Nightspark
Senior Don Juan
I have been on this forum for a short period of time, but I have read its material for quite sometime now (Since March 2003) and have followed it pretty well, which is how I achieved my first love. Well anyways that’s gone to what we call stand-by mode and it’s a story for some other day, but it’s this situation and MOTU’s post on his thoughts on seduction [ http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29081 ] that has made me realise that there’s more to DJism than just following the Bible, that true DJs create their own Bible.
First point I’d like to make is that we really ought to stop taking things so literally and seriously. That's why it's hard for me even to understand that the DJ Bible says one thing and we have people posting here on the forums something totally opposite. Some might say that the DJ concept is bullsh!t as it keeps on contradicting it self with the Bible and what people post. It brings the idea that these Experienced DJs create their own version of the DJ Bible and that the one located on Sosuave.com is, nevertheless useful in the beginning of the path to becoming a DJ, but unfortunately gets to a point where what it preaches becomes somewhat controversial and begins to lose its lustre. It's almost as if the Bible is designed with faults on purpose and only a true DJ has the experiance and the knowledge to actually find it's faults and that's why there is this contradiction. DJism is about developing ones self into a better person, realistically it's not the aim of getting the most women (I'm not sure who has said this but it's been emphasised quite a few times).
Maybe I haven’t been here long enough to get the full picture, but I have been here quite sometime to see that the DJ Bible is something that GUIDES you and that it should never be treated as a rule book! THAT point has to be made very clear that the DJ Bible IS NOT a set of rules that you must follow! I think there are too many people out there following the DJ Bible to an extent that they refuse to grow and create their own rules, leading them to insecurity. Yes, the reality is that if you follow something and refuse to change or challenge it, you are insecure. Surely you will come across people in your life that say something along the lines of “Why change something if it’s this good?” even my Ex said that when she broke up with me (long story) and do you know what I said to her? “IF we change this, it can turn out to be something better than what it is right now, and if we leave it, we can never experience the full potential of things” she replied by saying that there’s a chance that it might fvck up. Life is all about risk, change and the growth that results from these things, if people did not take risks, we would all not be here! SIMPLE! But the point is that you can not go about your life following the DJ Bible and expect it to work 100% of the time. You can try it but you know in your mind you’ll end up changing a few things, even sub-consciously you probably will.
Ok what am I trying to say? I’m practically telling you that if you find something is not right about anything, question it’s integrity to a point where you realise what it’s trying to say, or you actually manage to change it.
On MOTU’s post The Dominated1 made a comment that Newbies and Experienced members will get a different meaning out of the post. It reinforces the idea that in the end we will all find our own methods, our own thoughts, our own everything in ways of trying to attract, date and marry in the end. I don’t know who said it but I know my Ex-GF did, that "Some rules are meant to be broken", and being the person that I’ am, believing that everything happens for a reason and we learn from the people we meet along our life, that the statement, as childish as it sounds, is true. Rules are meant to be broken, or else we'll never grow and be insecure forever! That's why Newbs and Expies (Experienced People) see differently, and I believe Newbs take the DJ Bible too, too seriously, which in perspective is a good thing, but it becomes a worry if they do not start questioning its integrity after some time and use it to develop their own DJ Bible. Remember it's not just the Bible, it's everything associated in becoming a DJ.
The idea of playing games with chicks (Waiting 3-5 days to call, acting mysterious, phone call - text message evasion, etc.) just to get them attracted to you, in my opinion is childish. However it is a known fact that to communicate to a child, we act like one, and well these childish games work, only on childish chicks. That's my thought on everything; The DJ Bible to me now seems like a childish tool to attract those types of girls who act in the same way. And why the hell would you bother with a childish girl? Trust me they are bad news, especially if you could never talk to them in an intimate level or a serious one for that matter. At this point, people will tell you that you’re wasting time with that girl, which comes to another point that some people need to learn from their experiences. Some people learn quickly, others take a very long time to learn. Everyone must learn from their mistakes and experiences at their own pace. Don’t attempt to force any school of thought on someone who is not willing to listen. This I have experienced at first hand, where I was trying to get my friend to open up and try to ask this chick out he has had his eye on. His response was that he’ll ask when the timing is right; he also said he’d get into the dating game at his own pace. As frustrating as it was seeing his chances diminish, I learnt that he will finally get the guts one day to actually do something about his low confidence. I gave him the attitude he required, it was up to him to use it as a guide and act upon it. Sadly the chance went.
So what have I been rambling on about? Well, after reading the DJ Bible for sometime now, reading some forum posts and piecing things together from my personal experiences and those from people I know, that A true DJ creates his own paths based on his own experiences. A DJ does not need to follow written guidelines or anything the like as they know what they are doing. Pook said it best: A Don Juan is a state of mind, not a list of methods and tricks, which makes me wonder why we have so many methods posted on this board to help people. Either we are losing touch, or that statement is false, or perhaps there’s more to it that it means. Nevertheless it just proves my point that in order for us to ascend into a higher level of DJism or maturity (in general context), we must change our views and thoughts about what we have ran with in the past. We find faults in ourselves and improve upon.
In the end, there are no set rules or set guidelines. You make them up and that a True DJ makes his own path.
First point I’d like to make is that we really ought to stop taking things so literally and seriously. That's why it's hard for me even to understand that the DJ Bible says one thing and we have people posting here on the forums something totally opposite. Some might say that the DJ concept is bullsh!t as it keeps on contradicting it self with the Bible and what people post. It brings the idea that these Experienced DJs create their own version of the DJ Bible and that the one located on Sosuave.com is, nevertheless useful in the beginning of the path to becoming a DJ, but unfortunately gets to a point where what it preaches becomes somewhat controversial and begins to lose its lustre. It's almost as if the Bible is designed with faults on purpose and only a true DJ has the experiance and the knowledge to actually find it's faults and that's why there is this contradiction. DJism is about developing ones self into a better person, realistically it's not the aim of getting the most women (I'm not sure who has said this but it's been emphasised quite a few times).
Maybe I haven’t been here long enough to get the full picture, but I have been here quite sometime to see that the DJ Bible is something that GUIDES you and that it should never be treated as a rule book! THAT point has to be made very clear that the DJ Bible IS NOT a set of rules that you must follow! I think there are too many people out there following the DJ Bible to an extent that they refuse to grow and create their own rules, leading them to insecurity. Yes, the reality is that if you follow something and refuse to change or challenge it, you are insecure. Surely you will come across people in your life that say something along the lines of “Why change something if it’s this good?” even my Ex said that when she broke up with me (long story) and do you know what I said to her? “IF we change this, it can turn out to be something better than what it is right now, and if we leave it, we can never experience the full potential of things” she replied by saying that there’s a chance that it might fvck up. Life is all about risk, change and the growth that results from these things, if people did not take risks, we would all not be here! SIMPLE! But the point is that you can not go about your life following the DJ Bible and expect it to work 100% of the time. You can try it but you know in your mind you’ll end up changing a few things, even sub-consciously you probably will.
Ok what am I trying to say? I’m practically telling you that if you find something is not right about anything, question it’s integrity to a point where you realise what it’s trying to say, or you actually manage to change it.
On MOTU’s post The Dominated1 made a comment that Newbies and Experienced members will get a different meaning out of the post. It reinforces the idea that in the end we will all find our own methods, our own thoughts, our own everything in ways of trying to attract, date and marry in the end. I don’t know who said it but I know my Ex-GF did, that "Some rules are meant to be broken", and being the person that I’ am, believing that everything happens for a reason and we learn from the people we meet along our life, that the statement, as childish as it sounds, is true. Rules are meant to be broken, or else we'll never grow and be insecure forever! That's why Newbs and Expies (Experienced People) see differently, and I believe Newbs take the DJ Bible too, too seriously, which in perspective is a good thing, but it becomes a worry if they do not start questioning its integrity after some time and use it to develop their own DJ Bible. Remember it's not just the Bible, it's everything associated in becoming a DJ.
The idea of playing games with chicks (Waiting 3-5 days to call, acting mysterious, phone call - text message evasion, etc.) just to get them attracted to you, in my opinion is childish. However it is a known fact that to communicate to a child, we act like one, and well these childish games work, only on childish chicks. That's my thought on everything; The DJ Bible to me now seems like a childish tool to attract those types of girls who act in the same way. And why the hell would you bother with a childish girl? Trust me they are bad news, especially if you could never talk to them in an intimate level or a serious one for that matter. At this point, people will tell you that you’re wasting time with that girl, which comes to another point that some people need to learn from their experiences. Some people learn quickly, others take a very long time to learn. Everyone must learn from their mistakes and experiences at their own pace. Don’t attempt to force any school of thought on someone who is not willing to listen. This I have experienced at first hand, where I was trying to get my friend to open up and try to ask this chick out he has had his eye on. His response was that he’ll ask when the timing is right; he also said he’d get into the dating game at his own pace. As frustrating as it was seeing his chances diminish, I learnt that he will finally get the guts one day to actually do something about his low confidence. I gave him the attitude he required, it was up to him to use it as a guide and act upon it. Sadly the chance went.
So what have I been rambling on about? Well, after reading the DJ Bible for sometime now, reading some forum posts and piecing things together from my personal experiences and those from people I know, that A true DJ creates his own paths based on his own experiences. A DJ does not need to follow written guidelines or anything the like as they know what they are doing. Pook said it best: A Don Juan is a state of mind, not a list of methods and tricks, which makes me wonder why we have so many methods posted on this board to help people. Either we are losing touch, or that statement is false, or perhaps there’s more to it that it means. Nevertheless it just proves my point that in order for us to ascend into a higher level of DJism or maturity (in general context), we must change our views and thoughts about what we have ran with in the past. We find faults in ourselves and improve upon.
In the end, there are no set rules or set guidelines. You make them up and that a True DJ makes his own path.
... Haha I am kidding with you there, night. Anyways, what you have posted was wonderful and it might help the people who want to know more than what these guys write. I give this five-stars.