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The_411

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fuzzball said:
the thing of it is guys is people used to wait to have sex thats what the honeymoon was all about finally you get to have sex. and those marriages were arguably far stronger than the ones we crap out today. so the bang her sooner philosophy is not exactly time tested like the other one. i know of plenty of couples that waited till marriage and 40+ years later they are still going strong so lets not pretend the bang her sooner is "the one and only way or even the best way". we are not saying sex is filthy(i admit thats a past attitude i once had thanks religion....) but saying doing it sooner is better is quite the recent thing. ironically enough around this time divorce rates and relationship happiness has been respectively rising and tanking.

the problem is

1. guys using this site to just bang girls and never settle down(real men do in fact want to father children and take care of them maybe not at 16 but you get the point)
2. the general state of affairs between the two sexes today
3. feminism....that nasty plague.
4. more on point 1....while it might seem to cool to never settle down and to never have kids....thats really not the point of what men do. men cannot reach their full potential until becoming a father just as a woman cannot reach her full potential until becoming a mother. its the peak of what a relationship is about. look i get it we are all here because we suck(ed) with girls and want to improve that. but thats not all there is to the all mighty DJ title. thats not all there is to being a man.

yes interacting with girls is part of it but taking it to the next level with a girl worth your time is the full cycle of "The Game". your father did it. my father did it. they all had game and they took it to the next level with a family. and holy hell did my old man have game....he married a spanish girl that hates southerns(hes a southern) and mormons(shes catholic and was told mormons are devil worshippers) and his parents hated her because she was a worthless half breed(only half spanish)....but the man had game(he even made her wait 4 weeks for the first date that game playing bum lol) and took it to the next level. thats what a real man does. reading this site i now understand a lot better how my old man has kept the family intact all these years and how exactly he has kept my mother in check. not insulting my mother here but she is a woman and we all know how that goes....my father did it and so did yours unless he bailed on her when she got pregnant at which point he did not have real game and was a coward. but if he stuck around like my old man for 48 years then yes he has game and completed the cycle of "game".

when you achieve a LTR with a family and manage to hold it all together for 40+ years....then my friend you have earned the DJ title and are a master of game. but if all you can do is pump and dump....sure you might have more experience than me but you are no more of a man than I and youve missed the point of the DJ bible lessons.

also i may just be wrong on this but i like to think people can improve at sex as well so if try one isnt 10/10 it can probably get better.
I think the problem really stems from a drastic change in social dynamics. While women gaining equal rights pay and positions was great from a egalitarian perspective, it was terrible from a social dynamic perspective. Gender roles being blurred has dramatically weakened the male archetypical role in society. The double whammy is the absolute position of weakness that a man is placed in a marriage contract. The marriage contract was relatively "fair" in the past because women didn't have the same opportunities as they do today so in essence the dissolution was a way of compensating a woman because she didn't have viable economic alternatives. That's no longer the case and so the current laws are outdated.
 
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