Hey Rushing dude 123, i usually don't visit this site anymore because in my opinion the majority of it is just filled with KJism. But ur post about direct game definitely had to get a feedback reply. Why? Because i am a HUGE supporter of direct game.
SuaveSauve said:
i think its going to work if u are really good looking, have a nice car, money, bunch of friends and a rich family. i bet its going to work for sure.
-1 Reputation right there. No lie. Thats a slap in the face to direct. Quit it. The sarcasm has made it worse.
BibleBelt said:
If you guys want to go bother girls at the mall and get laid out of it, the one thing you have to avoid is being creepy, mostly because most girls would honestly think you were creepy if they knew that you did things like go to the mall to hit on girls. I'm not saying it can't work, but never admit to any woman that is what you're doing. Also do everything to structure the interaction so that she can't tell you are there practicing your "direct game."
The term bothering is definitely wrong.
They want to be approached! Why else would they look good during the day if they didn't have to?
Rush Dude said:
"you look pretty cute whats ur number" (worked twice failed 12 times)
"hey there i saw u and just wanted to meet u, my names jordan and whats urs" (failed twice, maybe has potential though)
"hey sorry to bother u, i know ur probablly busy and i kind of got to go now, but i think u have an interesting (or intriguing) look about u, (then i either ask for number or ask name)....(but the 6 times i tried this it failed)
"Hey can I talk to you for 2 minutes?"
"I have a question, are you single?"
Opener 1 can work but it will only work if u've approaches a **** LOAD of approaches before u get a lay. Why? Because its too soon. They gotta atleast talk to u for atleast longer than 10 seconds, ya know?
Opener 2 is the best one out of the lot. It has the most potential. Ur not bull****ting around. Ur just right to the point.
Opener 3 is ok, but there's too much "approval seeking" with this approach. Why? Because ur telling her that u believe ur bothering her, when in fact she'll let u know if u are. Don't assume u are. But the interesting look about her, be specific about it.
Opener 4 is not good, because ur trying to get her permission for her talk to you. U give urself permission. She'll let u know if she doesn't want to talk.
Opener 5 can work, but not a good idea. Why? Because even if a girl is single, sometimes they'll say they're taken. Why is this? Because in the weird mind of a female, some believe that if they're not in a relationship, they're not as valuable and wanted as much.
Rushing Dude, i think you should try this opening. This usually gets good responses and usually the unattractive/ok girls react any bit remotely uninterested is this:
If you see a straight up bombshell, i'm talking a ten:
"You are so beautiful....i'm going to talk to you right now/meet you/get to know you"
If you see a hot girl, almost a ten:
"I find you stunning....i have to talk to you know. I got no choice even if i tried to have one"
If you see a cute girl, you know which ones these are:
"You are sooo cute...look at you....time to meet you now"
Why have these been effective opening? Because ur diving into ur desire for her. U are going for what u want. Its what they've want to hear but don't expect. Its why they dress the way they do. Its why they're so good looking. Its all for this. Ur conveying that she meets ur criteria looks wise and since she fits, time to talk to her. Saying u must meet her/have to meet her/will meet her....this demonstrates dominance and confidence. Why? Because ur conveying to her that she is a girl that is worth talking to you and by default she will enjoy ur company. What guy does this in the right manner? Most don't.
Don't confuse this with a compliment. They are different. A compliment when u make a positive statement about someone in a good light. Qualifying is when u see that same positive thing u mentioned, but ur fitting in ur criteria. Thats the different between a direct approach and just a compliment. Remember though, u have to have a warm smile and seductive eyes. Be enthusastic to meet her. Show this. Watch how ur reactions will be. This works best on girls u find good looking. The lesser ones won't respond as positively to it, because of ego protection. Their ego can't accept that a guy likes their looks or doesn't believe it.
Daygameguy said:
direct game is sad my friend. Unless you have a heart made of steel. Go indirect, be interesting, have a genuine connection, and then close.
Indirect is more sad. Too many of the guys learning it feeling that they have to hide their interest and fly under the radar, then having to be "reaction-seeking" of only showing interest once she shows it.
But...of having a heart of steel...Thats the point of direct. To not be destroyed by rejection. Learning direct forces u to be at peace with the big "R". But u develop a genuine connection being indirect? C'mon man...thats the antithesis of a connection. Direct will further strengthen that connection. Ur not hiding ur intent of being interested in her. She has a general idea now. She can take it or leave it. Thats a better connection than her guessing why ur even there and then u being led on to where she wasn't into u "That way" in the first place. Direct reinforces that u already are interesting. We are a thousand times more interesting than a routine. It forces u to bring out the self u are suppose to be, ur happy, relaxed, calm and sexual self.
"Indirect opens easier, but closing is harder . Direct, opening's harder if ur inexperienced, but closing is easier.
~Badboy"
@Snowplowman:
I agree my man. The indirect vs. Direct thing should just stop i'd say. Even some of the direct practioners get old with bashing indirect. I don't like indirect AT all and see no purpose but at the same time, guys who do it well and are still open to other forms of game working, including direct, i see no problem with it either. The indirect mindset was a Smart idea when the pioneers found it, but the way they taught was in the wrong light imo. It caused too many practioners' inner game to fvck up.
Etch said:
somebody said ask for the number at or near the end of the set
No this is bad never ask for a number at the end of convo it promotes flakes and demonstrates that you were just chasing a number you should linger after number and give the impression that you are genuinely interested and not being forced to ask for the number by a time constraint or now or never attitude.
I'd say Etch i believe its ok when the interactions about to close. But yea, afterward, ur right i'd talk for a little longer after. But etch, sometimes the time constraints do happen in actuality. I think its best BEFORE that to mention the time constraint and that u will talk on the phone before getting the number. Ya know?
Those are my two cents.