Need advice...from anyone...ladies especially...gf's past issue...

tmac

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Be brutally honest with your opinions and advice please...

I've been dating my gf for the past 8 months. THings are great other than the fact I'm having these weird issues that keep occupying my mind. Can't seem to stop thinking about them. Here's the problem.

I'm 29, she's 26. Before me she's had 2 serious boyfriends, one was a year relationship, the other 3 years. There was a gap after the last relationship in which she abstained from dating and sex. Then about a year after her last break, she began to date again, but things never worked out because the guys she dated either annoyed her or just didn't interest her. Then sometime last April she met a guy in a club. He called her and she started to see him. Things didn't work out because he was more into the casual thing, which she wasn't, so she ended things at the beginning of June. I met her on July first when she was at a club in my city.

My problem is that she slept with the guy after the 4th or 5th date, about 3 weeks after she had initially met him. Not that it's a huge deal, but I never really found this out until a few months ago. In the past she always made the guys she dated wait for sex until she knew things were serious and what they were all about. This time, she thought that since she was a bit more mature and that she knew that he really liked her, it was ok in her mind to sleep with him. She feels now that it was a mistake that she made at the time since she wasn't really listening to herself. So she regrets having done that.

Anyway, my issue is that it's on my mind. I had this image of her that was kind of shattered and I really respected the fact that she made me wait(about 3 months into it, but we're long distance about 2hrs away from each other and only saw each other a couple times a month(I went to see her because I liked it better that way so I guess she she never really got to know MY world until later on) initially and about 5 times total before we started having sex, but we talked on the phone alot since we met). It really surprised me about the guy, so I would keep bringing it up every once in awhile trying to get a bit more info.

I really didn't want to know the specifics, but my curiousity got the best of me, and she is always honest about things. Now I have this stuff going through my mind. Almost as though I'm insecure because I feel like she was super attracted to him and that's why she decided to sleep with him so soon. I keep trying to think of the possible scenario that led to sex on that night. I know that her mistake made her more cautious when she met me and that's why it took us awhile longer. Also, we live 2 hrs apart, she lived with her parents at the time and so they were always home when I was visiting her(she recently bought a house so that will change), and when she was dating the other guy they would always hang out at his place so they could basically do what they wanted. We would make out quite a bit a fool around in the guest bedroom where I would stay at her parents place, but didn't end up doing more than that until later. She told me(cuz I asked, stupid me) that she only started to sleep over at the other guys house on the night that they ended up having sex for the first time. This eats me up.

Anyway, what does this all mean and why am I letting it get to me so much? I can understand that maybe she slept with him because she figured "why not" since she knew that he liked her and she knew more about him and so thought it was ok. My insecurity lies in the my wondering whether or not how long it took us to do stuff has anything to do with her level of attraction for me as compared to what she had felt for the other guy. Is this a factor?

Anyway, I really like her and I know that she's in love with me now, but I just have all these questions that pop into my head about that short relationship that they had and how fast it progressed. Advice would be much appreciated.

T.
 

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She saw that guy about 5 times before she had sex with him and she saw you about 5 times before she had sex with you. I don't see the problem here. It sounds like it takes her a few times seeing someone and being in their company before she feels comfortable enough to be that intimate. Regardless of how long you talked to each other first...you and the other guy both had to wait until the 5th OPPORTUNITY to have sex with her before she actually had sex with either one of you.

This shouldn't be bothering you at all.
 

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It's all in the past. It's all in the past. It's all in the past. It's all in the effing past. And besides, 3-weeks and 4-5 dates is hardly promiscuous. Now if you'd found out she was in a quadruple-penetration flick with a gang of freakishly-large penised migets then... yeah that might be cause for a little bit of concern, but it still wouldn't change your relationship now.

You shouldn't be worried about this - you shouldn't be worrying her about this. You admitted yourself that none of this holds any bearing on your current relationship, so why be obsessed?

If it bothers you too much, go to the gym and wail on a punching bag for a while. Let all the energy out and be done with it, but don't bring it up to her again; that's not going to change anything.
 

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She wasn't more attracted to this guy than she is to you.

I mean, if she slept with him the first night, and then didn't sleep with you for three months, I'd see why you'd be insecure.

But she went on like 5 dates with the guy and then slept with him. What's the big deal? 5 dates is a lot. A LOT.

Even when I was an AFC, if I had a gf and she slept with a guy after 5 dates, I wouldn't give a ****. Like I said, 5 days is a lot. You can get to know someone pretty well after 5 dates. It doesn't make your girlfriend a ho, or the club guy some superstud.

There's nothing special about this club guy if it took him 5 dates to have sex with her. He doesn't have anything you don't have.

The real reason this is bothering you is...

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You think this club guy is better than you. You think he has something you don't have that attracts girls (especially your gf) in ways you can't.

Once you go out there and mess around with a few girls relatively quickly and easily, you'll see this club guy ain't ****.

Bottom line is, your thoughts are invalid. They're lies. You're lying to yourself.

I suggest you learn about cognative therapy. It's a method where you work on paper, write down the thought that is bothering you (example: "I am imaging my girlfriend being attracted to this club guy more than me") and put the lie to it. Once you effectively workout how this thought is deceitful and nonsense, it won't bother nearly as much. You'll feel relieved and a lot better.

David Burns is the leading authority on this type of therapy. His books are "Feeling Good" and "10 Days to Self-Esteem". The second book is quicker, more a crash course.

Also check out www.youmeworks.com for some good self-help articles that work.

Good luck buddy.

-Dominant
 

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So you think he's better than you? or she was into him more than she is you?

I've got news for you - it's highly likely that she was mroe attracted to him than you. That's life.

But she didn't pick him now did she? why? because there are things that are more important that physical looks.

She's with you not him.

why? because you provide her with what she needs - he didn't.


So then, now you've lost respect for her because she fvcks this guy so soon....

Why are you looking at the negative?

You should give her some positive points for not continuing to fvck this guy when she figured out he did want a relationship.

She got out.

That is a strong woman.

She left him because she didn't want a not strings attached fvck relationship.



Look, being men, we know we can say things, do things and act a certain way - and that will get us into women's panties.

It's a fact in this day and age.

I've done it, and so have most people here.

It's not her fault if the guy made some smooth moves, told her what she wanted to here and got into her panties.

If she had continued a no strings attached fvck relationship - that would be different.

You've got to let go of the past.
 

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dude quit worrying about the little things in life. This is NOTHING. Get over it.
 

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Originally posted by NewMan
So you think he's better than you? or she was into him more than she is you?

I've got news for you - it's highly likely that she was mroe attracted to him than you. That's life.

But she didn't pick him now did she? why? because there are things that are more important that physical looks.

She's with you not him.

why? because you provide her with what she needs - he didn't.


So then, now you've lost respect for her because she fvcks this guy so soon....

Why are you looking at the negative?

You should give her some positive points for not continuing to fvck this guy when she figured out he did want a relationship.

She got out.

That is a strong woman.

She left him because she didn't want a not strings attached fvck relationship.



Look, being men, we know we can say things, do things and act a certain way - and that will get us into women's panties.

It's a fact in this day and age.

I've done it, and so have most people here.

It's not her fault if the guy made some smooth moves, told her what she wanted to here and got into her panties.

If she had continued a no strings attached fvck relationship - that would be different.

You've got to let go of the past.
Can we stop spacing sentences?

And to the original poster of this thread, don't read into what Newman has said. And don't read into what you're thinking and some other dudes are thinking. Guys are willing to give it up within 1-2 dates, don't prop yourself on the soap box and say people should have more honor. Hell, animals meet within an hour, and they're already mating. We're no different.
 

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It's just on my mind, I guess, because I know how she is about sex. I know that she finds me attractive. We had a pretty intense makeout session the first night we met. I know that distance plays a role in it too. AFter the first time we met we spoke on the phone for about a month before we were able to see each other for the first time because my job took me out of town. Then after that time I had to go away again, so we could only chat over the phone and email for about another month before I was able to go and see her. I guess the large space of time between seeing her made things kind of new when we saw each other again and she had to take time to warm up to me again each time.

Whenever we were together I really felt that she liked me. She also mentioned that soemtimes you make the person wait because you like them even more and don't want things to mess up. I'm also aware that the fact that she slept with the guy a little early on in the relationship and then things didn't work out, made her more cautious with me since she initially thought that I was a player.

Anyway, it just bugs me to think that maybe things were more hot and heavy with the other guy than they were with me or that she might have been more attracted. It was something that crossed my mind again because I know that her earlier two serious boyfriends were guys that she wasn't initially attracted to, but developed feelings for over time when they hung out more. I don't like feeling like I'm like those first guys and that she only developed attraction and it wasn't just there like with the guy she slept with after 4 or 5 dates.

Maybe it's just an ego thing since I've never had to convince a girl I dated to like me or be attracted to me and I'm just hopiong that it wasn't the case here. I just want to know that she was at least as attracted to me as she was to him and doesn't feel like she is just settling with the safe guy since I waited and was patient with her. Anway, am I way off base here? Does the level of attraction have anything to do with it or was it just the fact of trust and that she got burned before?

T.
 

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Of course level of attraction comes into it. Does it for you?


Either except her past or you are doomed to failure.
 
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