Need MASTER tips on the fine art of "PULLING BACK". Sincere Only.

blayde

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I've posted quite a few times in the tips section, but im throwing out a gonzo for a change and need some tips. Im asking for sincere responses only, cause this aint a joke.

I met someone at a Saturn Car Dealership and we did the classic HIT IT OFF thing. Without too many details, she was from out of town and going back to New York in about a week, and we made a conscious decision to spend most of the week together.

I know this may seem to VIOLATE a rule of two, but the decision was made by using logic and opportunity.

The week was incredible and i got to know her pretty well. She apparently fell for me (Im a law student) but I dont see the level of commitment(OK, let me admit right now that im interested in marrying this girl) to spending time together. So Im in a bad spot.

I HAVE(havnt totally lost my senses) kept all options open and still date other women. But HERES THE PROBLEM.

1. She's put me into the position of chasing her, and I WANT to chase her.

2. She refuses(in so many words) to make a commitment to spending more time together even though she's serious about me.

I KNOW i have to make her chase me(interest level) but im just not sure how to do it long distance.
 

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You're asking for information on the correct way to take control of a relationship you're trying to conduct from the other side of the continent!

Apart from the warning signs "I WANT to chase her" and "She refuses(in so many words) to make a commitment" that mean that you are in serious danger of getting your heart trampled on by this woman, you can't even date her regularly let alone get close enough to her to consider marriage.

I know this isn't the answer you want, but there's nothing any master DJ or anyone else could do to make this relationship work!

The phrase is "Lets just be friends" use it, put her on the "girls I use to compare potential dates to" list, and let it go.

If you are very lucky, and destiny exists, maybe your paths will cross again, with more chance of success the next time around.

But the DJ thing to do is say "Hey I made it with that great girl, that means I can make it with the other great girl over there!" and not bust your balls over something you can't control.

And you can't control the distance that God put between Arizona and New York state.
 

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Originally posted by blayde
I HAVE(havnt totally lost my senses) kept all options open and still date other women.
Here is another perspective to consider, I will have to comment on your second question first:

2. She refuses(in so many words) to make a commitment to spending more time together even though she's serious about me.
One of life's truths is that no matter what she says, a woman's interest level is based upon what she does. Actions speak louder than words.

1. She's put me into the position of chasing her, and I WANT to chase her.
Knowing the truth from the previous question, why would you choose to put yourself into this type of situation? Unless you are willing to contribute a lot on the hopes of what could happen, I would ease back a bit and adjust to her reactions.

I KNOW i have to make her chase me(interest level) but im just not sure how to do it long distance.
Long distance takes more fortitude and patience than anything. If you aren't careful, you could fall into the mode of AFC in trying to get a reaction from her over the distance.

It's your call, but make sure you thoroughly consider everything.
 

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Yeah , see I practically never meet a hot woman that I want any more than any other hot woman so this sorta situation never arises for me.

In your position I'd tell her you're crazy for her then go f*** ten other women. In the meantime if she wants you she'll quit this game playing and if not , my god , how bad would it be to be in love with a game player?
 
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Pick up a copy of the book for women called "the rules" she is playing her game straight outta that book. All you gotta do is just reverse the game and play them back on her.

the following is a posting from another site:

"Rules of Power Live by the rules or suffer the blues!

Law 1 Never reveal your intentions (Keep people off balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. If they have no clue what you are up to, they cannot prepare a defence. Guide them far enough down the wrong path, envelop them in enough smoke, and by the time they realise your intentions, it will be too late:)
Law 2 Always say less than is necessary.

Law 3 Court attention at all costs

Law 4 Make other people come to you - use bait if necessary.

Law 5 Win through your actions, never through argument. (Any momentary triumph you win though argument is really a Pyrrhic victory: The resentment and ill will you stir up is stronger and lasts longer than any momentary change in opinion. It is much more powerful to get others to agree with you though your actions, without saying a word. Demonstrate, do not explicate.)

Law 6 Infection: Avoid the unhappy and unlucky (it works the other way also. This is an alternative take on social-proof, or pivots or whatever you want to call them, as well as wingmen. Also advice on not getting involved with the wrong girl.)

Law 7 Learn to keep people dependent on you.

Law 8 Use selective generosity to disarm your victim (One sincere and honest move will cover over dozens of dishonest ones. Openhearted gestures of honesty and generosity bring down the guard of even the most suspicious people. Once your selective honesty opens a hole in their armour, you can deceive and manipulate at will:)

Law 9 When asking for help, appeal to people's self interest, never to their mercy or gratitude. Eg....before asking her on a date, make a case about people who don'`t go out anywhere to have any fun, and how boring and unappealing that is, ofcourse all the time making sure she agrees with you

Law 10 Pose as a friend, work as a spy.

Law 11 Use absence to increase respect and honour. (Again through mystery and not stuffing it up by staying too long and doing or saying something wrong.) Never supplicate!!

Law 12 Keep others in suspended terror: Cultivate an air of unpredictability.

Law 13 Do not build fortresses to protect yourself - Isolation is dangerous. (Get out there amongst them).

Law 14 Know who you are dealing with - do not offend the wrong person.

Law 15 Do not commit yourself to anyone.

Law 16 Play a sucker to catch a sucker - appear dumber than your mark. (Let her think that she is in control and smart, less naive, don't let on you are a player).

Law 17 Re-create yourself (Do not accept the roles that society foists on you. Re-create yourself by forging a new identity, one that commands attention and never bores the audience. Be the master of your own image rather than letting others define it for you. Incorporate dynamic devices into your public gestures and actions - your power will be enhanced and your character will seem larger than life).

Law 18 Keep your hands clean. (You must seem a paragon of civility and efficiency: Your hands are never soiled by mistakes and nasty deeds. Maintain such a spotless appearance by using others as scapegoats and cat' s-paws to disguise your involvement).

Law 19: Play on peoples need to believe to create a cult like following.

Law 20 Enter action with Boldness. (If you are unsure of a course of action, do not attempt it. Your doubts and hesitations will infect your execution. Timidity is dangerous: Better to enter with boldness. Any mistakes you make through audacity are easily corrected with more audacity. Everyone admires the bold; no one honours the timid).

Law 21 Plan all the way to the end.

Law 22 Make your accomplishments seem effortless. (Your actions must seem natural and executed with ease. All the toil and practice that goes into them, also all the clever tricks, must be concealed. When you act, act effortlessly, as if you could do much more. Avoid the temptation of revealing how hard you work - it only raises questions. Teach no one your tricks or they will be used against you ...

Law 23 Control the options: Get others to play with the cards you deal. (The best deceptions are the ones that seem to give the other person a choice: Your victims feel they are in control, but are actually your puppets. Give people options that come out in your favour whichever one they choose. Force them to make choices between the lesser of two evils, both of which serve your purpose. Put them on the horns of the dilemma: they are gored wherever they turn.

Law 24 Play to people's fantasies.

Law 25 Be royal in your own fashion: Act like a king to be treated like one.

Law 26 Master the art of timing. (Never seem to be in a hurry - hurrying betrays a lack of control over yourself, and over time. Always seem patient, as if you know that everything will come to you eventually. Become a detective of the right moment; sniff out the spirit of the times, the trends that will carry you to power. Learn to stand back when the time is not yet ripe, and to strike fiercely when it has reached fruition.)

Law 27 Disdain things you cannot have: Ignoring them is the best revenge.

Law 28 Create compelling spectacles. (Striking imagery and grand symbolic gestures create the aura of power - everyone responds to them. Stage spectacles for those around you, then, full of arresting visuals and radiant symbols to heighten your presence. Dazzled by appearances, no one will notice what you are really doing.)

Law 29 Despise the free Lunch.

Law 30 Work on the hearts and minds of others.

Law 31 Disarm and infuriate with the mirror effect. (The mirror reflects reality, but is the perfect tool for deception: When you mirror your enemies, doing exactly as they do, they cannot figure out your strategy. The mirror Effect mocks and humiliates them, making them overreact. By holding up a mirror to their psyches, you seduce them with the illusion that you share their values; by holding up a mirror to their actions you teach them a lesson. Few can resist the power of the mirror effect.)

Law 32 Assume formlessness. (By taking a shape, by having a visible plan, you open yourself to attact. Instead of taking a form for the girl to grasp, keep yourself adaptable and on the move. Accept the fact that nothing is certain and no law is fixed. The best way to protect yourself is to be as fluid and formless as water: never bet on stability or lasting order. Everything changes.)"
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This is part of an email newsletter that I recieved this weekend:

You must change the way you THINK about this
situation. No "magic technique" will help you.

Step 1: Stop calling her.

Step 2: Start dating other women.

Step 3: Make sure she knows that you're dating
other women.

Step 4: Continue to move on with your life.

Ironically, this sequence will create your very
best chances of eventually getting a date with
this particular woman.

It's still a SLIM chance, but if you're serious,
then this is the way to do it.
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I hope these 2 postings help
 
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Supreme could you give me some examples of how to do these laws cause i understand how to do most of them some i dont understand how to execute.
 
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