Neg Hit re Hair Color, advisable ?

[Kodiac]

Ok, theres this check out chick im Interested in.
Quite HOT and friendly.

Recently, ive noticed she died her hair from blonde to red - doesn't look to bad, she still looks fine

But anyway, would this be a good opener ?
I used the hair line last weekend at the club at it was LAME.
I DONT have a hair FETISH damnit hehe.

Anyways, i was thinking of maybe a neg hit ;
I know her name from her name tag (Ruth).

Next time i get served by her;

Ruth "Hello, How are you"
Kodiac (smiling) "My god..what happened to the blonde Ruth ???"
or
"Ok, you look different.. (pause) ... ok, where'd you stash the blonde Ruth?"
Then look to insert the "Blondes have more fun" line.

Now, i have no idea how she would react to this.
But, it would be a conversation starter and hopefully will build some connection between us ie. . noticing her hair color change and by using her name.
Then build the convo on from this and number close.

To Use the hair comment or not ?

 

[squirrels]

"You dyed your hair! "
"Do you like it? "
<look her over, great opportunity to play with her hair (KINO)>
"Hmm...it looks good/it's interesting...but I think I liked the blonde better."
"Really? "
"Maybe I just need to get used to it. "

Smile the whole time.

That'd probably be how I'd do it. It's a compliment, but it lets her know you're still judging her (it's not an unconditional, idle compliment). Might be too much...I'd like some feedback on this myself.

 

[Phrozen]

How about a joke.

Why did the blonde dye her hair red?

So I would ask for her number.

 

[Kodiac]

Haha, love em' guys!

Might just have to give them a try on her!

 

[Drex]

Originally posted by Phrozen
How about a joke.

Why did the blonde dye her hair red?

So I would ask for her number.

I LOVE THAT!

 

[Nosferatu]

Kodiak,

You obviously haven't read the bible, otherwise you would know what a neg hit is used for.

It is certainly not used when dealing with a girl who you describe as "hot and friendly".

That being said, it might not be a bad idea to say something about her hair, as this would demonstrate that you are not afraid of her and it would seperate you from all the other AFCs who hit on her all day long.

This is called being ****y and funny. Do your homework and learn what the phrase "neg hit" means, and when to use it.

 

[Kodiac]

Do your homework and learn what the phrase "neg hit" means...

I think my examples were Neg hits, they were basically saying she looked better before.

...and when to use it.

Thats why i started this thread.

That being said, it might not be a bad idea to say something about her hair, as this would demonstrate that you are not afraid of her and it would seperate you from all the other AFCs who hit on her all day long.

Wouldn't a neg hit have the same effect ? Show her im not like all the AFC's who spend all day sucking up to her ?

I understand that she make act friendly and theres no denying she isn't hot, thats why i think the neg hit should be considered as ;

Her being friendly could just be part of the job.
She is hot - it will bring her off her pedestal (if she has one) and show i have balls. Plus it will keep her wandering about me and how im not like all the others - i will be a challenge.

As written in the bible - no rule is set in stone and is why i ASKED if i should use on in this SPECIFIC situation.

You obviously haven't read the bible, otherwise you would know what a neg hit is used for.

I obviously HAVE read the bible. Thank you for your advice.

 

[Julian]

Be like "so does the carpet match the new drapes too?"

Lmao

 

[Nosferatu]

Kodiak,

Here is what is painfully obvious: You have SCANNED the bible, but you did not assimilate it. We are talking about an extremely basic concept here. The neg hit is used to penetrate a b1tch shield.

The bible is VERY SPECIFIC about this.

Any other use of a neg hit is almost certain to backfire on you. This is clearly discussed in the bible.

The problem here is that you are in love with the phrase "Neg Hit". And why would you want to use a technique to "knock her off her pedestal IF SHE HAS ONE" when you have no idea whether or not she puts herself on a pedestal? And you say that her being friendly COULD be part of her job. Until you establish the reality of how she really is, then you should use techniques that are appropriate to find this out.

My two points are these:
It is important to use the correct terminolgy in the interest of good communication and to avoid misleading the newbies
and
We should use techniques based on reality, not on speculation.

It is absolutely appropriate to use a ****y style to seperate yourself from the AFCs. Being ****y and funny opens the door for you to evaluate her further. Neg hitting is used after you have established that she has her shield up.

She may be showing such friendliness to you because she really likes you...

 

[Igor]

Originally posted by Kodiac
Quite HOT and friendly.

Dude, you obviously haven't read the bible often enough. This is NOT the kind of situation that requires a neg hit. Fortunately your comments aren't neg hits anyway, more like some regular c+f.
I don't want to diss you, but you asked for opinions. My advice to you is:

1. Don't bother about neg-hits. You're making this more complicated than it could be.

2. Read the bible. Again. You're not stupid, we all need to read the bible several times to understand at least half of it.

3. Stop overanalysing and get some field experience. Maybe do a boot camp. Then you wouldn't be hesitating to talk to her, and you sure as hell wouldn't come here and ask "Should I say this? Or that?"

It might sound a bit harsh, but I still hope it helps you, I'm too much in a hurry to write more polite...

 

[Kodiac]

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16747&highlight=neghit

"The effect of a good neg-hit on a woman’s psyche is something to behold. It does 4 things simultaneously.

First, since those high quality women are used to men kissing their @ss, it will confuse them ( “This guy isn’t falling all over me like a puppy dog. Why is that? Is my (whatever flaw) really that bad?” ).

It throws them off balance and makes them self-conscious. Second, it will pique their curiosity about you, and you become something of a mystery. (”Why isn’t this guy acting like every other AFC I meet? How come my looks haven’t immediately charmed him? What is up with this guy?” )

Third, it will create a challenge (”This guy must have REALLY high standards. I don’t think he likes me. Everyone else likes me. I MUST get him to like me!” ).

Fourth, it lets her know that you don’t think she is anything special based on her looks ( “He isn’t amazed by how I look? Why? *GASP* Am I in the presence of a REAL man? Oh, I think my panties are wet!” ) After the neg-hit, watch her eyes. You will see her go “Hey!”, and then you will actually SEE her run through all 4 of those stages mentioned above. It really is amazing. With a few well-placed comments, you have created all the things that DJs strive so hard to create, and you have appeared to do it effortlessly.

EXAMPLES OF “CHOICE” NEG-HITS

Have you highlighted your hair? pause for her response Why do women ruin their luxurious (blond/black/brown/red) hair with highlights?

I hope the above examples of “choice” neg-hits give you a basis to get started. Use your imagination when coming up with one. With practice, they should get easier. Also, I cannot stress the importance of BEING SINCERE. If you think her hair is perfect, don’t use a hair neg-hit. It will be as false as Pamela Anderson’s boobs.

Newbies, what’s the first rule of women? Never listen to what they say always look at their actions. There is a reason for that rule.

Thanks for the advice guys.
Bible here we come.