Natural Selection it is not, Female Selection Is more Like it

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Does it irk some of you,
that just because she was born with a puzzy that she can basically dictate her destiny or get whatever she wants on a platter w/o working for it..

assuming a girl is reasonably attractive and most are ( in my affluent area at least)

- suppose she was born poor, she can choose for herself to find a RICH guy. And 90 % of the time she'll get it.

- suppose she was born rich, she can choose to go and fcck for looks and get a good loooking guy for herself etc. she'll get that too. or a white guy etc.

they get so much power over selecting guy, but there is no one to say "Your abusing your power" ..they basically have a free reign on whatever they want to do from 18 to 25 as long as they good looking...

Us guys on the other hand basically we do with what we've got and maybe get a girl not as hot as we like but we only get these options to choose from..and we just select ...


"natural selection" it is not...Its FEMALE SELECTION for the MOST part ? they decide which guys will be represented in the next generation based on their own criteria...basically a guy will leave on his genes if he passes their filters of good looking, social skills, confidence, manilness and job status...so if you can't get a girl, your genes are not 'fit' to be passed on is what it is saying. ( pretty big statement for what sosuave.com stands for )
 

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Nah dude, most any guy can get a girl pretty easily, the caveat being that she isn't gonna be the pick of the litter.

And not all attractive women can get a rich guy. There's a lot more attractive women than rich guys in the world.
 

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Its true KneghtRyder, there are a LOT of very attractive women in the world. So many so in fact that maybe i shouldn't be calling them very attractive, since they are no longer so rare and prized.

The fact of the matter is that rather than women getting to pick and choose because they are beautiful, they are getting to pick and choose because WE let them. WE worship looks, so looks are in demand and considered more worthy than other traits found in people (especially men, such as manliness, authority, leadership, etc.)

Our society (western society at least) is obsessed with looks, fashion, fashionable consumption, etc. The idea is to make people completely disassociated from each other, and to reach a state where all relationships and interactions between people are completely shallow and mediated by commercialism. We are mindless consumers of things that WE DO NOT WANT OR NEED.

In a way, having a woman has become another step in this process. We do not need women, and sad as it is, a woman has come to be seen as a fashion accessory. We are cooler and more socially worthy if we have a woman than if we do not, just like if we have a nice car or house.

Classical societies did not worship female beauty, by they appreciated it. When it came down to it though, a man had more pressing priorities than women, such as defending his home, making sure that he could provide for himself and any other dependents, etc. This was a time of men being men and women being women.

I have no problem with women making a career and life for themselves. What I do have a problem with is men who worship a woman for her looks and considers her to be above him because of it. We must fight tooth and nail against this conception. There is too much at stake for us to become sissified nancy boys who are afraid of beautiful women. When we see a woman amazingly beautiful, we should feel excitement, happiness and appreciation that such beauty can exist in such an ugly world. But most of all we should feel like we deserve to hold such beauty, that such beauty is for us. No fear, no downcast eyes, no mumbling and nervousness. Only manliness.
 

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lebRambo said:
I have no problem with women making a career and life for themselves. What I do have a problem with is men who worship a woman for her looks and considers her to be above him because of it. We must fight tooth and nail against this conception. There is too much at stake for us to become sissified nancy boys who are afraid of beautiful women. When we see a woman amazingly beautiful, we should feel excitement, happiness and appreciation that such beauty can exist in such an ugly world. But most of all we should feel like we deserve to hold such beauty, that such beauty is for us. No fear, no downcast eyes, no mumbling and nervousness. Only manliness.
I see beautiful women every day as a result of my profession and this statement is true. There is no need to fear them. Just appreciate them for their beauty within. Because I've encountered Sooo many good-looking women and women on a daily basis, I can tell the facade souless makeup ones from the deep rich inner beauty ones by their reaction to me and their body language, eyes, and awareness/sophistication. In other words, I can tell a California beach gal (who's all about tanning, lotion, etc) from a ballroom, ballet dance and mansion gal within the first minute of meeting her. It's so obvious.
 

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KneghtRyder said:
Does it irk some of you,
that just because she was born with a puzzy that she can basically dictate her destiny or get whatever she wants on a platter w/o working for it..

assuming a girl is reasonably attractive and most are ( in my affluent area at least)

- suppose she was born poor, she can choose for herself to find a RICH guy. And 90 % of the time she'll get it.

- suppose she was born rich, she can choose to go and fcck for looks and get a good loooking guy for herself etc. she'll get that too. or a white guy etc.

they get so much power over selecting guy, but there is no one to say "Your abusing your power" ..they basically have a free reign on whatever they want to do from 18 to 25 as long as they good looking...

Us guys on the other hand basically we do with what we've got and maybe get a girl not as hot as we like but we only get these options to choose from..and we just select ...


"natural selection" it is not...Its FEMALE SELECTION for the MOST part ? they decide which guys will be represented in the next generation based on their own criteria...basically a guy will leave on his genes if he passes their filters of good looking, social skills, confidence, manilness and job status...so if you can't get a girl, your genes are not 'fit' to be passed on is what it is saying. ( pretty big statement for what sosuave.com stands for )
Some of this is pure nonsense. I woman's primary assumption is on your personality. It doesn't matter what your status or look is. Your falling right into social conditioning if you think so. All these AFC guys think they need to attain these things in order to get a girl when they already have the skills.

In a way yes women still choose because really a woman is just looking at your personality an she is seeing if your congruent with it. (Sh!t test) When she's seen enough of your personality she then chooses you. Why is it girls at a water park will stare at me and I don't even have a great body nor do I have the looks. It's because at the time I was in state and I was just ozzing dominance at that moment.

Why is it bums get laid? (Some are getting laid in NYC) If a guy who we would socially say has nothing to his name, why can he pull?

Your right about women able to get almost any guy because of what they have between there legs. But you have to remember the basics of this game. An if you know the basics you'll realize this post was irrelevant because yes we all know socially women think there hot stuff because guys give them validation everyday. (If you haven't seen a whole block stop to cheer on a girl like a fuking parade then you haven't seen validation)

But just keep working on conveying your personality and you can have your pick amongst the women.
 
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I don't know where you guys got "The girl chooses us" crap - this is a fallacy!! Men are the aggressors and the pursuers of women - WE select the woman who we like - they accept or decline! Women do NOT go around pursuing men - they merely make themselves available to us! If you are getting this from the DJ bible - it should be removed!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
I don't know where you guys got "The girl chooses us" crap - this is a fallacy!! Men are the aggressors and the pursuers of women - WE select the woman who we like - they accept or decline! Women do NOT go around pursuing men - they merely make themselves available to us! If you are getting this from the DJ bible - it should be removed!
I absolutely agree. Which is why i didn't even bother reading it. Flawed thread title for sure.
 

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lebRambo said:
In a way, having a woman has become another step in this process. We do not need women, and sad as it is, a woman has come to be seen as a fashion accessory. We are cooler and more socially worthy if we have a woman than if we do not, just like if we have a nice car or house.
I hate hate hate HATE when people will make a joke about me not having a girlfriend. Seems like this happens about once a week.

Today i was at a picnic and said something about not having kids and this guy cracks at me "well you'd need a girlfriend first anyway" as if that's a putdown and i'm a big loser for not having a girlfriend right now.

In the meantime these same guys are tied the fvck down and have to ask permission to do stuff and are at their below average gf/wife's beck and call.
 

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I have to disagree. It's all non-verbal in the early stages. The girl selects the guy by parading herself (e.g. putting herself on his radar so to speak). She gives the long glances (transe stares), strong eye contact, and/or other non-verbal indicators. It's your job to pick-up these cues and go for her (or not).

This is why many rejections can be avoided if you read the non-verbal signs from her early on. It's easy to tell if she is interested by her actions in this regard. If it isn't, then you do not have much experience reading girls.

It's the woman's job to build the relationship. The other way around and you are doing her role! Of course, then she ends up leaving you for some other guy.

How often do you see it last when the guy selects the girl? How often do you see it last when the girl selects the guy?

It is in a woman's nature to be desired and our male nature is to desire. She is a nuturer, you are a conquerer. Women want to be conquered, and men want to be nutured.
 

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hmmmmmmm

This could turn out to be a great discussion if it wasn't so painfully obvious that the original poster is STILL living in the "MATRIX."

When you are in the matrix, everything is backwards. You push rewind to go forward and push forward to rewind.

Everything looks different in the MATRIX, so original poster, KneightRyder....come out of the Matrix.

And have a NEW PERCEPTION ON LIFE. Your belief system and perception system of the environment around you is flawed....and if you can't see straight you can't make great judgements.

Again, I said if you can't see straight you can't make great judgements.

Fvck it, I'll say that again for others who might be in the Matrix. If you can't see straight you can't make great judgements.

What you see KneightRyder is a bunch of creatures with great bodies that you are naturally attracted to, and you see their attraction as POWER. No, their attraction is THEIR PRISION.

A woman is TRAPPED to her body and looks. Without her body and looks the woman literally has NO VALUE to a man whatsoever.

It's this power that WE HAVE OVER THEM....that make women LOOK GREAT ALL THE TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Why do you think she's in the beauty salon all time?
Why is the chick always working out?
Why does the chick always keep herself UP like that?

It's because of us KneightRyder. She understands, that if she doesn't have those looks she has no value.

So when you talk about NATURAL SELECTION......break it down like this pal.
 

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Number One: YOU ARE ALREADY SELECTED. You know why? Because before she did anything for herself this morning, she fixed her azz up FOR YOU. For us, for the penis! You might say, well us guys fix ourselves up too! True, but guys outside the matrix fix themselves up BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO LOOK GREAT just for the hell out of. Guys inside the matrix think that by fixing themselves up, working out, etc....this is improve their looks thus improve their woman count...to these guys I say again, COME OUT OF THE MATRIX, when you are in the MATRIX everything is backwards. It's the women that need great looks not us!!

Number Two: Like some other posters have said.......women are now a dime a dozen, and a true and genunie MAN has become rare. I said before.....it's the SEXUAL GUYS that fvck all the women. Why? Because going back to NATURAL SELECTION, it works like this:

God/Nature>>>SEXUALITY>>> Masculinity>>>> Feminity>>>> Evolution

God or Nature uses Sexuality to BRING THE MASCULINE AND FEMINE TOGETHER to create Evolution.

Which means KneightRyder if you are following me, that the male and the female that embraces their NATURAL SEXUALITY, will NOT have a problem projecting VALUE to the opposite sex.

So going back to what I said earlier.....

A woman's value is her looks, so she embraces her sexuality by looking Great! The better she looks, the more value she has.

A man's value is his sexual power, so he embraces his sexuality by loving sex as a whole, being a naturally sexual person, and as I like to say, "adding sexuality to his personality." He's a subtle, seductive, BUT NATURAL person. The more naturally sexual he is, the more value he has.

The result?

The fine looking women will be with all the SEXUAL men!

Now here is where guys in the MATRIX get confused. Because now you will see the same thing on the woman side, she has a great body, nice hair, nice face, nice azz, etc.

But you will see all types of shyt on the man side!

You will see a fat guy, you will see a nice guy, you will see a gay guy, you will see a jerk, you will see a rich guy, you will see a poor guy, you will see a comedian, you see a guy with a great body, you see a guy without a great body, you see a extroverted guy, you see an introverted guy, you see a guy that walks in the club leans on the wall and gets all the attention from women, you see a guy that runs on the dance floor like a wild man and gets all the attention from women, and it goes on and on.....

You will NEVER see ONE TYPE of guy get laid, you will see ALL TYPES! But it's usually only the women with great looks that will be desired by men, again....nice azz, nice breasts, pretty face, could be black, white, red, whatever, still the same fvcking VALUE(nice azz, nice tits, pretty face)

The Male Sexuality is NOT TIED TO LOOKS, it's tied to embracing your inner sexual power.

The Female Sexuality IS TIED TO LOOKS! It's about embracing your outer sexual power, i.e., your breasts, your thighs, your pretty face, your thighs, etc.

Hope this clears the path for you, and takes you out of the MATRIX!!

- DonJuanForever
 

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Good post John.

In terms of natural selection, it is about weeding out the weak so only the strong are left to carry on the gene pool.

So true much longer ago, but as things become more civilized, and people are protected from their own mishaps, the weak are no longer weeded out but left to mate and pro-create! Some believe we are breeding towards stupidity (a process called Eugenics) and sometimes this does not seem far from the truth.

Early on, the Males had to fight and compete for sex with the Female. Only the strongest (and often smartest) Male was able to mate and pro-create with the 'Alpha' Female.

In today's world, natural selection is not at work as it was in the past. Many women are making choices not based on the strongest and the fittest, but more aligned with social venues and what the perceived values of their peers are through social conditioning via media.

Nonetheless, a *real* tride-and-true Female will quickly recognize their masculine Male counterpart.

It is true many younger women want to instinctively pro-create with a more 'manly' Male during their peak ovulation (usually the third week of the month). A more 'baby' faced Male is ideal for retention and child rearing as he will not be in high-demand during peak ovulation. In other words, he'll be around to rear children and thus won't be off having sex with numerous women. This is why women will often have ONSs with the more 'manly' Male and LTRs with the less masculine Male.
 

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Well there is such a thing as "female selection" in all higher mammals as well as in humans, as every behavioral biologist will tell you. tmpgstx already described it´s behavioral consequences.

It takes places at the very first stages, in the first seconds or even miliseconds, f.i. already when a guy enters a room, the female will size him up and immediately make a decision "yes", "no" or "maybe".

If "no", you usually won´t even get near her, women are masters at this, at the "game of availability". If "yes" or "maybe", she will give you the possibility to chase her, lay game on her. But usually the very first choice is made by the female.

We of course can override it, 3-seconds-rule and all, but this is a basical biological given that most guys don´t know about and don´t want to know about. Biology...
 
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Rudra said:
Well there is such a thing as "female selection" in all higher mammals as well as in humans, as every behavioral biologist will tell you. It takes places at the very first stages, in the first seconds or even miliseconds, f.i. already when a guy enters a room, the female will size him up and immediately make a decision "yes", "no" or "maybe". If "no", you usually won´t even get near her, women are masters at this, at the "game of availability". If "yes" or "maybe", she will give you the possibility to chase her, lay game on her. But usually the very first choice is made by the female.

We of course can override it, 3-seconds-rule and all, but this is a basical biological given that most guys don´t know about and don´t want to know about. Biology...
Then again, guys pretty much know within a millisecond whether or not they would sleep with a women. The decision is just as much the man's as it is the woman's. It's just a much longer process with the woman.
 

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Then again, guys pretty much know within a millisecond whether or not they would sleep with a woman.
I hear you, but for guys the answer in 90% of cases is OH YES I WOULD..... For chicks the percentage is way way lower of course.
 

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Men are like Microwaves and Women are like Crock-Pots. One heats up much faster than the other.

The woman has much greater investement in who she chooses, therefore her selection should be much more weighted with special criteria in meeting these conditions. It is her sexual strategy to retain a guy for child-rearing. A guy's strategy is to blow as many a load into as many gals as possible. Very different strategies. One is long-term and one is short-term.

So what happens when a woman is practicing a guy's sexual strategy? She is one lost little Puppy looking to literally and figuratively fill an empty void.
 

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Rudra said:
I hear you, but for guys the answer in 90% of cases is OH YES I WOULD..... For chicks the percentage is way way lower of course.
Are you sh1ttin me? I don't even give 95% of girls out there a second look.
 

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Pretty much and they know it.

Unless the chic is fat,ugly,bad hygene/cleaning skills,is a massive locally known b1tch or slut,or has kids..she has the power..
 
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Tha Realnezz said:
Pretty much and they know it.

Unless the chic is fat,ugly,bad hygene/cleaning skills,is a massive locally known b1tch or slut,or has kids..she has the power..
Hahaha,use just described the entire female US population! :D
 

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That's not true man...
 
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