Need advice RE: 2 plates. I am so close!

[pinhas]

Need advice regarding two girls:

Girl 1

Very high IL, been went out few times, very good vibes and make out sessions; only reason we didn’t sex it up yet is lack of time/bad timing. Everything was going well until few days ago, when I had to leave town for few days. After I got back I texted her few times but no response.

Should I persists and try to “intrigue” her back, give it time and see if she comes around or just next?

Girl 2

5 years older then me, met through a mutual friend and know each other for a while. Went out few times, there is IL there, and when we are out we definitely have “electricity” and once some drinks flow there is strong kino. Last time we hung out, ended up in her place, some kissing, fondling etc ensued but she stopped and said that she feels weird about it because of our mutual friend who is very dear to her and she doesn’t want it to be awkward between the 3 of us. I was caught a but of guard on this as I was sure its “on” and didn’t really now what to say. I tried explaining that it doesn’t matter and doesn’t have to be weird but moment was gone.

I really like this girl and really want her, how do I approach this?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[pinhas]

No one? Ill take any advice...

 

[HariPoter13]

Id write #1 off, and maybe shoot her a random text in a month or so. Read this post by Anti-Dump http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=150825&postcount=8

I really like this girl and really want her, how do I approach this?

Are you setting yourself up for oneitis here? (reminds me of one of my posts :crackup: )

Anyway, you should go for the kill one more time. If she resists again, well read anti-dump's post again ^. Who knows whats on her mind, maybe she likes your friend more than you.


Godspeed

 

[pinhas]

UPDATE

Girl #2 invited me to her b-day and I said ill come, but last night we talked and she said that "we have a situation as her ex will be there". I was sort of shocked, and all I said was "Ok...and?".

Now I dont know how to act at the b-day. I cant back out and not go as that is childish, but I also dont want to stand there and watch her ex try to bang her again.

Any thoughts?

 

[AAAgent]

If she mentioned her ex is going to be there, that means she invited him or somehow agreed on him coming otherwise he wouldn't be there.

What i've done most of the time is, whenever they give me a sh1t test or some drama i just walk away. I'm really not in the mood for dealing with other peoples drama, especially since at that time i had a sh1tload going on.

HBG: Hey, this guy i used to date is going to be coming to the picnic as well.
Me: Oh really? That's cool then, I have some other things to take care of as well so maybe you guys can catch up. Hope you have a good time.


Then i just smile and walk away.

Needless to say, he ended up not being allowed to go and she begged me to come instead but it wasn't so much of playing the game but me just not wanting to deal with the drama.

 

[pinhas]

I agree with you, but the thing is that I said Ill come before she said anything about him, and she told me hes coming over the phone. I was not ready for that.

I now feel that if I call her back and say "well sorry now I cant come" I would just look weak and childish. I dont know the deal betweem them and she is a bit "weird" in general, so I dont know what to do?

Should I still go and act normal, make up an excuse and not go or just tell her that I thought about it and the fact that her ex will be there isnt fine with me and I just rather not go?

How do I get out of this while still maintaining my strong frame and alpahness?

 

[5string]

I agree with you, but the thing is that I said Ill come before she said anything about him, and she told me hes coming over the phone. I was not ready for that.

I now feel that if I call her back and say "well sorry now I cant come" I would just look weak and childish. I dont know the deal betweem them and she is a bit "weird" in general, so I dont know what to do?

Should I still go and act normal, make up an excuse and not go or just tell her that I thought about it and the fact that her ex will be there isnt fine with me and I just rather not go?

How do I get out of this while still maintaining my strong frame and alpahness?

pinhas....I call BS on this chick. Instead of letting HER play games with you, I'd just say I had something came up and can't make it. She's manipulating you imo. Don't let her do it. She'll probably press you for a reason. Don't give her one. She's got control right now and you can't let her get away with it. She put you in a tough spot. Get yourself out of it. Good luck.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Find something else fun and interesting to do with someone else that is the same day of her party and do that instead.

Tell her: "Hey HB I actually realized that i had a prior commitment with someone else and won't be able to make it to your party. Let's get together next [insert day] night to grab some drinks and have a belated celebration."

 

[vatoloco]

As much as I'd like to advise you for something else "to come up" on her birthday, I'm actually gonna advise you to go ahead and go.

If you back out now, she will know that the ex "comment" got to you. What you need to do now is go to the party and [since this girl's no good -- she allows an ex at a birthday party] you game other chicks.

Just to be clear here: she's out -- you're going to talk to & game other girls.

 

[pinhas]

So the common opinion is that I should not go?!?

I tend to agree, but the fact that she is 30 years old and may not think like younger chicks makes me think that I would just look weak for not coming.

I just dont have enough experience with older chicks; this is a sticky situation..

*edit*

Saw Vat's comment after posting. Problem is I doubt there will be anyone to game there. There wont be too many people there to begin with, let alone singles.

 

[vatoloco]

Well, if you go and there are no pretty, single girls at the party, you will "suddenly get a call" and will have to excuse yourself.

The thing is that you said you were going to go. Men keep their commitments. Personally, I think it's a sh!t test. The ex might not be even be going and she's just trying to ruffle your feathers. However, you're gonna show her that you're a man of your word and go.

But like I said, this girl is no good. Find another plate to spin...

 

[5string]

So the common opinion is that I should not go?!?

I tend to agree, but the fact that she is 30 years old and may not think like younger chicks makes me think that I would just look weak for not coming.

I just dont have enough experience with older chicks; this is a sticky situation..

*edit*

Saw Vat's comment after posting. Problem is I doubt there will be anyone to game there. There wont be too many people there to begin with, let alone singles.

If you do go as Vat says, just drink their booze and take off early and have fun somewhere else. Personally, why would you care if she might think the ex thing got to you? She's done like dinner and you are not going to have anything to do with her regardless. I guess either way you'll come out on top.

 

[pinhas]

I think I will go guys; I did promise and it will be childish to backout now IMO. I know most of her freinds (they love me) so I will just hang out with them and ignore the chick.

I will admit that I still want to bang her and will not give up on that, but for sure lay back and just have a good time. If she wants to play games she could play with herself.

Anyone has any good stories/games that I can tell her freinds and show her the good time shes missing?

 

[vatoloco]

Good. Have fun with the friends. Just be yourself.

And if you want and are able to bang her, do so. Just be aware that this woman is not good LTR material and will more than likely bring major drama into your life if you get involved with her except for a ONS.

 

[AAAgent]

If you as a younger guy acts more mature than a guy her age or older which is 5+ years, that's a major turn on for them. Trust me.

The picnic i went too i agreed to earlier as well but when she mentioned the guy she dated, i didn't ask if it was an ex or not since i didn't care i decided to move away from the drama.

I just clearly stated and implied she thought meeting him was important and i gave her the space and time she needed in order to catch up with him. If she agreed, i'd next her. Well she realized that was what was happening and ditched the guy.

 

[teacha]

I think I will go guys; I did promise and it will be childish to backout now IMO. I know most of her freinds (they love me) so I will just hang out with them and ignore the chick.

what good is it going to the party, if all you gonna do is ignore her?

start learning to use your time wisely.

Anyone has any good stories/games that I can tell her freinds and show her the good time shes missing?.

after reading this, my advice is: DON'T GO because all you gonna end up doing is competing with the ex and other male orbiters who are probably gonna be there for her attention(and trust me on this, its not only you and her ex in the picture).

firstly, you don't owe this woman anything so you shouldn't feel like you have to honor your promise or something like that, fcuk that. Start living for yourself (be selfish like i said earlier you don't owe this woman anything), if you don't really wanna go then don't but don't go just because you gave her your word that you gonna be there(they just words).

Women don't keep their words all the time and always get away with it just because its expected of them but men are expected to keep theirs. See what fcuked up world we are living in? When it comes to dealing with women, i always act like how women do: i don't keep my word.

 

[pinhas]

UPDATE 2

Girl #1

Came back from the cold and texted me; she wanted to meet and hang out but it was late at night, I was coming back home drunk and didn’t have time for her BS; told her either be by my house in 10 min or good night. She didn’t come and just said good night; she will be conquered!

Girl #2

Went to her birthday party and it was awesome. Talked to her a bit, and when her ex showed up I proceeded to brilliantly game another super cute girl that was there. Did the cube on her, she was eating from the palm of my hand. Didn’t close because A) she had a bf (even though I think if I pushed it would have happened) B) didn’t want to completely kill my chances with my original target (my inner AFC raising his ugly head; I should learn not to care).

Another of my originals target’s friend was also hitting on me hardcore; again didn’t close due to reason B as mentioned above.

I think that during the party girl #2 was getting a bit pissed at me, maybe even jealous; It was brilliant.

I will give girl #2 one more chance; if she still acts weird and doesn’t change her behavior I will next her.

Thanks for your advice guys, I am happy I decided to go and I think I greatly improved my social proof within that group. They all love me and I was the life and center of the party. I need to build on this and try to be this confident and charming more often; I know its inside me I just need to let it out more often.