My workout - One set to failure.

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Hey guys!

I haven't posted on this board much but I thought I would today just to report some of the recent successes I've had with my workout.

I've been weight training on and off for about 10 years and have had limited results with it. My workouts were done with freeweights and it seemed that no matter how hard or how much I trained or how much I ate or what supplements I was using I just couldn't get great results. I wasn't skinny or anything but never really felt like I was reaching my potential.

This past year I purchased a Powertec Leverage System which you can view here. If you've never seen or heard anything about these gyms then I suggest you do a google search on them. They are basically designed for a guy who wants to lift HEAVY without the need of a spotter. Now most of you serious lifters are going to say "It's not freeweights its crap!" Which is exactly what I thought when I first saw it.

However I bought the thing anyway. (Mine is a bit different than the one in the picture.) The training guide which comes with the machine is basically a "One set to failure" workout which I had reservations about as well. I decided to do a google search on one set to failure workouts and I couldn't believe all the debates and different feelings that people have.

There is a whole mindset of people who believe that one set to failure is all you need for each exercise. Then there is the opposition who claim that training in that way won't produce results and will cause injury or overtraining. I read thru all the arguments I could find and was quite surprised at how strongly people felt about their views on training.

I decided to seek some advice from people I respected. Player Supreme who used to frequent these boards (is actually a personal trainer) and spoke of training in this way in the past. I asked him his opinions on one set to failure training and he told me the best way to figure it out is to try it for yourself. So that's what I did.

The workout starts with one warm up set. For upper body I did bench press and performed 20 reps with a medium weight. For lower body I would warm up with Squats. This gets the blood flowing. From there you blast into the workout.

Work out #1 Upper body:

Bench press
Shrugs
Shoulder press
Tricep pulldown
Lat pulldown
Seated row
Barbell curl

Workout #2 Lower body:

Squats
Ham curls
Toe press
Ab workout

That's the workout that comes with the machine. They suggest you workout 2-3 times per week for 15-20 minutes! This seemed totally absurd to me at first. Anyway I would alternate each week. Monday - Upper Wed - Lower Friday - Upper then the next week would be Monday - Lower Wed - Upper and Friday - lower.

For exercises like Bench press and Squats which work multiple muscles I would choose a weight heavy enough that I would reach the failure point around the 12-15 rep mark. For exercises that are more isolated ie. barbell curls I would choose a weight that I would reach failure around the 8-12 rep mark.

Each rep would be performed in a slow fashion. 8 seconds per rep.

I wouldn't take any breaks between exercises. Just long enough to set up the next exercise. My workouts would last around 20 minutes and right from the get go I was thinking "Man that wasn't enough!" However the next day I wasn't thinking that.

I would keep records of my reps to failure and if I ever made it to the 15 rep mark (or the 12 rep mark) then I would up the weight for my next workout. I constantly pushed my self to try and improve each week.


Now to the pros and cons. I heard that training this way would lead to injury because it forces you to lift too heavy without properly warming up. I think there is a misconception about how heavy you have to lift for this type of workout. When you are performing reps super slow (8 seconds) then you don't need as much weight to reach failure in 12-15 reps. From my experiences I haven't once pulled anything or overstrained myself. As far as overtraining goes the argument seems to be that if you are lifting this heavy and to failure all the time then you will overtrain. What I have found though is that I always finish my workouts feeling like I have more to give. In fact when I was volume training I found I was more apt to overtrain. Performing more sets also had a negative effect on many of my joints.

Think about it. If you make training part of your life and you plan on volume training for the next ten years think of how many more repetitions of each exercise you will be doing. Repetitive motions are terrible for you body and joints.

As far as results go. I've been doing this for about 10 months now (also eating like a madman) and I've seen the best results I've ever had. I'm getting compliments from everyone, everywhere I go. I simply can't believe that my muscles are growing like this with so little time devoted to training. A good friend of mine is a total gym rat and has been steadily working out for 10 years. I've always thought of him as having a great physique. He's not huge but he is big and ripped. In just ten months I now have a physique that is almost comparable to his. He's even asked me more than once what workout I'm doing, what supplements I'm taking, how much I'm working out, etc. It's quite a compliment coming from him.

Now just to let you all know I am not a "serious" lifter. I have no desire to be huge or spend hours and hours in the gym working on my body. It's just not my thing. I do however want to be muscular and look my best. This workout and the Powertec gym have allowed me to do this with seemingly minimal effort. Don't get me wrong the workouts ARE tough. Especially squats. They are a killer. You really have to push yourself. However when I think of the amount of time my buddies spend working out it makes me laugh. One set to failure workout for 20 minutes, 2-3 times per week has me the strongest and biggest I've ever been.

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man... if i did one set of bench/deads/squats like that w/ only one warmup set, i would kill myself.
 

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None of this surprises me. It's a very effective way to train, and I train many of my clients this way.

Glad you found some success finally mate.
 

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Originally posted by semag
man... if i did one set of bench/deads/squats like that w/ only one warmup set, i would kill myself.
Yes that's exactly what I thought.

It was the first time I had ever performed repetitions with an 8 second count though. What I found was the amount of weight I needed to bring myself to failure in 8-15 reps was actually quite manageable.

Doing repetitions with a "normal" pace though would force me to lift much heavier weight to get to that failure point in that few repetitions. Yes I would probably kill myself too. :)
 

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you're doin a 6-7 second negative and an explosive positive rep right?
 

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Originally posted by MetalFortress
"They are basically designed for a guy who wants to lift HEAVY without the need of a spotter"

Why do you think the power rack was invented?

Anyways, what is your before and after weight, and if you have it, bodyfat percentage?
Yes power racks are great. I'm not arguing that.

I've put on approx 12-15 lbs in the last ten months. Like I said I'm not a serious bodybuilder or anything so my body fat % is a mystery to me. I'm a lanky guy by nature and since I've been trying to bulk up I have noticed a little extra roll around the waist when I hunch over. :) I'm definitely on the lean side though.

I just found it quite interesting to find how passionate (and maybe stubborn) some people get when it comes to training methods.

I just wanted to post what I have been trying and what has been working well for me. I am by no means preaching that this is "the way" or the Powertec system is the best. Its working well for me at the moment and the short workouts are keeping me interested. My busy schedule doesn't leave me a lot of time for training and this method is keeping me going.

Thanks for the response.
 

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Originally posted by semag
you're doin a 6-7 second negative and an explosive positive rep right?
Actually when I started I was doing 4 seconds neg and 4 seconds postive like the training guide recommended.

I have been switching it up lately though (every second workout) and doing 6 second negative and then like you say an explosive positive.
 

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cool... from my research and experience, the explosive positive is waay more practical.

you should try a DC style "one set to failure" sometime.. otherwise known as rest pause...

Pick a weight you can get for ~ 8... go to failure
take 15 or so deep breaths (20-30 sec rest)
pump out as many as you can get... usually 3-4
15 breaths
as many as you can get (1-2)

8+4+2 = 14 reps total... total time... eh, about a minute and a half.
 

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Nice post, Slickster.

Very appropriate.

And yes, bbers are very dogmatic. To most, belief in their training principles is what enables them to press on while eating crappy diets, high protein, or going to the gym when it's snowing/raining.

Overthinking is a problem, too. I've been one to accumulate and buy tons of programs, or copy some from bodybuilding.com, but the 1 thing I always found consistent which troubled me was the science was always the same.

High volume. Lots of sets. Medium reps (8-12). Sure that's the sweet spot, but with so many exercises to do and so many sets, no wonder few people ACTUALLY reach their goals. A whole helluva lot of people START, but few stick with it long-term. And to me, it's more beneficial to get in the habit of doing it slightly wrong for a while, than not doing it at all.

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I roundabout found DC's style of training. I've done static contraction, too. I used to eat small meals, like chicken and vegetables and salads, but my energy levels would wain daily. Now, I give no regard to that. Instead, my focus is totally on getting as much as muscle on me now, and then refocusing to shave it off come March.

Alot of guys wallow in the middle too afraid to get a big chubby, and leave alot of strength and size out, too. You might have to accept some chub for a little bit, but take the same inverse intensity and use that to drop fat when the time comes.

It's difficult, IMO, to switch between 2 opposing goals. To me, it should be size will minimizing fat. You do that but keeping out pizza and burgers as the main part of your diet, and instead eating tons of veggies, eggs, protein powder, fish, wheats, potatoes, etc.

If your goal is to lift as much as possible which will give you the most muscle as possible, you have to have energy, and avoiding carbs is not only tasteless but boring and unhealthy. Control them, but don't limit them.

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The explosive 1 rep concentric + the 8-10 second negative is very, very good. My weights are getting as high as they ever have and are controlled, not only avoiding injury, but you're not jostling heavy weights around like many do in the gym.

And alot of exercises are not as easy to feel if you're not controlling the weight, and if you're not feeling it, it's not working. That's how you know you've reached your max failure weight.

How are some guys switching up the programs?

Not sure if I'll take a 2 week break and just lift 1/1 ecc/con, or stick with 1/10 ecc/con. Going 1/10 doesn't mean you have to go light. In fact, you do nearly as much, just with more control and explosiveness. Throwing weights around doesn't work, but time under stress and forced loading does.

Anyone who hasn't gone that route should give it a 6 week try. You will notice strength gains, and some size gains as well. I have easily. Plus, if you have no spotter, going this route is easier IMO, since you don't worry about jacking the bar and throwing it around as you would with 1/1's.

Good post Slickster, keep up the progress,



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yeah A-unit.

I seriously believe anyone who hasn't given low volume a try because "there's no way you can do enough work on that" is really deluding themself.

a simple workout of about 4-5 exercises and 5-6 or so total work sets can really destroy you.. none of this pansy shyt where you go in and do 8-10 exercises that end up hitting like 25-30 worksets...
 

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Precisely, semag.

I worked out with an Ex-marine and a friend who owned a supplement shop, and both would note how on high vol. I barely was able to sweat, mostly because of intensity.

If you go intense on lots of exercises, there's no steam left for future exercises or sets.

And if you don't go hard and heavy, then you don't grow. So the high sets might work if you're into 'fitness', whatever that is, but I don't think it works toward a specific goal. Normally we're training for SOMETHING. Be it size/strength, agility/stamina, cardiovascular gains, or fat loss/weight reduction. Even women, who generally aimlessly go the gym, have a goal, but they normally don't align the goal with the process to get there.

I sweat much more, am sore, get the pump, all that psychological surface junk guys like, but most importantly you grow. And I believe it works in tandum with how muscles work, too.

Plus, as DC demonstrated, you do 15 reps as a target for say DB bench presses, and you shoot for 8 reps on failure. Then you try to bang out 5 or 6 more, and again 2-4 more, all the while I do 10 sec negatives and explosive concentric moves. The whole time doing those, you control the weight, so the duration of the exercise you're under stress, NOT just while lifting.

And if you're at 14 or 15, you know next workout for that exercise, you go bigger and shoot once again for that rep range. It's a better target to me than I was traditionally introduced to. Alot of PWL'ers lift that way. Low reps, higher weight, controlled motion. They get more creative than gym rats @ a fitness club, incorporating weight bands and chains, as well as blocks, and milk crates.

That's just me, and hopefully people see Slickster's post and semag's replys and think outside the traditional box of multiple exercises for each bodypart during each workout with multiple sets and reps.



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Semag and A-Unit

Thanks guys for the responses.

Good information. I'm going to do a search on DC style. (that's Dogg Crap) right? :)
 

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Re: Semag and A-Unit

Originally posted by Slickster
Thanks guys for the responses.

Good information. I'm going to do a search on DC style. (that's Dogg Crap) right? :)
Check out this DC guide: http://dc-training.blogspot.com . DC training kicks ass. At the moment I'm too broke to buy huge amounts of food and I'm also sick (thus postponing my workouts) but I love it.

EDIT: whoops, Lifeforce beat me to it :p
 
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