the last word can be seen as either "alpha" because you're staying in control
or plain childish, because you cant let what she said go.

anything can be reframed though. good job bro

 

[SuPaF1y]

yea, good shi* man.

i'd love to see more of your posts

 

[Jerry Maguire]

dude, you're right.
girls love Adam Brody from the O.C. and he's a total geek.

 

[Turncoat]

Genius

Great post organisedchaos, very insightful.

 

[doctor]

There's some value in that.

What I would say though is that this will probibly be a wonderful thing for womankind. All men become more dominant. All men play with them and tease them. It's what they want after all.

However being intraverted is something ath takes people a hell of a battle to get through. Many won't manage.

Only other thing I've got to say is that if millions of years of selection have anything to do with it wussy AFC types aren't going to see much in the way of quality ***** any time soon.

 

[organizedconfusion]

INTROVERSION REFRAMED

indifference
living in your own reality
doing what you wanna do in spite of other peoples opinions
inner 'locus of control' inner directed & influenced
arrogant humor

these are the basic alpha male traits presented by DYD

when these are in FACT the very same traits of the
introverted personality. It seems to be that most people
still equate with being introverted with being meek,
shy or humble or somewhat -weird in a way.
But in actually the very same traits listed above
(as 'alpha') are the traits that come about 'naturally'
in introverts.
Introverts with a touch of rebeliousness and danger?
CLASSIC 'BAD BOY' TYPES.
Extraverts reaction seeking and trying to put on this
persona? 'wanna be' bad boy' types.

the most seductive people are in fact..introverted,
seduction is a very sublte and in a ways 'passive'
compared to the CF busting on a girl,'acting' alpha.
the hooks sink in deeper and the effect lingers
much longer after the 'entertainment' is gone-

the depth swallows her up and envelups her
completly-Where as the effect of alphaness
creates intial attraction-it's still somewhat predictable
and the interest fades, because the attraction is
linear- pretty soon it's obvious where the relationship is
headed and it's novelty soon looses it 'punch'.

Anyone have a really cool funny uncle?
but then he stays for a week and he's not soo funny
after all? as a matter of fact he begins to get annoying
after about the 3rd day.


seduction sinks it's hooks inside the person, without
even them knowing and when they do it's already too
late...

sure being playfull and teasing a girl will make her
feel good and create alot of initial attraction-
it'll make her feel like a little girl again...

but only through seduction and drawing her out
of her little girl shell will she ever experiance the
passions and depths of becoming a REAL woman.

and only through seduction will she ever fall in love and
only after being 'broken' will she ever appreitate
a REAL man and NOT a little boy.

Little boys tease 'playfully tug on her hair and let her
chase him around' , MEN dominate and take over
without soo much of a whisper.




also, the 'loner' introverts are more often
then not, portrayed as heros and icons in this day and age.
Watch a movie ,most movies- and the main characters
are often the standoffish introspected..loner types.

think about that image of 'cool' , someone that
does what he wants, indifferent, dosen't really care
what other people are doing, very intropective and
has depth to him-he is influenced only by his own
thoughts and suggestions. More traits of introversion...



Introversion is NOT an inferior personality trait.
it's simply a trait, a natural trait that some people have.
Misunderstood and misapplied, it could be taken
as something not very appealing and unattractive-
only because they are 'brainwashed' by the non-sense
of having to be some ****y funny 'alpha' wanna-be stud guy,
and falling to the false mindset that in order for girls to
feel attraction , they 'must' fit that 'mold'.
Thats simply ridiculis ,of course there are naturally
****y funny REAL alpha guys, but thats who they
are naturally and thats cool.

Plus when you 'think' something is 'wrong' with you,
you 'act' like somethings wrong with you...
if you think that whatever is 'holding you back'
whatever reason it may be, it will.
Don't let it,understand it ,pick it apart and then intergrate it
into your own. All those traits are are just misunderstood...
ultimatly , whatever you may think that is holding you back
will be the thing that gets you ahead and pushes you
to your next level in your game..trust me..i been there.
GOD knows i've been there!!!

the point is, people should'nt have to ditch all their
personality quirks for 'customized alpha' ones-
maybe i should explain , since being 'yourself'
for some reason or another gets equated with
being 'AFC' ( which only makes me more suspicious,because
it communicates that they automaticlly associate themselves
or 'being themselves' with being 'afc' or inferior in the first place...
which is just plain sad )

introversion
weirdness
oddness
eccentricness
sillyness
pessimism
coldness
arrogance
detatchment
moodyness

any and ALL of these CAN be reframed into positives and
can be used as STRENGTHS IF done correctly.
It's not about ditching them or thinking that they are
wrong, it's about accepting them and intergrating them
into something that IS attractive and IS your own..
because it IS.
Of course intergrating and supplementing with alpha
qualities can be usefull and beneficial,but relying on them
solely and adapting them completly while disgarding
the ones you already may have is simply... stupid.
You're just throwing everything that makes you YOU and
that's unique about you if you do that.

whats most attractive and whats considered more 'alpha' then anything?

someone who is themselves- UNFORGIVINGLY...




NO, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE 'AFC' BEHAVIORS!


*since being 'yourself'
for some reason or another gets equated with
being 'AFC' ( which only makes me more suspicious,because
it communicates that they automaticlly associate themselves
or 'being themselves' with being 'afc' or inferior in the first place...
which is just plain sad )*

 

[doctor]

Intraverted is the result of fear of social rejection. Plain and simple. Look at the difference in posture between an intraverted and extraverted person.

Intraverted people are people who are repressing a lot of their emotions and personality. It's likely the result of years of social dysfunction.

We all accept women are attracted to 'leaders' - leadership is an alpha male characteristic.

Intraverts may INTRIGUE a woman IF they display a few alpha-male characteristics. That make their intraversion seem incongruent. They'll wonder why he's like that.

But that's simply because intravertion doesn't fit.

And you'd get a hell of a lot more interest as an alpha male.

Women look on men as their prizes too. The problem is that so many guys are into the average woman that they're not easily impressed. They want exceptional guys.

Most 7+ women could get laid any night of the week they wanted easily. Why don't they? ASD. They don't want the social repuatation of sleeping with the wussy AFC types. Incidently that's why picking up is easier when a girl is on vacation. She wants to get laid and ASD is much less of a consideration.

 

[organizedconfusion]

Perhaps you read it incorrectly-
INTROVERSION REFRAMED was the last posts topic...
all you're doing is looking at this STILL from a
failuristic point of view

What you stated about introverts is not only obsurdly
incorrect..it's outright ignorant

 

[SuPaF1y]

confusion, bro. i am fuc*in amazed at your knowledge. i've got lifes mentors and then i just found out ive got a "mind" mentor which would be you. YOU are helping me figure out so much stuff that i was stuck on tremendously that i am beyond happy right now. i'd just love to see you keep posting daily on stuff like this man. I will allways give feedback and i love to keep learning.


Rob - your idle

 

[SuPaF1y]

o yea and as for guys, that problem i was having. i think i figured it out. in a nutshell, guys like:


GUYS: ENERGY - they love it. as long as you have the feeling of energy.

( which i was not giving off in my attraction mode ex: slow movements, deep voice, slow voice, ect ect.. )

GIRLS: ATTRACTION - nuff said.

i think i just figured the guys out and now i can rule the world!! ahaha

um.. yea. so now my next step is to see if i can put 2 and 2 togeather and make myself energetic/attractive at the same time?? or turn 1 off and 1 on when needed. continuing my quest. leave comments

 

[SuPaF1y]

comments would be cool

 

[Bonhomme]

Very good. As long as it's not used as a crutch to make excuses for lack of appropriate action.

 

[SuPaF1y]

"Arrogant S.O.B.s run the world. A person can never have too much self-assurance. The best in every field are likely to strike most people as irrationally arrogant, ****y and confident, but that's how they got to the top."

"Keep away from people who try to de-rail you and your ambitions. The weak always do that, but the truly great make you feel that you, too, can become great."

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

 

[organizedconfusion]

i think you are trying to come up with a way to be
percieved as 'universaly attractive' ,both by gaining the
comradery and respect from guys while at the same time-
gaining the attraction and sexual intrigue by woman, correct?

i reccomend material by Tyler Durden of Real Social Dynamics,
he has a TON of material on that type of stuff and it
has ALOT to do with ...just having a good time, joking around
with your friends and allowing the girl to want into the action herself. It also goes into alot of various issues like social proof, vibing etc.

http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/audio.asp

here is a link to it- also check out his CD set Surviving the Game...

 

[SuPaF1y]

Attraction(girls):

ok in a nutshell when you turn 'on' attraction you walk slower, talk deeper, make slow gestures ect ect. you are a walking seduction. It IS the total opposite of 'guys' having fun goofing around and hanging out.

Energy(guys):

i was trying to figure out how to come on top with guys and i found the word i used was 'energy'.
in a nutshell i would describe energy as fast moving, fast talking, energetic, laughing, having a good time ect ect..

now before when i did not know what 'moved' guys. i was using attraction at the 100% level. YES, i got the girls but, i did not really connect with guys on any real level.

ATTRACTION is an emotional feeling.
ENERGY is also a feeling.

they are the total opposite of eachother.

what i 'did' was picture 2 swirling balls of emotional feeling, the size of bowling balls in my body.

1- attraction.
2- energy.

each had switches were i could 'turn' up or amp up the emotion/feeling.

the kick was, i couldnt turn both of them up to 100% because it wasnt possible. so i started with 50/50.. it was ok but when i was trying that i felt like a lot of ladies that could have been interested were 'turned off'. ( but i also was a lot more talkative and having more fun ) so i 'amp'ed' up attraction more.
80% attraction 20% energy.

Perfect. i felt like i did with 100% attraction and i had a 'extra' burst of energy that i could use on a moments notice.. ex: talking to a 'guy' i meet in a store, parties ect ect.. without totally blowing all the guys off and concentrating on only girls.

I 'THINK' i have found what i've been looking for during the past couple years.. the perfect mindset.

now i dont have to feel like i need to 'study' or read books ect ect.. i just am 100% OK with my current mindset and it works wonders with the ladies, and enough with the guys so they are coming back to me.

 

[organizedconfusion]

experiance brings about wisdom that books and materials
might never bring about..you can actually 'see' the outcomes
and results and there are the subtle little gesters &
tiny cues that could be missed or not even made conciously
awareness of.

I learned the absoulte most about body language,
sexual communication and attraction-working in a department
store for two years simply having to interact and converse
with different types of people. Especially woman.
It also allowed me to use various types of seduction techniques
and also body language 'experiments' to see what
action triggered what result ( i know, i should be working!)
below the 'concious' radar.

anyways,
i learned that i can actually 'ignore' or 'alienate' a girl while
still sending out signals of attraction and building
an attraction through that-
Without saying a word to her, i could actually
'condition' her to feel a state of arousal or attraction
everytime i was around...hmmm...


just a different view point to illustrate, there is more then
one way to skin a cat..pusssy cat

also, have you ever used 'high energy' to attract girls?
the one time PUA twenty-six (RSD)was a big ball of energy
and that was just his game..

 

[SuPaF1y]

i guess my next big question and obstacle to overcome is somthing that some people call 'out of it', others call 'feeling down', 'not thinking straight' ect ect... these moments tend to happen when there is little activity in my day, or i am thinking ahead about somthing that hasnt happened yet.

When i am in one of these moments, My thinking becomes disorented, My bodylanguage goes haywire, I get nervous on little things that would normally not make me nervous, My thoughts become cloudy and It feels like everything gets worse.

I know this happens to everyone and its apart of life itself, but there HAS to be a way to understand the feeling better or somehow controll it. Everyone has these bad days or moments. Whatever you call it. I'd like to learn more about this 'dark' side to life so I can work on controlling the feeling or atleast minimizing the feeling.

 

[organizedconfusion]

..join the club!!!

i hate days like that,when it feels like you're losing your mind
and everything is just soo confusing?
don't worry you're not crazy..
it's just something i also call 'down days'
where everything seems hopless and theirs a big hovering
black cloud over you.

It lead me into other studies, both in psychology and
also...diet habits.
I realised i am prone to hypo-glycemia, it's a term used
to describe low blood sugar- basiclly everything you described.
Try this excerisize (unless you are diabetic)
drink two cans of pepsi and then wait..
if you get really really hyper then crash, then it'll be safe to
say that you are hypoglycemic and i'd just watch your
overall sugar intake.Most people do crash, but the level
of degree varies tremendously person to person.
Some people, their blood sugar just levels or normalizes,
some drop waaayy low and they could fall into a coma-
in worst case scanarios...

http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/hypoglycemia/


try eating eggs on these days or a lean source of protein
when you feel like crap, they always boost me up because
proteins naturally raise neurotransmitter levels-
the stuff that keeps you alert, just avoid fatty proteins like
fatty steaks or bacon.They'll just get you more groggy.
Eggs work best for me.


..just realise that it's a bad day and nothing
more- unless it's really eating away at you,
then it's the best time to 'take action' and just do something
that requires no thinking involved- working out, scetching,
whatever that draws you out of your head and into the
moment. Hell, i used to go rallying on days like that,
and it would snap me right out of it ,because it
FORCED me to stay in the moment- i had to..unless i
wanted to wreck my car.. or die.

i sometimes just dwell during the dark days,
put on some guns & roses (knocking on heavens door,
november rain,don't you cry tonight...i know..i am old school!)
just to humble myself and allow myself to feel the pain and
discomfort that i am going through..i don't know why..
but the process forces me to deal with the feelings
and what i am going through, rather then always having
to cover them up..i let it run it's natural course.
In time, those down days are the days i built up most of my
strength...if i am able to endure this horrible feeling and survive,
then i can endure anything that life throws at me.

I am not saying to sit around and feel sorry for yourself,
i am merely suggesting that you just let it run it's course to
see what happens and what emotions arise.
So you can deal with them when your mind is clear...
I could go from bitter, to sad to angry to sad...whatever,
the best part is that it gets an outlet that way.
If it all gets more and more repressed, pretty soon
those days will get worse and worse and worse..
until you can no longer handle them-
this is called a mental breakdown, psychosis or to be put
simply..going crazy.

days like that happen for a reason, you're worn out and
without the protective wall of the concious mind,
your psyche kinda just runs loose and all of a sudden
things just pop out of nowhere and all of a sudden
everything is an issue!
If you understand why it happens, accept it for what it is,
it has less of an impact on you.Because it can be
somewhat maintained.



Imagine trying to push up against a wave coming
towards you , you'd get hit hard and pushed over by the current...
but if you go with the flow of the waves...

 

[SuPaF1y]

i'd like to read more of your thoughts and assumptions on 'the game' or anything in general, you come to great conclusions