Need REAL advice from REAL DJs: What do you focus the convo on?

[FreeStyleZ]

Well there are very few actual DJs on this board but I just want some tips from guys who are successful with chicks.

Im heading back to college in a week and am about to get back into DJ mode so I can score with some girls.. but I havent been doing any approaches for a while now. When I was however...

Basically my problem was always the actual conversation with a girl. I was really good at being confident and approaching and leading the conversation, but my fluff talk was nothing more than facts and stupid stuff that got me no where. After reading some stuff over at fastseduction.com I have found that the conversation aspect should include a few things:

Finding out what she values, topics getting her to feel emotion, possible sex talk, etc.

My question is, after your opener to get a conversation started, what do you focus on to actual get her to FEEL an attraction for you. Ive had alot of conversations that just go no further than me finding out information like where she's from, her major, and other dumb ****.. which just leads to a phone number and no follow up. What is there to talk about that will actually make her WANT you and want to actually meet up with you again. Alot of what I read at fastseduction seems like good stuff, im just looking for more ideas. What I have so far is that you should ask her about stuff she's interested in, things to get her to feel emotions, should find out what she values, throw in some fluff talk and C+F, along with mirroring and some sex talk... is there any thing else? Is this about right?

 

[silverwex]

Ask her open ended and interesting questions like:

Whats the most exciting thing you ever did?

What is the most embarassing thing you have ever done?

If you won the lottery what would you buy and why?

If you were stuck on an island...

Things like that.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Stay away from the fluff talk. It's boring and very limited. After a minute or two of it, you're both bored and you're stuck looking for something else to say.

Good conversations are fluid, dynamic and free flowing. They can take any direction and you can not do that when you rehearse by preparing lists of chit chat topics. Since you are going back to school, guess what topic that you will have in common with every girl on campus? That's right, school!

If you're in the cafeteria, find out what's good from the honey in front of you in line, then ask to share a table. Find out what she's taking and what's her major. If you guys have some classes in common, guess what? You can spend time together comparing notes, after that you can both go out for happy hour at the local hole in the wall or whatever.

Yes, open end questions are the best but they shouldn't sound like a survey. Start off on the common situation that the two of you are sharing at that time or place and expand from there.

 

[dip]

Originally posted by FreeStyleZ
Im heading back to college in a week and am about to get back into DJ mode so I can score with some girls..

you never should have came out of the DJ mode...ur supposed to don everyone possible

 

[Lifeforce]

No, its about totally ****ed up!

You don't get her to FEEL attraction to you, she either does or don't. What you want to do is to get her to act on the attraction. Actually, I think your problem is that you worry too much and are too fixed with techniques and stuff. It seems you see conversation as some sort of work.

Lighten up, don't give a flying **** about the convo... comment on stuff, throw in some flirty comments, touch her... tease her... ehh.. touch her a little more for the sake of it.. find out what works for you, not by doing work but having fun. Every situation is different... so doing techniques and stuff is worthless. Talk with some more girls and after a while you'll develop your own style and you'll start to feel the mood of the convo and what to do.

Get in theee moood you know before you talk to girls, mood is everything, listen to some music and feel great. do some sexy dance moves before you go out.. be pumped and drop the techniques as soon as you are ready to do so

 

[FreeStyleZ]

No wonder people say the board is dead... did the last guy here just actually tell me you can talk about anything and it doesnt matter? And say that you dont get her to feel attraction? Its already in the DJ bible that you must get her to feel emotion and things of that sort.... but if none of that matters and all you must do is have any conversation with her then I guess everyone could be a DJ and we can do away with the site? Or throw the bible out at least seeing how it doesnt matter what you conversate about. The DJ bible and fastseduction.com clearly state otherwise....

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Good luck with college bro. Its a good time of your life.

Back to your questions.

In everything you do, say or act..there is ultimately one word that will make you irresistable to women and put you a cut above the rest of those AFCs out there.

AMBITION

When it comes to anything...show ambition, show a sense of direction, show her that you are a MAN that will make things happen in your life...and if she's lucky enough...you can make things happen in her life too.

Francisco is correct that conversations should be fluid and dynamic. Screw the fluff talk. Most male to female interactions should be 30/70 with her talking more.

Asking open ended questions will help you gain more insite on your girl, and, will let you direct the way the conversation goes.

When she starts talking that she's in college because she wants to learn foreign languege...LISTEN to her. If she mentions Europe, then, you flow the conversation into the time you went backpacking in Europe. Link the subjects of the conversation to start new ones..and so on.

I'd get into detail, but, I think you catch my drift. If not..I'll post later.

But, do show charm, charisma, and most of all AMBITION. Show her you are a man going somewhere in life - She shouldnt miss the boat.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by FreeStyleZ
No wonder people say the board is dead... did the last guy here just actually tell me you can talk about anything and it doesnt matter? And say that you dont get her to feel attraction? Its already in the DJ bible that you must get her to feel emotion and things of that sort.... but if none of that matters and all you must do is have any conversation with her then I guess everyone could be a DJ and we can do away with the site? Or throw the bible out at least seeing how it doesnt matter what you conversate about. The DJ bible and fastseduction.com clearly state otherwise....

You asked for advice, and you flame me? Now listen you ****ing lameass

I told you to don't give a **** about the convo! If you actually could manage to get out from that ****ing fear of doing something wrong you wouldn't be in here to ask these stupid questions. There is a huge ****ing difference between don't giving a **** about the convo and to talk about anything. You should try it, experiment on what works, it took me a couple of hundred of approaches to get the basics down. Anything you read here is just knowledge, out there it becomes wisdom. And saying the wrong stuff is actually what you will learn the most from. Duh!

And getting her to feel emotions shouldn't be about doing some work. When you talk to a girl, you open up your world to show her. You know how many times a girl have had a guy ask her all sorts of questions and interviewing her, about 12323452534 times, so you are not the first believe me. They are bored with it, or is it just me who are too bored to listen to them rambling about themselves? I try to avoid talkign and DOING STUFF WITH HER instread.

My goal is to have fun with her, and when I have fun, we have a fun convo going. I tell her stories, and make her tell some too, I tease her about anything I can find, and when she teases me back I push her a little. I am C&F to her, but I don't think about it, now I am about to be C&F, it all comes naturally, it come because of my ATTITUDE and my STATE OF MIND... IMO the best convo is when you have fun and throw in some sexual stuff in between to feel the excitement. Interviewing is for losers, she will actually learn soo much more from being with you than if you say.. "I like to try new stuff and..." and you learn alot more from her if you hang out with her.

And NO, you don't get her to feel attraction, you make her act on it most of the time unless you only approach cold ass *****es. Which is really stupid since they only make you waste time and fun. If you approach people who actually show you interest then you can have fun and get some, instead of approaching a ***** and have a lousy time to get some. See the difference. And if you don't like the women who are attracted to you, then you are not good enough yet and need to improve.

Another good thing about having her interested before you approach is so SHE will try to keep the convo flowing too, if she is interested, you can play around with her as you like. You literally can be yourself and don't give a flying **** about any technique or how the convo is going. That's the perk of self improvement. You don't need to do ****. It just comes down to improving yourself and don't give a rats ass how the outcome is.

And if I actually could write any good english this would make some sense.

Lifeforce

 

[FreeStyleZ]

Well that was far too long winded... i basically skimmed over it and saw that you answered my initial question with this here:

My goal is to have fun with her, and when I have fun, we have a fun convo going. I tell her stories, and make her tell some too, I tease her about anything I can find, and when she teases me back I push her a little. I am C&F to her, but I don't think about it, now I am about to be C&F, it all comes naturally, it come because of my ATTITUDE and my STATE OF MIND... IMO the best convo is when you have fun and throw in some sexual stuff in between to feel the excitement. Interviewing is for losers, she will actually learn soo much more from being with you than if you say.. "I like to try new stuff and..." and you learn alot more from her if you hang out with her.

You just said that you tell stories, tease her about things, are C+F... that answeres my question. And i know that interviewing is boring, thats why I simply asked about content of the conversation. Thanks for answering my question, but no thanks to typing up 5 paragraphs in an attempt to save face.

 

[BRYCEicl]

Don't ask her sh1t. Try a conversation with only statements. When you ask her questions such as where do you work, where do you go to school you automatically make her feel that you are a stranger because only strangers ask this. Second of all just the action of asking puts her on a pedestal. If she says she likes something support her and say I like that too!

Examples
BRYCEicl: Hey what r u doing.
Sexy Girl: Oh just chillin.
BRYCEicl: Cool I'm about to go to the gym.
(Now think about it, what do you want to convey to each girl? Each girl likes different things. You find out her values through reading her speech and then convey through statements that you have the same values. Now it just so happens that I know Sexy Girl likes to run, therefore she likes to exercise. I am conveying that I am like her, I like to exercise because I'm going to the gym. Now I wouldn't say this to a girl who doesn't exercise much and plays sports. I would say
BRYCEicl: I'm chillin too. I just saw some Olympic tennis on the television.
Sexy Girl: Oh cool, I like tennis.
BRYCEicl: Do you play any other sports?
Sexy Girl: Soccer
BRYCEicl: I watched some soccer too, Iraq is doing pretty well.


A lot of it has to do with my attitude as well. I'm not going to be scared to talk to someone. If I find myself scared then I make myself talk to them. Remember you are learning, your attitude should be "What would happen if I say this? How would this make her feel?" Experiment and don't be afraid to make mistakes.

Now once you've got it down you have to be bold and act when her attraction to you is high. When you to are heavily flirtying, pull her aside and kiss her passionetly. Be bold, dive on in. If you want it it's here, fvckin take it.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by FreeStyleZ
Well that was far too long winded... i basically skimmed over it and saw that you answered my initial question with this here:

You just said that you tell stories, tease her about things, are C+F... that answeres my question. And i know that interviewing is boring, thats why I simply asked about content of the conversation. Thanks for answering my question, but no thanks to typing up 5 paragraphs in an attempt to save face.

I have worked hard to become what I am today, REAL hard, so don't stick any **** to me.

I said that you should base your success in improving yourself, not by using techniques. I came here and was WWWBAFC. The first I did was to focus on techniques, I went out and ****ed myself up... so I tried to learn more mental tricks and seduction techniques, went out again and ****ed me up... after around 500+ approaches I realized that it didn't work.

So I started with serious self improvement, better girls were attracted to me, girls who I thought would never date me because they were so good looking I never look at now because they are below my standards! I go for girls who are already attracted to me, I NEVER try to seduce them, I don't use techniqes that I am aware off, you don't really need any techniques, all you need is self confidence and some balls! All the techniques here are made for you to feel more confident, to give you some choices what to do. Choices = self confidence.

Seriously, forget everything you know, and just go out there and talk to some girls. Feel the response of what you are saying, try to get that gut feeling. Improve yourself, read some stuff here to compare what you have learnt and go out again in the field. This is THE best way to get the game going. And read AD's machine, pooks be a man and fingerz 10 commandment, WOMS. Strive for your ideal and you'll be fine, you will learn how to talk with people because you can feel yourself when a conversation suck, after doing the same stuff a couple of times you'll realize what is wrong in your convo and improve it.