Need help dealing with regret from missed opportunity

Genos

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So this past May, I was with a girl - we were pretty damn close; I had known her for 1.5 years, but we only started getting a little more intimate/physical for about a month or two. It's would probably be an understatement to say this girl was my oneitis, damn, I was obsessed with her. In fact, I shared my first kiss with her (at 21yrs old >__>).

We're both in uni, but she's a year above me; before her graduation, we were escalating. She pulled me to an empty dorm room, we were making out, feeling each other up. I was enjoying it (getting sexual with your oneitis - how often does that happen?), but...I was super nervous and didn't want to have sex.

I was worried my d1ck wouldn't stay hard (fapped to porn a bit too much back then), what if I screwed up, came too quickly, was bad in bed, etc., random insecurities going through my head...I think I liked her TOO much to risk having sex with her, as weird as that sounds. So I said "I don't have condom, we shouldn't do this, we can't have sex", and said we should stop; no penetration, oral, or anything, we got as far as me sucking on her breasts and a little petting. She was even ok with doing it without a condom, but I insisted we shouldn't...It was super lame...she probably (definitely, actually) lost some attraction for me, she was probably a little disappointed...

Soon after, we separated, due to various things. About six weeks ago, she even cut off contact with me completely (I've kept up NC since then). I've come to accept that she's gone, and that's ok.

So here I am; but admittedly I'm a little scarred by the experience. The amount of self-development I've done this summer is insane, and I'm confident that I could do well with women in my final year of college, attract new prospects, etc.; but what's been haunting me is that I've missed this opportunity. My desire to pursue women isn't gone, but it definitely diminished a bit.

I read this passage from Chateau Heartiste the other day and it really got to me:

"Another important point to make is that men who have tight game will never recapture the glory of their first sexual experiences when the raw emotions flooded them with abandon. Game is like coke: The highs are always great, but each snort numbs your brain a little more. When you can attract an acceptable number of good looking girls at will, the sex is going to become less momentous. It’s an occupational hazard. In comparison to your current game-fueled bounty, an ex from long ago will seem of outsized importance in your mind simply because your emotions then were more uncontrollable and etched a stronger impression on your memory. In reality, that first love may not be as objectively good as the girls you are currently ****ing, but your mind has played a trick on you and you can no longer make an unbiased judgement."


The emotions I felt for this girl were absolutely as described above, passionate, uncontrollable - and we didn't even go all the way and have sex. But now that I'm probably 100x more game aware than I was back in May when I was probably 50% beta, I'm finding it difficult to invest myself emotionally in a girl as much as I did.

And I'm worried that I won't feel as much for another woman as I did with her. Whenever I see or hear some reference to sex in books or on tv, or losing your virginity or whatever, I think to myself "lol fk man...I had that opportunity." It's probably the case that I lost this girl because I didn't have sex with her when I had the opportunity to do so...when we were talking the day afterwards, she even teased me (lightheartedly): "missed opportunity Konduit!" Which really stings haha. I didn't think much of it then, but since I now realize that not going all the way when we could have contributed to us separating, it's meant a lot more to me.

Anyway, yeah, just trying to deal with regret from having missed this opportunity...I still have the vivid memories from that night when we were cuddling in my mind...any advice on how to reinvest myself in other women and move past this experience?
 
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I had a oneitis from high school - fvcked it up royally when I was 21 and she flew in to see me. I was Forrest Gump and she was Jenny. Then, about seven years later, she stood me up for my high school reunion. She's been married twice since then. Out of nowhere, she sent me a facebook message a month or so ago. Just a simple, "hi, miss you, how have you been?"

I just replied, "good to hear from you, give me a call at this # and we'll catch up."

...and nothing. I don't even want her that badly anymore, but I fvcked that relationship up so badly 17 years ago, that she still can't deal with talking to me to this day.

Just let it go when you fvck up. Give up on that girl. You've dug yourself a hole, and at least with new women you start at zero, instead of a negative number from being afc in the past. If it helps you with perspective, my former oneitis has kept herself in great shape, but she still can't compete looks-wise with younger women, whom I have no problem attracting. Men go up in market value over time, and women only go down.
 

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I'd say this is a great learning experience for you because you know never to miss another opportunity like that again when you know how it feels to have that happen. Living with regret will hurt your confidence when you let it get the best of you, it happened so say fvck it and don't let it happen again. It was one girl, let it go, look how many more other opportunities you are going to have. After you bang more women you won't even remember her at all.
 

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Thanks for the support so far guys.

Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic, but having stopped halfway, being in the grey area of my interaction with this girl is another thing that kind of weighs on my mind...all of the passion/excitement, the things you say to each other for your first night, etc. didn't culminate in something. So when I actually have sex, it won't be same, I dunno. I'm definitely being a drama queen here, but those are the thoughts that are going through my head...

The thing is, I feel so unmanly...having had a shot and turned it down. When I imagine getting intimate with some of the girls I'm close to now, I remember how beta I acted that night, and literally cringe >_>
 

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Konduit said:
The thing is, I feel so unmanly...having had a shot and turned it down. When I imagine getting intimate with some of the girls I'm close to now, I remember how beta I acted that night, and literally cringe >_>
It happens man. I had a LTR/first love/sex in high school but then when i got out of it i realized how completely unequipped i was with women, i had become so comfortable with one person. I was scared shîtless of hooking up with new girls, and i pussied out just like u did with probably 5-10 girls. I had one girl literally on her knees waiting for me to pull my dîck out and i got scared of not being able to get hard or whatever and pretended i heard someone coming... Hha how pathetic is that?

The thing is you must get over yourself, you are probably a highly sensitive and self-critical guy and beat yourself up over every perceived failure like I did (and still do). But you have to accept that, succeed or fail, it simply does not matter in the scheme of things. Just enjoy that beautiful woman and dont put so much pressure on it, she isnt as important as you think, and neither are you. You are young, you get PLENTY of chances.. Just keep at it brother.
 

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Reviving this thread from the grave...lately I've been thinking about this girl (who brought me to this forum), and have a few unresolved issues.

Not having sex with her when I had the chance (because I was too dumb, was afraid I couldn't get hard/couldn't perform) I realize was a mistake. I've accepted that and am working on moving on...but what I've been wondering about is the effect that I might have had on her.

I'm worried that because I turned her down (and made up some lame excuse like 'we don't have a condom'), it may have damaged her pride. It's even more odd that I turned her down because I was the one who was making assertive advances in the first place. Even trying and failing, or showing her a limp **** would've been better, as she would've known I was at least man enough to try. As she finally became more forward in a sexual way (what I had been hoping for since forever), reaching for my ****, kissing me passionately, I choked/panicked and turned her away - I fear this may have really hurt her.

If that's what's happened, I don't think there's anything i can do about it now (to tell her that it wasn't her fault I didn't want to go further, it was my own)...but how do I get rid of these pangs of regret I feel?

I'm literally scared of sex now
, because I missed this opportunity with my oneitis. I can't fully invest myself in other girls because of the mistakes I made. Even later, during the summer, there were periods where I could've asked her out to try again, but I was just too beta and couldn't do it.

It really hit me, when earlier today I saw an amateur porno vid with a girl who looked like my ex (and fapped to it, no less), and I realized how lame and pathetic I was. Even 6 months since this happened (4 months NC), I still can't let go of those memories. Gahh, I just want to punch myself in the face for how pathetic I was back then, and how little progress I've made and how pathetic I am still today.

Dammit, how do I let go guys? How do I get rid of the feeling that I may have hurt her? She was the only girl with whom I was intimate...and its for that reason the memories cling to my mind so strongly. I screwed up my first time, big time.

REALLY need to cut out the porn, fapping too much and weakening my sexual system is what's indirectly caused all these problems, I didn't think I could get it up...
 

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Hey man, just want to let you know it sounds like I was in your exact situation a few months ago when you made this thread. I'm a 21 y/o male, and during June-July I was hitting it off with this chick a couple years younger (19) as a beta virgin. Things seemed real good for a while. Little did I know I had absolutely zero game. And I had a chance to have sex with her, got to second base with her top off, told her I couldn't find the condom (which was true cuz I was drunk but it was in my wallet in my pocket. I could have got it if I really wanted to).

It stung so much man. She went cold literally out of nowhere and I haven't heard from her since. I tried reaching out and it made things 100x worse to the point it was all I thought about.

Eventually a few weeks after the "break up" I gradually started stop thinking about her to the point of not at all. I focused on myself more, worked out, enjoyed solitude and hanging out with friends.

Around a month later I met this foreign chick who's 4 years older than the previous girl (23) and wayyyyyy hotter. Using what I learned on these forums and other sites, I was able to fu*k her within 10 days of meeting her with minimal effort on my part, and have a few times since then as well.

If it weren't for me fu*king it up the first time around and feeling completely destroyed after the incident I would never have the knowledge or experience that I do now. If you were to show me a film of how my sex life would be now, 3 months ago, I would have laughed it off and said "no way."

Now I look back and am actually GLAD I didn't fu*k her. She wasn't my type. I wouldn't take her back if she begged me.

Bottom line is you need to forgive yourself. She probably hurt you just as much if not worse than you hurt her. You didn't know any better. Accept it and move on. Learn from your mistakes. It'll get better with time.
 

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Similar position.

That was good about your mind playing tricks on you etc with your first love, but even realizing it doesn't change the way you feel.

I struggle because she was the right person at the wrong time. I had no clue and was so beta i'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. There was literally 50 obvious mistakes I made.

But these are lessons everyone has to learn. Everyone's first love will have a hold over them, all you can do is meet someone new and hope one day the first love seems insignificant in comparison, but i don't know if even a hotter girl would get to that intenseness. But that's me being soppy. Just gotta tell yourself your a man and move on with a smilen.
 

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It's like when we always advice ourselves to never get so invested in a girl. Same thing applies to situations of regret. We can keep over thinking and over thinking and it will become our 'oneitis' but then at the end of the day we're still at square one.

You're only human, give yourself that moment of disappointment, review and learn then simply move on. Never let anything get to you because it is up to you to decide if these things are worth mulling over. Things that matter such as your passions, family and friends, your career are worth such thoughts; these, are not.
 

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I remember this girl (23) and I was 29. We had an amazing connection. It was our third date. She had her roommate "disappear" for the night, and she invited me to her apartment to " watch a movie." I brought a funny movie and a bottle of wine. It was so "on."

I lean over to kiss her. She responds positively, and we make out. But the TV was still on. I found it distracting, but I didn't want to disrupt our passionate makeout session by reaching for the remote.

Finally, a REALLY funny scene in the movie is heard by me. (I'm an auditory type. Can't focus with too much background sound.) I pulled back and burst out LAUGHING. I didn't mean to interrupt our moment together, but I couldn't help it.

She got VERY turned off and later showed me the door. It was over. She wouldn't talk to me ever again :(.

If she was a gf that I had been dating for months, it would not have been a problem. Laughing during a makeout would be considered "cute." It was have led to more teasing, laughing, or a fun pillow fight, and then foreplay would have continued. But, like the OP, I was still in that early "pre-sex probationary period" with the girl where mistakes are not tolerated.

I've certainly moved on, but ten years later, I still think about her. And I never bring a funny movie over for date three lol.

But everything happens for a reason. What if you did her raw as she asked and she got pregnant? What if your sweet gf later turned out to be a demanding bytch? We like to BELIEVE that it "would have been happy ever after," but we actually don't KNOW that for sure.

Don't beat yourself up man. Just learn from it and move on.
 

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very true. mrs oneitus could've cheated on you ten years into a relationship and then what.

gotta try and be objective.
 

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Konduit said:
Reviving this thread from the grave...lately I've been thinking about this girl (who brought me to this forum), and have a few unresolved issues.

Not having sex with her when I had the chance (because I was too dumb, was afraid I couldn't get hard/couldn't perform) I realize was a mistake. I've accepted that and am working on moving on...but what I've been wondering about is the effect that I might have had on her.

I'm worried that because I turned her down (and made up some lame excuse like 'we don't have a condom'), it may have damaged her pride. It's even more odd that I turned her down because I was the one who was making assertive advances in the first place. Even trying and failing, or showing her a limp **** would've been better, as she would've known I was at least man enough to try. As she finally became more forward in a sexual way (what I had been hoping for since forever), reaching for my ****, kissing me passionately, I choked/panicked and turned her away - I fear this may have really hurt her.

If that's what's happened, I don't think there's anything i can do about it now (to tell her that it wasn't her fault I didn't want to go further, it was my own)...but how do I get rid of these pangs of regret I feel?

I'm literally scared of sex now
, because I missed this opportunity with my oneitis. I can't fully invest myself in other girls because of the mistakes I made. Even later, during the summer, there were periods where I could've asked her out to try again, but I was just too beta and couldn't do it.

It really hit me, when earlier today I saw an amateur porno vid with a girl who looked like my ex (and fapped to it, no less), and I realized how lame and pathetic I was. Even 6 months since this happened (4 months NC), I still can't let go of those memories. Gahh, I just want to punch myself in the face for how pathetic I was back then, and how little progress I've made and how pathetic I am still today.

Dammit, how do I let go guys? How do I get rid of the feeling that I may have hurt her? She was the only girl with whom I was intimate...and its for that reason the memories cling to my mind so strongly. I screwed up my first time, big time.

REALLY need to cut out the porn, fapping too much and weakening my sexual system is what's indirectly caused all these problems, I didn't think I could get it up...
Dude do you have balls or a pvssy? Stop acting like a high school girl, hit the gym so you can get some badly needed testosterone flowing and move on.

This is stuff that women think about, not guys. Pretty sure she is out banging other guys brains out because you weren't man enough to do it
 

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I appreciate the support and personal stories guys...they've helped a lot. It puts things in perspective, I thought I was the only one who felt like this, but helps to share similar experiences with others.

@Meisterman, I too had the ability to get a condom, hell they sold them in the vending machine in my dorm a few floors down from the room we were in (which, if she realized it, made the excuse even more lame). I was just too scared to go further though.

After after a few days of contemplation/meditating on this, I'm feeling a little better. Been concentrating on my homework more, too. Thanks again (even @marmel, a good kick in the butt helps).
 
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