Need good technique for deadlifts

disgustipated

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I was practicing what I thought was good form...not rounding my back basically...im learning more as I go with these new movements so I knew not to JUST LIFT. Think the problem all along is weak.lower back which I'm trying to.address. See above post for questions.

Thanks for all advice.
 

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gravityeyelids said:
Haha. Are you trying to get him to snap city?!? Don't listen to this guy. Drop the ego, and drop your weight until you have perfect form. Push yourself, but NEVER compromise form.
after many many many reps, when your nervous system has learned how to deadlift and it automatically fires all the muscles at the right times - form may be sacrificial on a 1rm ,or on the laaassstt rep for jeeeezzzussss!!!!

But if you're training weak points right, this shouldn't be an issue till you get to the 405 club:D

I have felt my form fall to Shiite several times - but I just grind away to get that weight up.

yeah, flame me all you like guys - but if you're gonna tell me that every deadlift you've done is perfect form - either you're lying or you haven't pushed yourself to the absolute limit yet. Either way - your argument is invalid.:up:
 

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Yeah I agree with everyone here in some way. Form is absolutely of the utmost importance starting out, to 'train' the nervous and muscular system on how to handle the lift efficiently, and not get hurt. However, after a certain point, when training 90%+ of your 1RM, form will deteriorate a bit. When I get to 405 and above, I do feel some slight rounding of the back, but have watched video of myself on those reps and it actually isn't that round at all, probably because of my strict form on all other reps conditioning my CNS. It used to be that my form would deteriorate around 355-365, but as I've progressed, it's strict as can be in that range.

Elliott Hulse once talked about deadlifting 600+ lbs, and made an analogy to jazz musicians. It was something like this:
When you start out learning an instrument, you do very strict and robotic exercises, learn your scales and how to read music. After a certain point in your development though, all that goes out the window, you forget everything you've ever learned, throw out the sheet music, and just play.

It's like lifting. You must learn strict form on all exercises starting out, and keep that good form as much as possible. Once you reach a certain point in your journey though, you shut the fvck up and just lift the weight.

That's not to say injury isn't possible though. The only way I've seen lifting related injuries occur is through a big error in form. It's not the lift, it's the person (in 95% of cases).

I have had my back round dangerously in the past, once or twice, and you can DEFINITELY tell when it's not ok. As long as your body is as tight as possible a bit of rounding isn't a horrible thing. You should still try to avoid it as much as possible. Just my $0.02.

Moral of the story: form is likely to break down on max effort attempts, but as long as it's limited to that, and you don't just have terrible form anyway, it's not a huge deal.


disgustipated said:
I was practicing what I thought was good form...not rounding my back basically...im learning more as I go with these new movements so I knew not to JUST LIFT. Think the problem all along is weak.lower back which I'm trying to.address. See above post for questions.

Thanks for all advice.
Rack pulls and glute ham raises will fix a weak lower back. Flexibility could also be an issue. I know some people who literally cannot even get into a proper deadlift position without horribly rounding their lower back.
 

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Stand with your feet shoulder width apart, bar as close to your shins as possible. Keeping your back as straight as possible, with your head and chest up(if someone were looking at you from across the room, they should be able to read an writing on the chest of your shirt at all times), grab the bar with a grip that places your hands slightly outside your knees and driving your heels through the floor, drag the bar up your shins. When you get just below your knees, use your hip and a hinge and explode upwards, ending with the bar around waist height, and leaning back slightly. To bring the bar back down, unhinge your hip, drop your butt and slide the bar back down your shins, keeping your back straight, head and chest up.

There are times when I am lifting heavy that my knees end up bleeding through my pant legs because I drag the bar up against them. Not pleasant, but at least lets me know I've got good form...
 

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i have done my fair share of research just now. regardless, the 5x5 program is much more stressful on the body than olympic weightlifting. olympic weightlifters work exercises in the 1-2 set range with their working weight. now, the deadlift is done in this program as 1x5, so you can manage to gain strength here. however, everything else is still in the 5x5 and 3x5 area for most people. this is a much bigger stress on the body, and you simply will not get stronger by underfeeding yourself
 
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