Neg Hits... Do they work?

Do 'Neg Hits' work for you and how old are you.

  • YES - Under 18 (17 Years old and younger)

    Votes: 9 11.0%
  • YES - (18 - 25)

    Votes: 41 50.0%
  • YES - (26 - 32)

    Votes: 10 12.2%
  • YES - (33 - 39)

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • YES - 40 and above

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • NO - Under 18 (17 Years old and younger)

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • NO - (18 - 25)

    Votes: 10 12.2%
  • NO - (26 - 32)

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • NO - (33 - 39)

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • NO - 40 and above

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Total voters
    82

Francisco d'Anconia

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I'm bumping this to get more statistical info. Please vote if you haven't already.
 

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To sum it up: By "negging" you are basically sub-communicating that your value is lower than hers, and that you are attempting to bring her down to your level.

I "DHV" by the way I live my life, by who and what I am and not with some lame tactic like "negs" which are nothing but manipulative girl-like games.

Do you think a girl with lower value than your own could "neg" you and bring your percieved level down?

Of course not, unless you are really insecure and need validation from women.

"Negging" is the 2nd lamest thing I've seen in "the community" right behind "peacocking"
 

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Negging works best when there are are a few other people around. With other people around, she has to play it cool. But if you try to neg her when it's just the two of you, she is less likely to respond the way you want her to.
 

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Negs work best on girls who aren't interested in you at first, and I don't believe in exerting effort to raise a girl's IL. While I'm no longer a big fan of seduction techniques, however, I'll concede that neg hits can work...in theory.

The problem is that the variables are so complex that neg hits are very difficult to master. (You're not supposed to overtly insult...the neg shouldn't be at a time when she's already feeling good about you...the neg usually needs to be a bit creative...The neg should hit something she's already insecure about...etc.)

Imo, the best neg is just to ignore a girl who is being b1tchy. If it reforms her behavior, good; if not, oh well.
 

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Faq

Using a NEG isn't to bring them "down to your level" it is to Knock them off their damn High Horse.

Nobody is better than anybody else. NEGing isn't sub-communicating that they are better it is sub-communicating that they are stuck up!

Neg-Hits
by Sir Chancealot​
There has been, and will continue to be, great interest in neg-hits. A successful DJ will always be cognizant of the fact that neg-hits are an integral part of his repertoire.
Why is this? Because neg-hits work, and they work wonderfully well when used correctly. Used incorrectly, the women will hate you.
"What exactly is a neg-hit" you ask?
Neg-hit is short for negative hit. Many DJs have given great examples of neg-hits, but I shall give you an actual definition.
Neg-hit: A remark, sometimes humorous, used to point out a woman's flaws. That, in essence, is a neg-hit.

Before we begin our in-depth study of neg-hits, let's learn what a neg-hit IS NOT.
a) A neg-hit is NOT an insult.
"You are a *****" is merely an insult, not a neg-hit.
b) A neg-hit is NOT meant to be cruel.
"You are too fat for me" is not a neg-hit; it is being unnecessarily cruel.
c) And finally, and perhaps most importantly, a neg-hit is NOT some magic spell that you can speak and have women fall all over you. But it's the closest thing you will get to that!

Ok, so now that we know what a neg-hit ISN'T, let us proceed to find out what a neg-hit IS.
Remember that a neg-hit is a remark, sometimes humorous, used to point out a woman's flaws.
a) A neg-hit IS used to penetrate a woman's ***** shield.
b) A neg-hit IS used to bring a woman down off her self-imposed pedestal.
c) A neg-hit is SINCERE. Women can spot phony a mile away.
d) And most importantly, a neg-hit IS used to bring a woman's self perception more into line with reality.

Now that you know what a neg-hit is and isn't, let's discuss upon whom you should deliver a neg-hit.
A neg-hit can be safely used on a 9.5 or 10 who KNOWS she ranks that high. A neg-hit can also be safely used on any girl who THINKS she is a 9 or 10, even if she is actually a 6 or a 7 (these are usually "daddy's girls").
Don't use a neg-hit on either of these types of women if they are feeling particularly bad about themselves that day. They may just hate you for it.

The effect of a good neg-hit on a woman's psyche is something to behold. It does 4 things simultaneously.
1) Since those high quality women are used to men kissing their ass, it will confuse them.
"This guy isn't falling all over me like a puppy dog. Why is that? Is my (whatever flaw) really that bad?" It throws them off balance and makes them self-conscious.
2) It will pique their curiosity about you, and you become something of a mystery.
"Why isn't this guy acting like every other AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) I meet? How come my looks haven't immediately charmed him? What is up with this guy?"
3) It will create a challenge.
"This guy must have REALLY high standards. I don't think he likes me. Everyone else likes me. I MUST get him to like me!"
4) It lets her know that you don't think she is anything special based on her looks alone.
"He isn't amazed by how I look? Why? *GASP* Am I in the presence of a REAL man? Oh, I think my panties are wet!"
After the neg-hit, watch her eyes. You will see her go "Hey!" And then you will actually SEE her run through all 4 of those stages mentioned above. It really is amazing. With a few well-placed comments, you have created all the things that DJs strive so hard to create, and you have appeared to do it effortlessly.

When delivering a neg-hit on a woman, everything AFC in you will scream, "Don't do it! She will hate me for it! She will get upset! It will piss her off!" ***** slap that little AFC, and send him to his room.
If you have never used neg-hits before, you are in for a real treat, and some surprises. Don't listen to that little voice: be bold, confident, and casual, and SINCERE. It will be worth it.

Neg-hits can be delivered in one of two ways. One way is to deliver it straight, without any indication that you are joking or playing. This works best on girls who are extremely stuck up about some aspect of themselves.
For example, I was at a bar and this really hot 21-year-old chick ended up showing the bartender and I her tits. Since all the other guys were freaking out and I was not responding, she slid over to me and said, "What did YOU think of them?"
I look her in the eyes, looked at her tits, looked her back in the eyes and said, "They're nice, but I've seen better", then turned back to my drink. Her interest level shot through the roof!
Girls who just have their ***** shield up, or the girls that think they are hotter than they really are, get the second delivery -- which is in a humorous way. You deliver the neg-hit with humor and laughter. This says to her, "Yes, I am aware of your flaw, but I think it's cute." This also says to her "You are not as perfect as all these AFCs think you are."
There are three main groups (for lack of a better term) around which you will neg-hit.
The first is her choices (choice of dress, hair style, makeup, etc). The second is her physical characteristics. Included in this is how she moves/speaks/eats/etc. Third (very rare and hard to accomplish) is her actions (how she treats someone, manners, etc.).

1) Choice neg-hits can be used as opening "lines", or can be used during a conversation.
Examples of Choice Neg-Hits:
+ "Hey, I like that outfit. **pause for her response** Yeah, my (mother/aunt/grandmother) has one just like it!" This one is a classic.
+ "You have a very pretty face, but you should use less makeup. Makeup should be used to enhance a woman's beauty, not hide it."
+ "You have really beautiful hair. **pause** You should grow it (shorter/longer). It would go much better with the shape of your face."
+ "That outfit is really sharp. **pause** It would look much better if it were (some other color)."
+ "Nice outfit! **pause** I saw another woman here wearing the exact same thing!" Women HATE this. (Personally, if a guy was wearing the same thing as me, I'd just think he had good taste.)
+ "Have you highlighted your hair? **pause for her response** Why do women ruin their luxurious hair with highlights?"
+ "You have very pretty (blue/brown/black/green/hazel) eyes. **pause** You shouldn't use (so much/so little) eye shadow. It detracts from the color of your eyes."

I hope the above examples of "choice" neg-hits give you a basis to get started. Use your imagination when coming up with these. With practice, they should get easier.
Also, I cannot stress the importance of BEING SINCERE. If you think her hair is perfect, don't use a hair neg-hit.

2) Physical trait neg-hits are best delivered in a humorous way, unless the woman is EXTREMELY hot or stuck up. Remember, you are pointing out flaws, but only because you think it's CUTE.
Don't just walk up and use these as openers. You should already have a conversation going when using these neg-hits. You MUST use humor with these neg-hits, on all except the hottest or stuck up chicks, because otherwise you just sound like an ass.
 

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FAQ part two

*continued*

Examples of Physical Trait Neg-Hits:
+ "Do you know your nose wiggles when you (talk/laugh/drink)?"
+ "You have little crinkles around your eyes when you laugh."
+ "Hey, you've got a little bit of a mustache!" Yes, I've successfully used this one. If you look close enough, ALL women have a little bit of hair on their top lip. Some are more noticeable than others, but they all have it. It is best used if you lean in real close (almost like a kiss) while looking at her lips, then laugh and lean back. She will ask you what is so funny.
+ "I like women with weak/strong chins." (Her mind: "He thinks I have a weak/strong chin? Is a weak/strong chin good or bad? Do most men prefer weak/strong chins?")
+ "You have really long/short fingers. Most guys prefer a woman with short/long fingers." Note how you didn't mention YOUR preference, merely "most men." These will leave her guessing as to which you prefer. As we all know, any time she is thinking about YOU, it's a good thing!
+ "An attractive girl like you should take better care of her nails."
+ "You have a weird sense of humor."
+ "It's kind of rude to chew with your mouth open."
+ "Ewwww! You just spit on me!" (said while she is talking, and you are brushing off the front of your shirt).
+ "Please don't interrupt me while I am speaking." Girls often do this unconsciously. Have you ever sat around and REALLY paid attention to a bunch of girls talking?
+ "Do you use a conditioner for split-ends?"
+ "You have a really big/small/weird nose!"
+ If she mentions she has a big butt or looks fat (called "fishing for a compliment", because she is trying to get you to compliment her), say "Nah, Sir Mix-A-Lot (or Puff Daddy) would love a butt like that!" Notice that you told her what someone else would think of her butt, but (no pun intended) you haven't told her what YOU think of it.

Ok, that should give you some examples on physical trait neg-hitting. Use your imagination. Remember, it is VERY easy to sound cruel when saying these types of things, so use humor. You're pointing it out because you think it's "cute" (awwwwww!), not because you are being mean or cruel.
This will be translated by the girl to the following internal conversation "He thinks my <some body part> is <some characteristic>? No one has ever told me that. But he thinks it's cute. Do other guys think like him? I certainly don't think he is like other guys! Is my <some body part> REALLY <some characteristic>?"
Notice how many times YOU were brought up in that internal conversation, which happens in a blink of the eye?

3) The last type of neg-hit, the "Action" neg-hit, is the most difficult to pull off without sounding like a pompous prick. It is best reserved for girls that shoot you down before you even get a chance to talk with them. You know the ones that I am talking about.
You walk up and say "Hi" and they give you a ****ty look, or say "I'm not interested" right away. Those types of women. Although you can get away with these types of neg-hits on any stuck up girl. This is basically calling a woman on her bull**** when you don't even know her.
Examples of Action Neg-Hits:
+ If you go up to talk to a woman, and she shoots you down before you even speak to her: "Hey lady, **laugh** all I wanted to do was to ask you for the ashtray/salt/ketchup/time/whatever. **laugh again, start to walk away, then say** I'll be right over here when you want to apologize." (Notice, not "if" but "when"). Walk away laughing. Every time you catch her looking your way, laugh her way.
+ "You know, it is really unbecoming for a woman like yourself to be so snobbish."
+ "You behaved very rudely. Weren't you taught proper manners?" This is best used if you overhear her interaction with someone else, and she WAS behaving rudely.
+ When she says something totally ludicrous ("I really like nice guys", etc.) "You are SO full of ****!" Guys, watch the deer-caught-in-the-headlights look! It's hilarious. She'll not have a response for this. This is my all time favorite! Be prepared to explain why you thought so, because when she recovers her composure she will most certainly ask for an explanation.
+ If she cusses a lot, "Do you know how unattractive it is when a woman speaks like that?"
+ "Please be a little more considerate where you are blowing your smoke."
+ Correct her grammar. (Especially difficult to pull off without sounding pompous.)

Now, if you are new to being a DJ, I can see what your little minds are thinking.
Is he kidding? Those examples are soooo cheesy! My God, what dumbass woman would fall for those? There's NO WAY those things will work! These women will think I'm a stupid *******!
How'd I do?
Yes, I DO mean to tell you that those lines work, and work wonderfully well. Now, *****-slap the AFC side of you that said that, and tell him to go have a long conversation with your feminine side! You don't want to hear anymore of his bull****!
NO MATTER IF HUMOR IS USED OR NOT, ALWAYS DELIVER THE NEG-HIT WITH THE UTMOST SUPREME CONFIDENCE! A neg-hit without confidence is like going bear hunting with an unloaded rifle. You may think its cool, but you'll get your ass chewed up!
Neg-hits work because you quickly and effortlessly take a woman down from her pedestal. You show her you are in control, you have a quick wit and mind, and that she doesn't impress you. In other words, YOU ARE EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF ALL THE CHUMPS THAT HAVE BEEN HITTING ON HER.
After the neg-hit, be prepared for her to neg-hit you back! Sometime later in the conversation, she will tease you about some trait you have, or something you said. You must shoot some smartass comment right back at her. This, in effect, is a test. Pass this test and you will have gotten a LOT farther than you would have otherwise.
You will find out that while you still have to do all the rest of the DJ moves, you have greater latitude for screw-ups than you would have otherwise had.

One word of warning: Don't ever tell her (or any woman for that matter) that you have/are/going to neg-hit her. For that matter, don't even discuss what a neg-hit actually is with a woman. They will swear that neg-hits "would never work on me."
Yeah, sure honey.
Newbies, what's the first rule of women? Never listen to what they say, always look at their actions.
 

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So why waste time with stuck up *****es who think they are better than everyone else?

It'll be a constant battle, constant drama.

I'll take the girl who doesn't have the "princess" mentality and doesn't need to act stuck up to feel good about her self.

Which goes back to my original point - negs are for LSE girls.

You think a "neg" would have any affect on you?

Or on anyone who has their $#!T halfway together?

Hells no.

Why waste your time with these type of girls to even begin with?

Who needs the drama? Who needs the manipulation that goes along with it?

If a girl is hot, but also a stuck up princess, that is not attractive to me and trying to change her using manipulative tricks doesn't have much upside to it.

She will still be a high-maintanence drama queen/princess who will constantly need to be put in check and kept there.

Why bother, when there are so many better girls out there that aren't high maintanence drama queens who think that their $#!T doesn't stink?

Give me a sweet, hot, down to Earth girl who is confident enough with herself not to have to behave like a stuck up b!tch anyday over some AW

Again, some of you guys are making meeting and "meating" women waaaay more complicated than it actually is, and much of this stuff is actually counterproductive.

Negs are lame, almost as much as "Peacocking"
 
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