Neg Hits Aren't Working...

[spaceMAN]

Ok i have an example of neg hits not working on a girl, maybe i'm doing it wrong, or maybe these girls were just stupid. well, here goes :

1. I saw this chick at school, she was like a 8.5, and i walked up to her and said, "Hi, i'm david, *tells me her name* that shirt is fu cking ugly." And then she just gave me a weird look, and walked away! I said to her i was just kidding, and she was like, ok, whatever. She talked to me a little more, but i kept trying neg. hits so she would like me but they didn't work... like after that^ i told her that her hair looks like she just got out of a Hurricane. She got pissed.

Your advice is welcomed.

 

[TizZle]

I'd probably just use neg hits sparingly so you don't come off as a complete a-hole. Hopefully some experienced members will chime in.

 

[Evil-Rom]

Originally posted by spaceMAN
"Hi, i'm david, *tells me her name* that shirt is fu cking ugly."

wow just wow

 

[Skweints]

Dude, if you walked up to me, and said "Your shirt is ****ing ugly." I'd probably look at you weird and tell you to go suck a ****...

A better example of a Neg-Hit would be "*weird look* Oh my god! Did you skin your couch to make that shirt!??!" with a look of astonishment as to why she would do such a thing. (I didn't come up with that on my own, but I saw it somewhere, and it stuck, so I'm not going to take credit for it.)

A successful neg-hit has to be something that is negative about them, but in a HUMOROUS way... The difference between the former and the latter being that the latter will leave her thinking "Did he just ask if I skinned my couch [to make this shirt]???" Then once it clicks, she'll grin like a little kid. Also, you don't want to use a neg-hit as an opener. Nor do you want to use them often. Do it when it FEELS approprite... like when she's talking about how much the shirt cost.

Notice the difference?

 

[TheRelic]

Hi, i'm david, *tells me her name* that shirt is fu cking ugly.

i told her that her hair looks like she just got out of a hurricane

Love it!

 

[Lysol]

I dont think it worked because you judged her appearance and did not even know her. Some women are just really sensitive to that kind of stuff. I see this only working on a girl that you know.

 

[karusel]

If she's so damn horrible why would you even want to talk to her? How could she have taken your not funny insults as a joke? Of course she was offended!

You can't just start neg hitting just as you first see her, swim around a little, then after a few minutes after the ice had been broken, sting her with a negative, BUT it has to be funny. I fail to see another way to make this work.

 

[Kaine]

For gods sakes, does anyone read the bible?

It's like giving a shotgun to a kid to kill a fly, except the shotgun is held back to front.

First of all, neghits are only for really hot girls

Secondly, it's a back handed compliment.

"Nice shirt, my moms got one just like it"


It's like the blind leading the blind here

Kaine

 

[A&F Brand Cologne]

I called a girl fat and she had sex with me. I don't know what you're doing wrong.

this kid is a troll, by the way.

 

[squirrels]

Another "neghit post". If you people are going to use ASF tactics to get women, use them in context. Don't just read one blurb on a dating site about a specific technique and then expect to be able to use it to magically seduce women.

 

[Jariel]

Originally posted by A&F Brand Cologne
I called a girl fat and she had sex with me. I don't know what you're doing wrong.

this kid is a troll, by the way.

haha! I called a girl's mother a slvt and both she and her mother are throwing themselves at me!

Anyway I agree that he's a troll.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

Skweints, i got to hand it to you, i love your example, that got me laughing, almost as much as when i was reading the original post and realised that we have 1 confused space man.

listen space man, when you first heared aobut neg hits, let me guess you thought it was a great idea. you say you used it to try and get her to like you.

well thats not how it works, you use them to put her in her place, if she is being being a b!tch or is givng you a look that says why is this loser wasting my time, then you neg hit. But if shes being alrite, then you got to use your charm not your neg hits, theres a time and a place for neg htis and this was not it.

another point was the neg hit itself, you just said "that shirt is fcuking ugly" thats not good it just makes you sound grumpy and mean. you should say what Skweints said, you got to build it up not just diss her, for example, just start off saying "thats an intresting shirt how much was it" on her reply (unless it is real cheap) you say "ahh i thought you would be able to get somtihng good for that kind of money, it looks pretty crappy" and if it was cheap then go to plan B and say "yeah it shows, but i guess you get what you pay for"

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

i was just reading what Kaine said about a back handed compliment and yeah i know this, iv said to a girl "hey nice jumper" she repplies "really?" i say "yeah its in fashion now, my grandmum and all her freinds wear ones just like it"

well basicly that is a good way to describe a neg hit, although it does not have to be a back handed compliment, it can just be showing intrest in somthing then dissing it, but space man what you did wrong with the neg hit was you just dissed her for no reason.

space man do not forget what i said above about when to use a neg hit.

and yeah i like the analgy of the DJ bible is like giving a kid a shotgun to.....

 

[xblitz44x]

Yes most of you guys have no idea what neg-hits even are. It is NOT an insult. That's where you're all screwing up. Even the "skinning your couch for that shirt" example was NOT a neg.

" iv said to a girl "hey nice jumper" she repplies "really?" i say "yeah its in fashion now, my grandmum and all her freinds wear ones just like it"

This is the right idea but you're still saying it as an insult because it's a little TOO blatent to get the effect. She'll be able to see right through it. She will never be able to see a true neg.

Last week I was sitting on the couch with a girl and I said "Your hair looks cute. I like how I can see your natural color coming in at the top. What's that called again, roots?" It was effective because I truely didn't realize that to point out that somebody's roots were showing is offensive, so she couldn't have taken it as an insult. And I also told her how much I liked it. So she got self-conscious about it instead of offended.

 

[biker_gixxer]

tells me her name* that shirt is fu cking ugly."

haha, glad to see you're not afraid to approach women, but only crap bro! You may want to pay attention to xblitz44x and check_mate. These guys know what they're talking about.

 

[squirrels]

If you want to know what a "neg-hit" is and how to use it, go to http://www.fastseduction.com and check out the "Player's Guide". It's explained better there than anywhere on this site.

It is NOT an insult and is NOT a "backhanded compliment." It's a qualifying tactic...something that will take girls with huge egos and break them down off their pedestals so they can be dealt with like any other woman. Mystery gives the example of the "fake nails".

"Nice nails. Are they real?"
"No...acrylic."
"Oh....well...they look nice anyway."

It's a compliment, but it breaks her down a level because she failed to meet your expectations.

xblitz's example is a little different from that...but the principle is the same. He's essentially giving her a compliment on her clothes, but at the same time he's comparing her to his grandmother. It's pretty much putting in her head, "I don't view you as some unattainable goddess. I put you on the same level socially as a close relative."

There's also a third kind, which is not really a neghit but is more of a playful teasing, which falls more under the context of the "****y/Funny attitude" that everyone talks about. This is where you might make fun of her or insult her in jest...but this requires rapport and you have to be the judge of that. Right after approaching a girl blind and giving your name, when she's still wary of you and rapport does not exist, is NOT the right time to start teasing her.

The one thing that most people miss is that a neghit is NOT an actual seduction technique. It's a way to lower girls' egos and place them into a mindset where you can USE seduction techniques. You use them on 9s and 10s who have high "b!tch shields" or heavy egos, and then just enough to knock them down to your level. Then you're DONE with them.

You're not going to "neghit" a girl and make her fall into your arms.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

firstly i would like to point out, squirrels you gave the credit for my example to some one else

anyway i think what is obvious is that a neg hit can be more then 1 thing, see i belive it should be done in a teasing way where as if you do it more subtely it cna just upset her and make you look like an a$$whole just pointing out bad things about other people. yesterday a girl i know was telling me how depresed she gets when her freinds (girls) point out observations aobut her, saying for exmaple that she is stuck up, well if a guy does this she will get equally upset.

Yet this kind of neg hit can be used to brake down certain girls that are to up themsleves. girls who do not need to be shown whos the boss to the same extent, can be teased with the other type of neg hit, the backhand compliment with is said in a joking way.

I think the mixed oppinion is down to the fact that these 2 things are both considered as neg hits and are both usefull in certain situations yet most people will only recognise 1 or the other as a proper neghit.

 

[Interpol]

Please God let this post be a joke...

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

Originally posted by Interpol
Please God let this post be a joke...

this is not a place of worship. If you want to pray, dont you have some other place where you can do that?

 

[ImSoHorny005]

Originally posted by spaceMAN
Ok i have an example of neg hits not working on a girl, maybe i'm doing it wrong, or maybe these girls were just stupid. well, here goes :

1. I saw this chick at school, she was like a 8.5, and i walked up to her and said, "Hi, i'm david, *tells me her name* that shirt is fu cking ugly." And then she just gave me a weird look, and walked away! I said to her i was just kidding, and she was like, ok, whatever. She talked to me a little more, but i kept trying neg. hits so she would like me but they didn't work... like after that^ i told her that her hair looks like she just got out of a Hurricane. She got pissed.

Your advice is welcomed.

Damn man, I have three words for you: LOL, LOL, LOL.......... No, there isn't anything logical about attraction, but it doesn't mean you should stop THINKING about your actions... How would YOU feel if someone did this to you?