Need help after the number close

[FortunaFides]

Hi!

I'm FortunaFides and this is my first post back on SoSouave in about 7-8 years! I use to go by another handle a long long time ago..

So, I need help with calling a chick after I got the number close. It's been a sticking point for me for the last year and I just need some help trying to get past it.

First, just a little bit about me.. I first learned about PUA and game probably back in 2003. Back then I was about as bad as you could get with women--i had terrible social anxiety, I couldn't talk to or approach a girl, I had no game, no confidence, and blue balls!!

So here I am years down the road, and a several steps forward and few steps backward through LTRs and oneitis and I'm still definately not a master player who gets a different girl every night of the week.

These days, I'm confident, I do what I want, I drive a sweet car, I play in a killer band, I have an impressive career, and don't give a f*ck what others want from me, and I believe everyday I'm becoming more of the person I want to be.. And I can number close just about any chick in a club if I want to. I've got the one-on-one, face-to-face thing down.

The problem is getting that date after. I've had so many chicks give me interest out in the field only to flake, flake, flake on the follow up, and I'm tired of it! I know this is a growing pain and part of mastering the game, but I am ready to advance. Last weekend i had a girl grab me in front of her boyfriend, tell me I'm hot and that I had better call her, and I still don't have a clue on what do on the phone next. I feel like its so hard when I don't have body language to work with..

So best tips, tricks, secerts! What is the point of the phone follow up? I know if i can recreate the connection I can create out in the clubs at night, I am in. Just seems so much werider trying to get this phone BS out of the way!!!

 

[JxcelDolghmQ]

You should probably plan something with her! Right? Only AFCs yap away on the telephone with their girlfriends all day.

And don't do this

You: So what do you want to do

All that will happen is she will say "I don't know"

You're going to want an action date, so something like..

You: You know what?
Her: What?
You: Me and you are going to go *Insert an action date here* at *time that's good for you here* on *day here*

 

[Allurre]

You place too much emphasis on phone interactions, which makes it even more difficult for you to handle it. Your phone is solely a tool of communication.

Next time you dial up a chick, relax, keep the conversation short (so you feel less pressured prior to the call), ask her a simple "how're you doing", and then tell her to join you on a date so you two can "get to know each other better."

Don't sweat over the small things. Don't sweat in general.

 

[FortunaFides]

Thanks guys.. I think you are right and I worry about "playing the phone game right" and it's probably backfiring and making me less confident.

I still wonder about things like how long I should wait before calling her, and if I should text or not. I know it's stupid stuff to worry about! I once waited 7-8 days to call a girl back, and she ended up going out with a friend of mine instead. She told him one of reason she was pissed I waited so long to call her.. but I don't want to be the idiot who's calling a girl the next day or every day until she answers.

I'm going to just try to keep the same vibe and flow I use off the phone on the phone and see if that gets past the cornflakes.

 

[thevilittletroll]

have a reason your getting her number not just like hey we should hang out sometime. i like to use concert dates, or some other type of show that has a specific date in the future. make sure that you also exchange #'s, you want your name to show on her phone when you call or text. your first call or text should be pretty qick after meeting, the next day or so when you are still fresh in her mind. the key is when you first call or text dont ask her out, you are just calling or texting to tell her something that you just saw or experienced and you wanted her to know. you dont want to have an agenda here, she will see you as over eager and desperate with no other female options. and if she's pretty good looking, she gets asked out a lot by every other dude she has given her phone # out to. you want to stand out a be different. she'll start to wonder why you havent asked her out yet. that way when you do less likely she will flake.