Need advice on a younger girl pickup... LONG

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What unnecessary complexity. Wait a while, then go back and just ask her out.. you will either get a yes or no.

Stop hiring dvd's you don't want to see.
 

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Originally posted by dionysius_d
What unnecessary complexity. Wait a while, then go back and just ask her out.. you will either get a yes or no.

Stop hiring dvd's you don't want to see.

Yeah you're right...I just wanted to give a full recount of everything that happened for you guys....I didn't plan on it being like this lol.

I'll just wait a couple days and go back, the $hitty thing is I never know when she works which maked unnessary trips! haha
 

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dude its not rocket science..you cant remember back to the days when you went in there and she was there???

they work in shifts and have scheduled days to work unless someone calls in sick
 

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I was in a situation like this a while ago, almost the exact same one, actually. Younger chick, met her at her work, etc. Same, same, same situation.

My boss is a DJ, a pretty good one. Poor guy's on his 4th marriage, but his wives are always hot, young women (unfortunately, he is addicted to cheating on them for younger women). His current wife is 25, he's 48. They met when she was 18. So he knows about dealing with younger women....

Anyway, his advice to me was more or less like this:

There's nothing really wrong with going back to the same place repeatedly, since, for one: she KNOWS you're there to see her. Women aren't stupid; they know the way you look at them and how complacent you get when you're there are all indicators that you're there to see them. So, #1--this girl knows what you want. No reason to hide it.

Secondly, there are people who regularly rent videos, eat at restaurants, go to football/baseball/rugby games (that last one's for you brits), so how weird is it really that you become a "regular?" Now, if the girls were ugly, you wouldn't look at them at all and so they'd think you were simply a regular. But since you gave this girl the obvious indicators of interest (looking at her, smiling more than the usual customer, etc.), she knows that you're interested in more. It goes back to #1, but #2--businesses often experience regular customers, it's natural.

Finally, don't waste your time going too often. Next time you go, get her number. Do not leave without it. This is to keep the trips from draining your wallet, unless you simply feel like going in and saying, "Listen, I'm not here to rent a video this time, I want your phone number," or something to that effect.

One last thing--DO NOT, under any circumstances, mention your car. It would make you come off as a materialist, as you would be bragging about it. Do not mention your car. It's not classy in the least.
 

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I like that quote "I'm not here to rent a video, I'm here to get your number" .That conveys a hell of alot of confidence.
 

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One last thing--DO NOT, under any circumstances, mention your car. It would make you come off as a materialist, as you would be bragging about it. Do not mention your car. It's not classy in the least.
Ya I agree



I like the "Im here for your phone #" line too!
 

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As for finding the girl again, wait a while, then go in. If she isn't there, ask someone when she'll be in.
 

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OK went to the video store today figured I'd get it over with and move on if need be.......

So I walk in, she is standing along the side counter where the entrance is with some co workers....I know she sees me..... she looks and smiles, so I walk to the lineup, and she says "I can help you here" (I know she knows why I am here)....I walk over over smile we make eye contact.....I say to her "Hi Natalie, I'm Kevin btw, I'm not here to rent a video, athough you're 19 I'd still like to have your # so we can hang out sometime.......at this point there is some major eye contact for a few seconds....she then looks away reaches for a pen and paper (damn she was good it at it too) "I don't like to give out my # you should give me yours"......I say "not yet anyway" (at this point I know now that I should have had a comeback for her asking for my #, but I wasn't expecting it) so I write down the number, she says "what kind of car do you have" I say "Porsche" she says its very pretty (puke) I say "thanks".....we make small talk for a sec, she then says "I'm Natalie btw" seemingly forgetting that I had addressed her by name when I came in, although when we first met (the other day) she never told me it, then I say, "Well I gotta go talk to ya later.....I leave

Man I screwed it up, I know she won't call so I'll put it behind me....but next time I'm getting HER number!

Thoughts?

Afterwards I am kicking myself for not getting HER # I'll have to chalk it up to a learning experience and make sure NOT to let that happen again ever...


I should add that after this exchange I have decided that she is probably closer to an 8.0 as opposed to a 8.5-9.0 probably her youngness factor inflated it initially haha!
 

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Originally posted by electron
after this exchange I have decided that she is probably closer to an 8.0 as opposed to a 8.5-9.0
They do tend to slide down pretty fast. :)
 

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This is what she said on the message....she was using her best sexy voice.... "Yeah u wanted me to call ya :)so here I am, u dont know me and I dont know u very well so but I noticed u coming in to my work all the time.............I'll have to call back......if you're lucky ;) "
 

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WTF! Quit playing!!!!!!!!!

Electron, if you do this you will never ever ever ever get a girl again.
Eyecandie4ya - lighten up dude. We're all bright enough to notice a joke when we see one. You did this "quit playing" stuff to me in another thread. I don't take any offence, but just lighten up. We can have fun here too... You did a few posts above. Not everyone follows up thier sarcasm with "Just Kidding". Sometimes just a little comic relief is in order.

Enjoy.
 

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"she was using her best sexy voice"

she was?? How many different versions of her sexy voice have you heard?

Cool! Now you have bowed down to a 19 yr old who thinks you are head over heels over her..and drive her around town in your pretty porsche

If I were you..I would retract for a bit to knock her off her pedestal..make her think "WTF did I do wrong? He doesnt come in here anymore..? He doesnt pay attention to me? etc"

but you'll probably start going in there even more now..so do whatever works for you
 

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Hey starman I was only trying to give the details acurately...chill man....I am just here for your guys advice.....its all good.....so yeah Im NOT gonna go back in there that would be foolish. I am not a complete newbie at this....I screwed up at first and it just compouned due to circumstances.

So what should I do when she calls back? Suggestions? Iam not gonna be chasin after her that would be dumb I gotta work it now

On a side note, I got stoked abut approaching chicks from another thread so I went to the mall and asked any chick I saw that got my fancy for her # I got 3 out of 7 #'s and an email address...this will help me deal with the Natalie situation better I think
 

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Just an update if you guys are curious.......



Natalie had initially called me Friday night (the same night she took my number) and called and left the message I spoke of earlier.

Well I hadn't set foot in blockbuster since then, and had been busy scoring some other chicks #'s (especially a Lyndsey at the super market, who I approached as she was buying groceries, a total hottie I'd say 9.0 easy) I did this after scoring 3 #s at the mall and my confidence was soaring. Man this site rules.....


Anyway, so I hadn't heard from Natalie in awhile, so I called Blockbuster this evening (Mon) and she answered......I was like "Hey Natalie, this is Kevin I got your message the other day and just wanted to follow up, figured if I can be lucky so can you"

I said we should get together and have a drink, she says "I lost your # that's why I didn't call again" I said "see if you had given me your # that wouldn't have happened....." I don't even like to give out my # as a matter of fact, too many stalkers lol" She laughed and said she had the same problem....I was trying to makeup for the error of the other day in letting her have my #.

I say, "what time are you off?" She says "I work until 10 pm, I say we should do something afterwards...she says "OK Stop by at 10 then"......I say ok... see you then.

I show up a minute or two past ten, and I don't see here anywhere...I went inside, asked the dude working the counter if Natalie is around and he says "yes she is out back". I figure she must be changing.....which she did.



So I wait a bit, and she shows up lookin hot! Way better than inher blockbuster clothes.....I have upgraded her back to a solid 9.0.

She was acting kinda weird and said something, that I didn't catch and I thought it was like something to the effect of I'll meet you outside in a sec....so I go outside to the car.....she is walking around inside near the counter as if he was looking for something? Looking like she was lost...stalling.

She then comes out and walks towards her car, I open the window and say "Natalie where you going!", she turns and says "to my car"......I say........"come over here"

She walks towards me and I'm like "where are you going?" She says, "I called and left you a message, I found your #, but I have to go babysit my nephew (whatever, she was making an excuse, I think she was a little uncomfortable about the whole thing, not knowing me and me being older etc, I felt if I could just get her to get in the car with me and agree to go for a drink I can work on her and make her more comfortable).

At this point I am NOT letting her blow me off! After coming this far.....

I feel if I can just get her to come with me, it will improve.


I say we'll go for one drink, it'll be fun, and we can get to know a little more about each other (the phrase she had used on her 1st message when she called). She says how old are you? I say I am a little bit older than you........she says how old? I say not old....older....she is like what 26? I say yeah around that......She finally agrees to go for a drink, and that she has nothing to lose, she seemed nervous and hesistant.......I had to work her there.......she leaves her purse in my car and goes back to hers to get her coat comes back and hops in. I had a plan where I wanted to take her, as I didn't want to seem indecisive.

So as we are driving she is like telling me that all these guys are always hitting on her at work and that she gets corny pickup lines all the time.....and that she never goes out with them or gives out her #. She then says no one had ever said my line...."you are kinda cute I'd ask for your # but your probably too young" the line I had used, she said she was surprised the night I said that....and actually kept bringing it up all night......I kept saying "yeah you are kinda cute lol" She says "I'm just KINDA cute?" as if she is shocked that I only said that....like she knows she's hot. I assume EVERY guy tells her she's hot.......So she was a little reserved at first, but opened up a lot as the night progressed......later she said you have really nice eyes.........has any girl ever told you that before?

She is telling me about some bikini contest she was in the other night....how do you deal with this stuff lol



So later she is staying things like, do you date younger girls much/exclusivley? When was your last GF, you don't look your age at all, more like 23 she says......told me about her last BF of four years, that he was always cheating on her etc.... She then says almost daringly that she would be hard for me handle as if she was so wild etc....she seemed to warm up to me as the night progressed......playing with her hair, mirroring, eye contact etc, laughing, smiling, telling me she liks cars and mine.......she asked me to tell her how I would describe her in a few words...........a test I presume, which I think I did well in answering as she seemed happy with my response....She also said you're teeth are so nice, white and straight did you have braces? (at this point I am so thankful to my parents lol) I say yes....she says you can tell they are nice........


Also a bunch of my friends with hot girls where at the club too and they were all waiving at me and she noticed them which I figured was good......

She seemed impressed when I asked her if she wanted to move seats because the music was too lound and we couldn't really hear each other speak......almost had a look to her as if I had read her mind....


When I drop her off later at her car, I tell her to give me her # and she does.....I assume this is a good sign....I tell her I will be talking to her and goodnight using her name.


So I really want to work this girl she looks like a keeper.......she is gonna be tough and I'll need to make use of every resource here and be the best DJ I can........

Also to read about a related situation from the same evening with another chick I had # closed on at the same restaurant...check the link below.
That was INTERESTING to say the least, this other chick saw me with Natalie....

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=297737#post297737

So any advice for me on Natalie, I truly would appreciate it.....Thanks in advance!
 
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Wow, pretty good, I'd say. :) If you'll indulge me for a second:

I've read the posts here for quite some time (I was here for the "Anti-Dump" era, if that means anything to you), so I know the past and present DJ mentalities that the forum has had. Though things have changed, one constant has always been that you should absolutely, positively, get her number the same night you ask for it; otherwise, she's not interested. You can't give yours, she has to give hers.

I don't see a problem with the guy giving out his number; in fact, I'd rather it be the case. My boss and I talked about that one for my situation, not because she was young, but because she was a foreigner (and thus harbors a propensity towards traditional "courting"). Girls don't give out their numbers too often because they do fear stalkers; being raped is one of their greatest concerns. Natalie said it herself--"too many stalkers, lol" (she didn't actually say, "lol," did she?).

Now, as for what actually happened, I think you did well. She was nervous and hesitant, and by the end of the night she was more comfortable with you and actually gave you her number. I'd say that was a sign that you knew how to comport yourself in order to reassure her that you aren't a psycho, a dirty old man, or whatever she may have thought initially.

I'd say simply take her out on another date and go from there; act however you acted on the first date. Don't get too swept up by her, though; you keep referring to this girl as "amazing," don't let that reflect in your attitude. I won't explain it here, but if she knows you're watering at the mouth whenever you see her, it's bad for you. In any case, good luck.
 

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Good work outta you electron!

you are doing well..but I think she digs you..but my guess is she thinks you REAALLLY dig her..and thats what you must focus on changing...try to be a bit more aloof..

I notice after a date..if I ignore the chick for a while..it RAISES their interest level (especially younger ones) because they begin to doubt how much "fun" they were on the date..try it!

remember..she said "guys hit on me all the time! and shower me with too much attention"

DOnt be that guy
 

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Hey thanks guys I agree totally with your comments....I know exactly what you guys mean by being aloof and not watering at the mouth etc, I think I have refrained from doing that as best I could so far and will continue to work it as best I can......I defintely cannot be like those other guys......I'm gonna wait a few days before calling her......I was thinkin maybe a Friday/Saturday night date.

I do dig her, but definetely do not want her to realize this.....



She didn't really say lol! lol! I get carried away with these some times...haha I was jusy trying to portray a smile/laugh that had occured in reality...
 
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proceed with caution

#1 she doesnt know your real age..when she finds out she might bail (I had a friend who was 32..dated a 19 yr old..didnt tell her his real age until she was HOOKED..by then they will forgive the age thingy)

#2 getting hooked on a girl like this is just asking for trouble..they still havent sown their wild oats..and are slvts at best..and will cheat on you

#3 They are materialistic..they seldom like you for who you are as a person..but what kind of car you drive, what "cool" people you know, how much money you make, etc

and #4...you have put her on a pedestal..who Cares how Hot she is..she works at BLOCKBUSTER for gods sake..that means she really doesnt have ANYTHING else going for her than her looks

I HIGHLY advise against calling her soon..wait a WEEK..or you will be sending her the message that you are TOO interested..TRUST me on this one..or just wait and go in there next Monday

keep busy with the other girls you were talking about..and keep Natalie on the backburner
 
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